Obama nears win amid signs Clinton may admit loss

Tuesday 03rd June, 07:20 AM JST

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Sarge at 12:04 AM JST - 4th June

"I imagine they'll pull it together to beat McCain"

I imagine they won't.
RomeoRamenII at 12:10 AM JST - 4th June

... their delegate system is ridiculous and has definitely hurt them here

Indeed it has. It should be a winner-take-all by popular vote system. But the democrats based it on a form of proportional representation to calculate how many delegates a candidate gets.

Still, I don't understand how obama, who voluntarily withdrew his name from consideration in Michigan, still wound up getting 59 delegates from that state this past weekend.

RR
Madverts at 12:14 AM JST - 4th June

Ramen,

Would you support a winner-take-all by popular vote system for the GE?
Sarge at 12:17 AM JST - 4th June

Madverts - You're right. I'm secretly ( well, not secretly any more! ) rooting for Obama because I want my country to disarm in the hope that all the terrorists we created will have mercy on us.
Sarge at 12:20 AM JST - 4th June

"winner-take-all by popular vote system"

What! And ditch our beloved Electoral College system which saved us from Al Gore? Never!
Madverts at 12:28 AM JST - 4th June

"rooting for Obama because I want my country to disarm in the hope that all the terrorists we created will have mercy on us."

I don't think Obama, when elected, intends to disarm the US. He is simply suggesting a different approach to the so-called war on terror, because as we know, the current aproach has made matters infinitely worse.

Another reason to support the guy!
RomeoRamenII at 12:30 AM JST - 4th June

verts,

The electoral college method does allow less populated states from being overrun by the more populated ones.

Popular vote is a bit trickier because of absentee ballot and voter fraud issues. That written, I would advocate that a candidate pull in at least 51 persent of the popular in order to be declared the winner. Under my system however, bill clinton would have never been elected (or re-elected) president since he never received more than 50 percent in either '92 or 96.

RR
RomeoRamenII at 12:40 AM JST - 4th June

verts,

But obama's Chamberlin approach of talking to Muslim leaders who only understand the working end of an AK-47 or a bomb is not the answer.

RR
Madverts at 12:57 AM JST - 4th June

Ramen,

"But obama's Chamberlin approach of talking to Muslim leaders who only understand the working end of an AK-47 or a bomb is not the answer."

Well, the current approach has failed too. It's even exsaperated the situation as far as I can see.

Senator Obama isn't suggesting appeasment - he's simply talked about opening dialogue, notably with the Iranaians - which seems like a sensible course of action.
DanManjt at 05:05 AM JST - 4th June

According to an AP bulletin I just heard on the radio, Obama now has passed the magic number.
Nessie at 03:55 PM JST - 4th June

According to an AP bulletin I just heard on the radio, Obama now has passed the magic number.

Dan, absurd! He's been 18 for years now. Oh...the other　magic number.
Nessie at 04:15 PM JST - 4th June

And most of her detail is composed of people of color. Need I say more?

Red with rage and green with envy don't count.
Zaphod at 05:03 PM JST - 4th June

Remember how "popular vote" was the big slogan among the democrats 8 years ago and then again 4 yours ago?

Suddenly, the "popular vote" does not mean anything any more. Strange how opinions change :-)
Himajin at 07:56 PM JST - 5th June

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Imagine if a Republican or even a Libertarian candidate had written, as Obama has , that he or she "found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

Did you read the entire passage that quote came from, or just the truncated email version?
Himajin at 08:57 PM JST - 5th June

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

Here's the debunking of the Obama email.