Obama says U.S. should lead drive to force fair elections in Zimbabwe or unseat Mugabe

Wednesday 25th June, 07:00 AM JST

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Madverts at 04:31 PM JST - 25th June

I support regime change here. By force if necassary.
SushiSake3 at 05:05 PM JST - 25th June

Madverts - sure you do. Don't we all? :-)
RedMeatKoolAid at 06:42 PM JST - 25th June

'Obama' and 'fair elections' in the same sentence, a headline no less! Is this a joke, a new JT feature of some kind?

Obviously Obama counts on few people, MSM journalists least of all, looking into his involvement with the disgraced ACORN group (implicated in vote fraud in 12 states, convicted in Washington) or testimony from one of his first opponents in the Chicago area to the effect that he employed some very unethical methods and had his rival disqualified, leaving him to be the sole candidate. In moving to the state and then national senate later he defeated two opponents whose campaigns imploded when divorce records were made public, in one case against wishes of both former husband and wife.
RedMeatKoolAid at 07:18 PM JST - 25th June

Who broke Zimbabwe? Who needs to fix it? Not America. And would they trust a nominally African-American man made president of a predominantly 'white' nation? Should they? Who could blame them for their skepticism? The once-powerful European nations that colonized and plundered Africa and what became Zimbabwe - Britain, France, Germany, Belgium and Italy - all have sizeable minority populations, but in not one of these countries have those of African descent achieved anywhere near what minorities in the US have. Zimbabwe probably can't see America any more clearly than can all the dimwit Europeans who insist US intervention in Iraq was all about stealing Hussein's oil cuz he tried to assassinate Bush's daddy. I reckon the EU and or the UN would object to and even sabotage any substantive US intervention in Zimbabwe, since it would make Europe and the UN look that much more pathetic.
Madverts at 07:29 PM JST - 25th June

"Who broke Zimbabwe?"

Robert Mugabe.

Next...
SuperLib at 09:28 PM JST - 25th June

I support regime change here. By force if necassary.

Really?
SushiSake3 at 09:42 PM JST - 25th June

RedMeat - "Who broke Zimbabwe? Who needs to fix it? Not America."

Maybe you can outline for all of us here on JT why America is trying to 'fix' Iraq?

RedMeatKoolAid - "America. And would they trust a nominally African-American man made president of a predominantly 'white' nation."

There's that inherent racism again. Apparently black people (no need to mention Obama is half white) aren't good enough for RedMeatKoolAid.
SushiSake3 at 09:43 PM JST - 25th June

I must be wrong, but I thought this was the 21st century.

RedMeatKoolAid makes me think we are living in the 19th century....
RedMeatKoolAid at 10:03 PM JST - 25th June

Come now, where is the international left's faith in the United Nations? Why would Zimbabwe's neighbors want US intervention? We are the most despised country in the world, remember?
SushiSake3 at 10:14 PM JST - 25th June

RedMeat - who said Zimbabwe's neighbors wan US intervention?
Sarge at 10:24 PM JST - 25th June

Madverts - "I support regime change here. By force if ( necessary )."

Where's "here"?
GJP2006 at 10:44 PM JST - 25th June

Obama needs to support free and fair elections in the US and stay out of Zimbawe's mess. haven't we already had a painful lesson in interventionism these past eight years?
sdmsec at 12:39 PM JST - 27th June

Obama, the Democrats’ probable nominee, says U.S. and regional leaders should join to spread word that President Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwean government “is illegitimate and lacks any credibility.”

Ooooooohhhh! That's a great idea. Very likely to get results.

If that is impossible, Obama said Tuesday, “regional leaders backed by the international community should pursue an enforceable, negotiated political transition in Zimbabwe to make sure Mugabe goes.”

"Enforcable": You mean US troops, Mr Obama?

"to make sure Mugabe goes.”: So you don't care about free and fair elections? Just the outcome you want?

Mubmo Jumbo symbolism without a spine.
PepinGalarga at 01:48 PM JST - 28th June

the headline mentions Obama but the actual article only talks about him for the first 4 sentences, then it rambles on for 3 pages about what everyone and their grandmother say should be done. very poor piece of journalism...

Obama is trying to sound presidential, but if he intends to return the troops home from Iraq, he shouldnt be meddling in other nations affairs, much less talk about REGIME CHANGE.
WilliB at 10:07 PM JST - 29th June

Ah yes, we see an Obama foreign policy shape up. Of course, the Oba-messiah will solve the worlds problems, and then some. In the magic world of pre-election hype, everything is possible.