Obama seizes on growing disapproval of Bush policies to differentiate himself from McCain

Monday 16th June, 04:56 AM JST

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Sarge at 12:03 AM JST - 17th June

"Do they ( actually ) have anything on this guy ( Khalid )?"

Yeah - he admits to doing it and on top of that says he wants to be martyred. I see no good reason to turn down this particular request...

Madverts apparently believes this scumbag was set up. Incredible...
cleo at 12:08 AM JST - 17th June

Sarge -

Did he admit to doing it before or after they dunked him in the water?
RomeoRamenII at 12:14 AM JST - 17th June

Obama is pushing to define himself as a mainstream Democrat

barack spent 20 years in a church that promoted Anti-American and racial hatred.

His closest friends and financial backers blew up U.S. goverment buildings and to this day will not say they were sorry.

His true attitude when catering to other elitists behind doors was brought out in a nice audio recording: Bitter blue collar working class people living in America's flyover zone who only hold onto their guns and religion because they have antipathy toward anyone that is different. That's why he got hammered in the last 4 out of 5 democrat primaries.

Heh, yep .... sounds like the definition of a true mainstream democrat.

RR
Madverts at 12:20 AM JST - 17th June

Cleo, uh, sarge;

Even Bush Co Yes-Man, Gen David Petraeus wrote thinking that "torture could elicit information quickly was "wrong". He wrote: "Some may argue that we would be more effective if we sanctioned torture or other expedient methods to obtain information from the enemy. They would be wrong."

"Beyond the basic fact that such actions are illegal, history shows that they also are frequently neither useful nor necessary."
Madverts at 12:24 AM JST - 17th June

"His closest friends and financial backers blew up U.S. goverment buildings"

Heh, the Panic just gets....well, hysterical, as we roll towards November.
RomeoRamenII at 12:51 AM JST - 17th June

the Panic just gets....well, hysterical, as we roll towards November

Heh, yep, the democrats will be panicing as Lemming Day gets closer.

RR
Madverts at 01:00 AM JST - 17th June

Lemming Day was back in '06.

And I don't see any democrat supporters making up lies about McCain like you have been consistently doing, like yout earlier claim that Obama's "closest friends and financial backers blew up U.S. goverment buildings".

Panic away. It will be fun to watch.
RomeoRamenII at 01:06 AM JST - 17th June

Two words: William Ayres. Please try to keep up.

Panic away, verts. democrat Lemming Day will be here before you know it.

RR
Madverts at 01:30 AM JST - 17th June

Oh I will keep up, ramen. I will be noting your absence (again) here when the republicans receive their second thumping in 2 years.
RomeoRamenII at 01:38 AM JST - 17th June

Heh, yeah, and ever since the democrats took control everything in America now costs more.

Plus, the DNC chose to back a closet racist this time around. Heh, democrat Lemming Day fast approaches.

RR
Madverts at 01:49 AM JST - 17th June

"since the democrats took control "

Kerry lost y'know. But nevermind - you'll have from 2008 'till 2016 to blame everything on President Obama.
Sarge at 07:27 AM JST - 17th June

Cleo - He bragged about his involvement in 9/11 and beheading Daniel Pearl after the "dunk in the water." Oh, I guess that means he's really innocent and we should not only let him go but apologize and give him a hybrid car?

Moderator: Back on topic please.
cleo at 08:56 AM JST - 17th June

I guess that means he's really innocent and we should not only let him go but apologize

No, it means the people in charge of the war on terra messed up big-time; they could have shown the world why Western civilisation was worth saving from the terrerists, and instead they threw away the chance to hold a legitimate trial and bring a known criminal to justice. No legitimate Western courtroom would convict a person on the strength of a confession extracted through torture. They could have convicted him 'cleanly', on the tangible evidence.

They do have tangible evidence, don't they?

On topic, I seem to remember McCain stating clearly that he was dead against the use of torture. Maybe he needs to remind people that he isn't George Bush.

Assuming that he isn't, of course.

It happens every four years, regular as clockwork; 300 million people to choose from, and it always comes down to picking the lesser of two weevils to be Prez. Surely there's a better way.
shimajiro at 03:19 PM JST - 17th June

Instead, Obama is perceived as the one best able to handle the economy, and has repeatedly shifted the debate in that direction.

Obama has done a better job of tapping into voter anxiety about the economy and has proposed more and more comprehensive measures to deal with the effects of the slowing economy and globalization but, IMO, his economic policy is the worse of the two major party candidates. Obama would undercut the one cylinder of the American economic engine that is still firing reliably - the export sector - by adopting protectionist trade measures. He would also burden U.S. companies with a higher minimum wage, more regulation and unfunded mandates. Finally, his education program offers little hope of improving worker productivity which is the only means by which the US will raise its standard of living over time.

He again criticized McCain’s proposal for a temporary halt in the federal gasoline tax.

The tax is a bad idea but, IMO, not worth the time that Obama devotes to it on the campaign trail.

It would “actually do real harm,” Obama said, by reducing revenue for road and bridge construction even as oil companies make record profits.

Unfortunately both Obama and McCain seem to buy into the idea that windfall profits and high CEO salaries are ill-gotten gains that ought be realized. It's not appropriate for governments to regulate the profitability or cost structure of privately-owned companies.
shimajiro at 03:41 PM JST - 17th June

...that ought be realized

"...that ought to be regulated" I meant to say.