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SushiSake3
"Obama, Putin meet at last, exchange pleasantries"
Cue the Extreme Right to explode in anger for.......something.
Maybe because they think Obama went to Moscow to "apologize" (can't have US presidents doing that - that's not Extremist enough!)
or something......
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Altria
Putin is the man. There's videos on the web of him shooting a tiger, throwing guys on the judo mat, coming into America's airspace. Now that our main defense against Putin (Sarah Palin) is gone, the US doesn't stand a chance.
Obama had better do some groveling.
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smithinjapan
Sushi: You beat me to it! The Rightists must be just seething with rage over SOMETHING related to this. I guess it's the fact that, again, Obama has to clean up after the last president and improve relations, and Republicans would usually rather just be angry and in danger/fear, than have to suck it up and admit they were wrong all along. Fortunately, Obama can do that for them, and make them safer.
I am glad that he and Putin seemed to hit it off so far. Here's hoping they continue. You never know, maybe they can even make the world a safer place -- along the lines of where things were before the last guy (in the US).
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Triumvere
They once had one of those hypotheticals where they asked: "if you could punch anyone in the face and get away with it - with absolutely no consequences at all - who would you punch?" Of course, half the repsondants said "Bush", and there was the usual list of dictators and tough guys. Then one guy said 'Putin' and I just thought: "damn, even if God guarenteed it to me personally, I don't think I would have the balls." Putin is one scary SOB.
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skipthesong
Putin is one scary SOB." why?
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Triumvere
Dude, have you ever looked into his eyes? shivers
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skipthesong
Trium, Sorry, its just so hard to take a guy who looks like him as scary.
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Triumvere
Say that to his face! He'll judo your ass.
Seriously though, they eyes, man: Ice.
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Triumvere
argg. that should be a "the"
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VOR
Obama appears very weak and completely outclassed by Putin and Medvedez.
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smithinjapan
"Obama appears very weak and completely outclassed by Putin and Medvedez."
HAHAhaha! This from a guy who supported what looked like and WAS a monkey next to Putin (mentally, anyway). And Putin was bang on, the former president was nothing but a dimwit. Obama is there to repair the brainfart the US had before him, and it's about time, too. Finally the US has someone who can debate with Putin.
But as has been said, looks like a bunch of sore losers on here can only whine about the fact that Obama and Putin want to make the world a BETTER place, with less nukes. That takes strength. Weakness would be to run away, hide, and build more as a 'deterrent'. Amazing what some will find to complain about -- god forbid their children should live in a safer world. Fortunately, their current president is smarter than said children's parents (the complainers, since I probably have to spell that out).
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JoeBigs
Ah yes as usual the far right would rather support another nations leader than our own. How real American.......
Too bad the far right does not understand diplomacy. After 8 years of none I understand they do not understand what it means.....LOL
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zurcronium
Bush and Putin: Best of friends
I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul George W Bush
At the end of their first summit meeting in Slovenia Mr Bush described Mr Putin as a straightforward and trustworthy man.
The Russian leader said he regarded the US as a partner.
"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.
"I was able to get a sense of his soul.
Yeah, and the Bush never met Putin again. What a dope. Obama in one meeting does more than bush did in 8 years for the security of the USA.
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VOR
Putin lecturing Obama on the cold war for an hour reveals just how unprepared and wet behind the ears our young president is when it comes to representing America on the world stage. Pitiful to all those observing except of course the cult of Obama.
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smithinjapan
VOR: "Putin lecturing Obama on the cold war for an hour reveals just how unprepared and wet behind the ears our young president is when it comes to representing America on the world stage."
'Lecturing', huh? The only one really being schooled here is you, albeit you're more a student like the drunk frat boy former president you had who learned nothing, it seems. There's a BIG difference between talking/telling stories about the Cold War and 'lecturing'. The funniest part is how you admit that even a young, 'inexperienced' president has done more for your country than a 'seasoned' man like the dolt who was in office previous to him.
Good on Obama, and good on Putin. Finally the two countries can progress towards some worthwhile goals instead of having a moronic US government intent of keeping up some outdated game of cloak-and-dagger and making the world less safe to live in.
But hey, a number of fools will do their utmost to find fault with solid, sound logic and change for the better, as they are simply fools.
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VOR
face it smith, your beloved Obama was taken to the woodshed by a more experienced politician today.
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JohnBecker
VOR, unless you were in the room with them, I don't see how you can have any idea of what was discussed. Why do you assume that Obama was "taken to the woodshed"?
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yabits
After a dozen lines of meta-talk and nothing of subtance to add, I get the feeling that the prissy scold is lives in one heckuva glass house.
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adaydream
SuperLib, you may not remember, but the republicans on JT hawked at Clinton for the first two years out of office, all the while watching george bush take us into a needless war in Iraq. Always crying about his little tryst with what's her face.
george bush is the most recent president to compare this president to for some posters. Some posters may not even remember earlier presidents or were involved in political thinking before Clinton or bush.
I don't seem to remember anything that george bush did in respect to reducing nuclear weapons. Nothing. Help me here VOR. SuperLib can you help VOR here?
I do remember him trying to build bunker busters and mini nukes.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5805098 And Israel loves them
Barack Obama is attempting to reduce the threat of nuclear arms. He's attempting to reduce the threat everywhere. And these conversations have already gotten an agreement for this year alone. There's still 3 and maybe 7 more years that Obama can work on this effort. < :-)
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DickMorris
Well done Obama exchanging smiles with the Hitler of the East. Putin is pure evil. Bush saw the devil in his eyes!!!
Putin and hus puppets have managed to persude the appeaser to reduce are detterent to a minimum allowing us open to an attack by the next BIn Laden or Saddam. This meeting makes patriotic Americans like myself sick!!! Putin was a pariah and deserves to stay a pariah , the evil one.
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adaydream
DickMorris explain where we are open to an attack. The US and Russia have 95% of the world's nukes. We're reducing some by the end of the year, but we're far from open to an attack.
Besides Sean Hannity, Larua Ingram and Glenn Beck (who have no creditability) who says we're open to an attack by anyone? By the way, who is going to attack us? Who is going to come over to our side of the big pond and attack us where we wouldn't be safe from a nuclear attack? < :-)
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DickMorris
adaydream: I well known to the moral patriotic posters as the voice of reason and moderation. I will not support a president only elected due to media lies, who i spleasent to the ebil Putin.
Respomd if you can, i doubt it buddy.
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JoeBigs
DickMorris I think you put your own spin on the famous Bush quote,"I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul" because what President Bush saw was a bit different.
Now to straighten what President Bush saw let us go to the source and not anyone else.....
In Presidents Bush's own words;
"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.
"I was able to get a sense of his soul.
"He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship," Mr Bush said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1392791.stm
I did not see anywhere where Bush said he was Hitler or evil. Maybe I do not have my far right wing decoder ring.
Again before the far right tries to make things up they should first try and see what really happened.....LOL
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goodDonkey
Obama did a great job at the Moscow Summit. Agreements on cooperation with Afghanistan that will cost the Russians $130,000,000.00. Renewed joint training operations that will go a long way to relieve pressures between our military leaders. In such a short visit he got agreements to reduce nuclear weapons before the end of the START treaty, which will expire at the end of this year. He did not give in on defensive weapon systems. He did not give in on Georgia and Ukraine joining NATO. He strengthened President Medvedev hand by negotiating with him. This will go down in history as a very successful summit for Obama. He accomplishes all this in just a few days.
Obama said:
Obama reprimanded Moscow on several points: for its war last year with Georgia; for insisting that Georgia's breakaway republics, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, are independent nations; and for interfering in Ukrainian politics. Obama made it clear that his office believes Russia represses peaceful protests, engineers deeply flawed elections, controls the media, squelches dissent and generally exists without rule of law.
I know the Republican Mullahs are giving out the holy word that Obama has .... well just read the posts above by the conservatives. They pretend he did not accomplish anything. They pretend he gave away something - something that is a secret, which they cannot tell us. They say Obama was weak in Putin's presence. When the Republican Mullahs speak the conservatives masses carry out their marching orders and discriminate the conservative scriptures demanding adherence to the party line. The rest of the world just sticks to the truth.
I totally reject that Obama is the Messiah or even a miracle worker. But how does he do it? How can one man accomplish so much, without giving an inch, in such a small amount of time?
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zurcronium
I found him to be tough, smart, shrewd, very unsentimental, very pragmatic. And on areas where we disagree, like Georgia, I don’t anticipate a meeting of the minds anytime soon." PRESIDENT OBAMA, on Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.
Intelligent and concise observation of Putin. Different from 'I looked into the soul of the man', the quote from Bush on his first meeting. Putin played Bush for a chump after his first meeting with him.
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adaydream
DickMorris I would answer you, but you never answered my question. All you did was to write gibberish. If you can put together a ledgeable question after you answer mine, I'll elaborate my thoughts. < :-)
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