Monday May 28, 2012

Obama says status quo no solution on health care

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    Molenir

    2 MILLION! Thats how many people gathered and marched on Washington. Forget the supposed Million Man march, this is beyond extreme. When 2 MILLION people march on Washington, you get a sense of just how upset they are about whats happening. The Dems had better give this a lot more thought before they consider passing this. Unless they're prepared to step out of power next year, they should think about just how unpopular this is. Anyone who votes for Obamacare had better pray they're in a heavily democrat district, or else they're almost certain to get booted out of office. Both congressman and Senators.

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    Molenir

    Bah. I wrote my post after reading an article on the rally that claimed 2 million people participated. After writing it, I read elsewhere numbers that were significantly lower. 30k registered, many more probably attended. That said, the disparity in reporting makes me question the validity of what I wrote. There is a huge difference between 30k and 2 million. While the larger number may be accurate, I'm not happy with the competing numbers.

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    seijichuudo9sha

    2 million wingers marching on the nation's capital today.Crazy.When did teh right wing learn to organize like this?

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    seijichuudo9sha

    Winger humor: angry crowds gathered behind a CNN reporter covering the DC protest start chanting 'Glenn Beck'.

    Yeah.Right.Real funny.

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    adaydream

    I have no problem with people standing up and exercising their right of free speech. Problem is if the country wanted what they are peddling, then their candidate should have been elected.

    Since their cadidate wasn't elected and their way of believing wasn't the majority, then they have to work with the ones in power.

    Saying that, I hope a version of the health care plan passes. < :-)

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    yabits

    There is a huge difference between 30k and 2 million. While the larger number may be accurate, I'm not happy with the competing numbers.

    Uh, no. The actual number was somewhere around 60,000 to 70,000. That's the number that shows up to a lot of major college football games.

    If you take the larger of those two numbers and add 30,000 to it, you should come up with 100,000. Then multiply that by 20 and you get an idea of just how far you are off from 2 million.

    Just like the numbers are being trumped up about those who are supposedly opposed to health care reform.

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    seijichuudo9sha

    Yabits my friend.Our side has lost.Wingers turned out in six-figure numbers.Impartial sources are putting the number at a million,minimumThe crowd was larger than the one for President Obama's historic inauguration.I'm embarrasssed to say they also left the mall spotlessly clean upon leaving, unlike our side back on Jan 21.

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    GJDailleult

    "a system that costs almost twice as much as any other rich country’s, yet yields substandard results and leaves tens of millions of people with no health insurance at all"

    That quote comes from the well known left-wing magazine "The Economist". And that's the system that people are marching to keep. Seems pretty strange to me, but I am sure they are all well-informed about health care issues and have examined the situation logically and rationally.

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    sailwind

    Seems pretty strange to me, but I am sure they are all well-informed about health care issues and have examined the situation logically and rationally.

    Yes, one would think after Obama's major address to the country just two days ago they should be very well-informed by now about his plan.

    I agree with you 100 percent on that one.

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    yabits

    Impartial sources are putting the number at a million,minimum.

    LOL! It would appear that your sources are not that impartial. The DC fire department put the numbers at somewhere between 60 and 70 thousand. Swastikas, big lies, it's all part of the new conservative M.O.

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    yabits

    a system that costs almost twice as much as any other rich country’s, yet yields substandard results and leaves tens of millions of people with no health insurance at all... And that's the system that people are marching to keep.

    I would prefer to look at the bright side on this: Among the right-wing tea-baggers, they perceive that a "Black Muslim" has taken over the White House and is ready to impose his version of socialism on the country. And they can only draw around 70 thousand out to protest that?

    Must be one of those soggy, overused teabags.

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    sailwind

    Yabits,

    I'd say between 200,000 to 300,000 were there.

    Unless you call that steady stream of humanity passing behind that reporter and running all the way up to capitol an optical illusion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-5oWWyKnhc

    Spin away the video shows much different. The line didn't finish at that spot until about 11:30 by the way and this video was done at approx 9:30.

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    lunchmeat

    Said Cornyn: “President Obama should work with Republicans on a bottom-up solution that the American people can support.”

    Hmmm... Democrats are the majority and so do not need any Republican support. Sounds more like not all Democrats -- not to mention their constituents -- are on board with this.

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    seijichuudo9sha

    It is not just Drudge Report or rush limbaugh reporting crowds larger than what turned out to protest bush's war in Iraq and even the Vietnam War. The British Mail Online is reporting 2 million teabaggers were in attendance.I don't know when they learned to organize like this but it is worrisome. Yabits,I think we can actually use this AGAINST this wingers if we put our heads together and find a racial card to play.

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    yabits

    Spin away the video shows much different.

    The video does not show anything related to the numbers touted by supporters of the protest. The DC fire department estimated from 60,000 to 70,000 and nothing I saw in the video causes me to doubt that estimate.

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    adaydream

    Hey lunchmeat, haven't seen your post for a while, welcome...

    The insurance companies are spending money all over to keep the public option out of any proposal. This will kill their continued upward swing in rates. It's amazing to hear commercials from insurance companies that are pushing some of these changes in house. They would never have considered any of these changes if Obama hadn't become president. But they are trying to pull blinders over the eyes of those who pay their bills and stuff their pockets.

    The insurance companies are gasping in horror that this might pass. < :-)

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    adaydream

    WOW!!!!!

    AMA endorses Obama. Not the insurance companies though. < :-)

    http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/ama-endorses-a-health-care-overhaul/

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    Molenir

    The insurance companies are spending money all over to keep the public option out of any proposal.

    Thats ok. The unions are also spending money all over the place to try to get it passed. They're gasping in horror at the thought it might not pass. Most doctors organizations unsurprisingly are strongly against it as well.

    If theres one thing I think this rally proves, its that the wingers truly are scared when the right organizes. You all come in and start braying like sheep. Odd to see things on the other foot when just a year or 2 ago, many of you were all in favor of the anti-war rallies. I love seeing how frightened the wingers and nutjobs get over the thought that Americans might just vote them back out of office.

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    seijichuudo9sha

    Props to the editor here for refusing to link to the articles about the anti-health care reform march on DC.You are doing your part,however small,to help Obama.

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    Nessie

    Status quo? What's that in 'murken?

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