Obama says he's committed to ending Iraq war

Sunday 06th July, 06:27 AM JST

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RomeoRamenII at 11:04 PM JST - 6th July

So, to recap:

barack obama is quickly proving to people that he doesn't keep his word. That's an important thing if you are running for President of the U.S.

Heh, democrat Lemming Day fast approaches.

RR
SushiSake3 at 11:04 PM JST - 6th July

Obama didn't create the joke that is he Iraq war. That was done by the loser currently occupying the White House.
buttamimi at 11:52 PM JST - 6th July

I've never really understood how anyone can classify what's going on in Iraq as a war. It is basically a sectarian conflict between various groups, including Sunnis, Kurds and a group which the software on this message board bans me from spelling. If the coilition forces pulled out tomorrow, then one would see the real conflict. Not a war on terror. Not a hunt for weapons of mass destruction. A full blown, internal, sectarian conflict unleashed by western powers. One thing is for certain, as long as the western powers have an oil interest and a military presence in that region (propping up some very dodgy undemocratic regimes) then they will a target of interest. I think Obama will be no different from many other presidents. He will toe the line. He will follow Judeo, Christian belief which is in direct conflict with the middle east region and supported by Israel.
Molenir at 11:54 PM JST - 6th July

Molenir - "Just because pulling out would ultimately create thousands of >more terrorists"

Staying in there has already done that.

More then would result in a civil war, whose blame would ultimately laid, correctly at the feet of the US? I don't think so. Try selling something else.

SushiSake3 - The "Dreaded reality" that we're blocking out, what is that exactly? That pulling out now would cause Iraq to implode? That hundreds of thousands would die in the resulting bloodbath? Which reality are you talking about? It doesn't matter that we are finally making headway in Iraq, in helping stabilize the country. What's more important is for the US to get out, right?

I really wonder about people like you, who seem to wear a blindfold to hide from reality. Its got to fit your preconceived ideas, or its bad! Despite what you want, the world is grey. People support the war for a lot more reasons than you can conceive.
buttamimi at 12:34 AM JST - 7th July

$650 billion since the war started. War-torn Iraq is emerging as a key conduit in the global drugs trade as criminal gangs exploit its porous border with Iran to channel their illicit goods to the Middle East, Africa and Europe. Fadhil Chalabi, one of the primary Iraqi advisers to the Bush administration in the lead-up to the invasion, recently described the war as "a strategic move on the part of the United States of America and the UK to have a military presence in the Gulf in order to secure [oil] supplies in the future". Chalabi, who served as Iraq's oil undersecretary of state and met with the oil majors before the invasion, described this as "a primary objective".
SuperLib at 04:56 AM JST - 7th July

$650 billion since the war started.

More like $2.5 trillion, probably. That's $12 to $40 billion a month.
adaydream at 08:50 AM JST - 7th July

Psssst.

We have United States citizens we need to be caring for.

Bring the troops home and take care of our own. < :-)
Maruku at 11:15 PM JST - 7th July

I like the man, but I think its important to remember, based on history, that the Americans never leave. Not saying that's good or bad, I'm just saying that's the way it is. "America" is way bigger than the President, which is why he is called the President and not Your Highness. So rest easy Neocon-types, you will not pull out even if Obama comes in (and too bad Dems and Co. who think you will be). There might might be a timetable for a partial withdrawal, but I doubt it will never be complete. Except for last man standing on a Saigon rooftop, it has never been that way, and its unlikely that it ever will be again. Even the liberals don't talk about it. You will never leave.
RepublicofTexas at 11:44 PM JST - 7th July

That article title is a little redundant, I think. All the candidates are committed to ending the war.
Molenir at 08:03 AM JST - 8th July

I like the man, but I think its important to remember, based on history, >that the Americans never leave. Not saying that's good or bad, I'm just >saying that's the way it is.

What history are you talking about? The Philippines maybe? Yeah the US is never going to leave there right. How about Panama. Not a chance that the US is ever going to return the Canal to Panama right. And of course you have the ongoing never ending Vietnam war to consider right...

Seriously though, that statement is so naive its hard to know where to begin. I don't think that anyone, apart from a few Neocon nuts want to keep the US in Iraq. We might maintain a small force there, to help out if needed, that might happen, but a large number of troops being based there permanently, simply isn't going to happen.
Wolfpack at 09:59 AM JST - 8th July

Despite the ongoing opposition of the Democrat party, the US is winning in Iraq. I can only imagine how much sooner we might have gotten to this point had paleo-socialists like Obama, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, and John Murtha actually supported their own country during a time of war. America's success is undeniable to all but the most rabid America-haters. Bush has kept our commitment to democracy in Iraq despite a ton of opposition from those that didn't care if the Iraqi people were left to live under Taliban-like rule. I am so glad Bush stood up to the surrender monkeys on the Left and kept it's commitment to the government of Iraq. For America and for the Iraqi people, winning is much better than losing. Obama is committed to ending the war; but is not committed to winning the war. Not much of a leader.
Maruku at 08:50 PM JST - 8th July

I think Obama is mistaken if he thinks he break with fundamental US foreign policy, which is to set up forward bases in other people's backyards. Maybe they're right about him being naive.
keshii at 11:07 AM JST - 10th July

“I was surprised by how finely calibrated every single word was measured,” Obama said. “I wasn’t saying anything that I hadn’t said before.”

Actually, in this speech, he changed his policy, which had included "immediate withdrawal of troops" as soon as he came into office.
Blue_Tiger at 07:59 PM JST - 11th July

Obama is untrustworthy. Unilaterally pulling out would totally reverse all the gains that the US Military has achieved in Iraq since the surge was first put into effect a year ago. Obama would be a class 1, Grade A fool to do such a wretchedly stupid thing.....
SuperLib at 04:28 PM JST - 12th July

SushiSake3 - The "Dreaded reality" that we're blocking out, what is that exactly? That pulling out now would cause Iraq to implode? That hundreds of thousands would die in the resulting bloodbath?

Sushi understands that if the US leaves too early then Iraq could slip into Civil War. And his position is that the US should leave now. His motivation is financial. He wants Americans to save money. Nice, huh?