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  SushiSake3 at 09:31 AM JST - 29th May

  McCain, Bush make rare appearance together.

  The kiss if death for McCain's campaign.

  If there was ever a stake that could be driven through the heart of and put an end to McCain's campaign, this is it.

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  skipthesong at 09:35 AM JST - 29th May

  If there was ever a stake that could be driven through the heart of and put an end to McCain's campaign, this is it."

  I actually agree with you, but how else is he supposed to get those loyalists? While percent wise is low, the amount of votes is fairly decent. I am sure he is biting his cheek .

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  SushiSake3 at 09:45 AM JST - 29th May

  “No cameras. No reporters. And we all know why. Senator McCain doesn’t want to be seen, hat-in-hand, with the president whose failed policies he promises to continue for another four years,” Obama chided while campaigning in Nevada.

  That - in my book - pretty much says it all on this topic.

  SkiptheSong - "but how else is he supposed to get those loyalists?"

  I think you need to ask "Does he even need them?" I take it you are referring to hardcore Conservatives? McCain was never one of them and it may actually be better for him to not to attempt to become one.....?

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  RomeoRamenII at 10:48 AM JST - 29th May

  No cameras. No reporters. And we all know why.

  So, in Obama-o-vision:

  Attending a private fundraiser with the President of the United States = bad

  Attending a private fundraiser in an elitist's San Francisco home to say he's got whitey all figured out (remember the "bitter" speech?) = good.

  RR

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  RomeoRamenII at 11:59 AM JST - 29th May

  Democrat Barack Obama wasted no time in tying his likely rival to the unpopular president.

  Heh, of course those who want to see America surrender to the Islamoterrorists agree that Mr. Bush is an unpopular president.

  RR

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  SezWho2 at 12:10 PM JST - 29th May

  RomeoRamenII,

  That's just wrong on so many levels that I suspect that it would be better to let you steep in your fantasy. However, whatever you may call Obama's vision, I doubt that you have stated it correctly.

  I don't think Obama is saying that it's bad to attend a fund-raiser with the President. I think he's saying that McCain wants it both ways--to utilize the fund-raising ability of the President and at the same time to avoid actually being publicly contaminated by pictures of them on the same stage or by reports of them together. I think that's a legitimate observation on Obama's part, but I think it would be a mistake to make too much of it.

  On the other hand, I'm not sure how well-heeled Republicans escape being called elitists in your world. It may be that all men are created equal--though I doubt it--but they surely do not stay that way. Furthermore wealth and privilege will find a way of perpetuating themselves across generations and there will always be an aristocracy. You might be able to decapitate one or two generations but ultimately people will see where noblesse oblige fits into the picture. And not all the American aristocracy ends up in the Democratic party, I assure you.

  Be that as it may, I think that Obama never claimed to have "whitey" all figured out. (By the way, in my estimation your use of that word is just as offensive as use of the "N"-word. In fact, it implies that use.) I think Obama had to account for his failure to poll better among working class whites and he attempted to address that issue. In my opinion, much of what he said was true. (In fact, there are more than a few people who believe it was the great success of Karl Rove that Bush was elected on primarily niche issues.) But few politicians have ever advanced themselves by telling unpopular truths.

  Obama never said that it was good for him to attend fundraisers in California. And he never said that his remarks to the attendees were good. If anything, he said that the remarks were hasty and ill-spoken.

  If Americans cannot listen and think, they will get a government of people's prejudices, by people's prejudices and for people's prejudices. That has always been the fundamental flaw of democracies and that ours is a republic will not save us.

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  adaydream at 02:32 PM JST - 29th May

  John McCain having a meeting with george bush. This is wonderful campagning for the democrats. We couldn't ask for better vote getter for the democrats.

  Thank you george.

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  skipthesong at 03:55 PM JST - 29th May

  If Americans cannot listen and think" Americans will do exactly what the media tells them to.. I just found out that Hillary actually has more popular votes than Obama but one would never think that.

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  LFRAgain at 04:21 PM JST - 29th May

  RomeoRamenII,

  Your post on "Obama-o-vision" pretty much illustrates why so many Americans are thoroughly fed up with the past 7 years of the Bush administration. You take complex situations and try to distill them into one- or two-line quips in an effort to sound witty and astute, even when you're way off base, then you boil your distorted version of events down even further into something that can only be viewed as "good or bad," "black or white." Obama’s criticisms of McCain are dead on and he should be questioning the hypocrisy, as should any Republican who actually gives a damn about the candidate they propose to support in the next Presidential Election. That you don’t seem to see a problem speaks volumes about how blind you’ve actually become in your Bush Worship.

  I can't wait to see the oaf Bush and his morally bankrupt administration out of the White House. I can't wait to see Obama take the oath in January 2009, if only to delight in the petulant whining thereafter that will certainly constitute the vast majority of posts from mindless Bush loyalists like you.

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  Madverts at 04:29 PM JST - 29th May

  Sez;

  "That's just wrong on so many levels that I suspect that it would be better to let you steep in your fantasy."

  Bush Denial has being going on since the republicans seized the Whitehouse. Now that we're at the end of his tenure, he'll be leaving office with his legacy of the worst presidency America has ever known, and the ancient GOP candidate they're presenting this time 'round is merely being thrown to the wolves in light of his old age, and of course, his expendibility.

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  skipthesong at 05:19 PM JST - 29th May

  fed up with the past 7 years of the Bush administration." I recall when Bush and Gore were running and how oh how people were yelling they are tired of 8 years of Clintonism! Face it. It is the media that decides, not the people. Ross Perot was a much better candidate than either G Bush Sr. and Clinton, but the media didn't like him. I was hoping so much for a third party, a fourth, fifth, etc..

  I guess the media determines we remain a two party system, just one party more than communist China.

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  capone at 05:27 PM JST - 29th May

  dumb move by McCain...why would he want to be seen with the most reviled president in US history ?

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  adaydream at 11:12 PM JST - 29th May

  Yep, I'm fed up with the last 7 years.

  I don't recall any person, let alone a president, who has caused as much damage to the country as george bush has to this country.

  It's still 235 more days till george bush is out of office. he has plenty of time to do more damage.

  So george bush and John McCain meetings are more than welcome.

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  Everton2 at 11:41 PM JST - 29th May

  McCain and Bush, from the Jurassic, destined for extinction

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