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VOR
The President's speech doesn't start until 9PM in Washington DC. How was this report written and posted before the event took place?
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herefornow
VOR -- my question exactly?
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yabits
People are waiting to hear the speech in real time now.... I can understand how writers can get an advance copy, but posting it before the live speech should be discouraged.
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VOR
another example of main stream media dishonesty.
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smithinjapan
VOR: "another example of main stream media dishonesty."
I don't think 'dishonesty' is the best description of what's happening here, unless they're lying about something. I think 'lack of morality' would be better. Besides that one sticking point, I agree it's a bit strange and should be discouraged.
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USAFdude
Pick those nits, Republican losers! Obama's speech was fantastic, uplifting, and on-the-money!
Congratulations, Mr. President. How wonderful it is to actually mean those words!
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WayneRooney10
Was it a good speech then? Did the president ask Are you better off now than four weeks ago? Are people getting with the programme?
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smithinjapan
It is indeed a good speech (judging by the text, anyway), and Obama acknowledges the situation well. Rather than dwelling too much on mistakes of the past, however, he offers people a potential solution; binding together, sharing in the sacrifice, etc. As such while he does warn people of the consequences of not doing so, he instead chooses to offer people a hard but practical way out of it. He doesn't lie and gloss it over as past presidents have, and he empowers the people to help solve the crisis.
This is the sign of a true leader -- one who empowers and acts as a guide, rather than simply dictating and expecting those 'under' him or her to follow.
On the contrary, it's become pretty clear that a lot of the naysayers seek a very negative character to lead them, and base the criteria for what is good or bad simply on how much money they personally make or lose. It's ceased to be, or never was, "Ask not what your country can do for you..." for them.
This goes for the people expecting to be bailed out and who likewise expect to do nothing on their own; Obama is not a good president simply because he's giving to people who would otherwise collapse from their own stupidity and wastefulness, etc.
I genuinely feel sorry for those people who have worked hard and saved, and are not only losing said savings, but heretofor are going to have to bear the burden of making things right again at the expense of those unwilling to try. However, this fact would not change if someone else -- particularly a Republican -- were in office. The only thing that would change is that said alternative leader would only be willing to cut taxes to the rich and keep the economy spiralling into the hole it's been going down for a few months, instead of trying to put a plug in it.
It is indeed going to hurt a lot of people, particularly in the short run, but as Obama said, in the end the US could come out stronger than ever.
This certainly did not start with Obama, but most Americans support his plans to slow it down and hopefully start to reverse it.
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smithinjapan
I wanted to add to that (but forgot) and say that I hope the people bearing the brunt of this are not only recognized for doing so, but duly compensated in the end. I don't think it will come any time soon, but I do hope it does at some point at least.
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GJDailleult
Just saw Jindal's response and there is only one word for it. Idiocy. Standing in front of a camera and telling people basically that you don't have a clue what is going on. Oh I get it now, THAT is why he is popular with Republicans.
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Sarge
Just heard Jindal's response and there are only four words for it:
Right on the money.
"telling people basically that you don't have a clue what is going on"
He did not say that, basically or otherwise. He did a lot of sense, though.
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GJDailleult
smithinjapan- good post but you are making a common mistake. It is not an issue of some people being stupid and wasteful and others responsible. It is an issue of an entire country being irresponsible. They were exporting DEBT, that is what their economy was based on, and all Americans profited from that. And now they can't export their debt anymore and their economy is going down the tubes. Nobody is more responsible than anybody else, the guy who can't pay has mortgage is just the mule who got caught holding the bag at the airport.
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goodDonkey
Now the Republicans are saying they are for less government and that they put their hope in the American people. Talk is cheap. Look at their actions not their words. They want you to pretend they did not run up the deficit. Let's face it they are liars. They trusted the government to cure the world of its ills by war. Democrats are devoting money to spending on needed programs. Democrats will be hiring government workers to perform the upgrades in America. They will be hiring Americans from American firms. That sounds a lot more like trusting the people than sending government troops in. We spent about the same amount and by the time Obama's spending bill distributes all the money, the war will have already cost more than the money hiring American workers to rebuild America.
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adaydream
Obama gave a great speach. We're in a verty bad position and this may be the only way to get out of it. For 8 years we lived through tax breaks and enriching the rich. Now we have to live through the lean times to get our economy back together.
Right Jindal has a new plan. The republican plan. Psssst, we just went through 8 years of that. < :-)
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zurcronium
So typical of republicans to condemn the solution after causing the problem to start. The Bush failure party denied there was anything wrong with the economy for about a year and then did little once their denials became a joke. Lying worked so well for the fake invasion of Iraq, it didnt work for the bush depression.
After 9-11 the demos worked with the repubs to respond. Now facing the bush depression the repubs are only filled with hatred and recrimination. Soon the whole party will be totally irrelevent as the american public wants solutions, not more failed rhetoric. Jindall is more clever than most regressive repubs but he is just as morally backward as Palin and the rest.
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sailwind
I think a few posters could take a lesson from this guy when it comes to "Republicans".
Arizona Republican Senator John McCain, who lost to Obama in the Nov. 4 presidential election, called Obama's speech "excellent" and said he struck the right balance.
"Whatever he said in the past, I think what he said tonight should give Americans some strength and reassurance," McCain told Reuters.
Class act and Country First.
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USAFdude
sailwind - So do you agree with McCain's assessment?
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VOR
Obama started off strong and I actually liked a lot of what he had to say then he outright lied to the American people ruining any chance that this guy can be trusted and that he is interested in bipartisanship.
His claim that there were no earmarks in the stimulus package or upcoming omnibus bill is a boldface lie and has the appearance that Pelosi is the one really calling the shots in Washington.
His claim that the Democrats inherited this deficit is another boldface lie. While it may be true Bush presided over the out of control government spending the past eight years, Bush never had the power of a line item veto to cut out wasteful spending in any budget submitted to him by congress. Obama obsolving the Democrats, including himself, in participating in this out of control and wasteful spending is such a ridiculous notion, it lowers that stature of the President and makes him appear disingenuous and untrustworthy.
As a US taxpayer and consumer, I am very disappointed in the Presidents ability to lead and remain very suspicious of the Democrats ability to do the right thing and will continue to look for ways to reduce my tax liability and reduce my contribution to the economy.
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Sarge
President Obama's speech was a good one. The guy has the gift of gab. And he didn't just trash-talk the U.S. economy this time.
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sailwind
I have to wait until I get instructions from my fearless leader Rush Limbaugh and his talking points yet.
Seriously, I can't make a real assessment yet as I haven't seen the speech. Only what I've read about it in the news on the net. I do trust McCain, always have and if he said it was excellent, I'm really inclined to believe it. Though I would be a little dishonest to say I agree with him or give you an honest assessment since I haven't seen it yet.
Though I am going to be very interested as to how the stock market will react tomorrow that will speak volumnes if the rhetoric matches the challenge of fiscal reality of our country today.
After work I'll check it out and give my thoughts then if your still interested in my opinion.
Thanks
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onedragon
America will come back.
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smithinjapan
GJDailleut: "good post but you are making a common mistake. It is not an issue of some people being stupid and wasteful and others responsible."
I think you misunderstood a key point or two in my post. Nowhere did I relieve anyone of responsibility in this matter, and I certainly didn't divvy up the nation into those who are responsible and those who aren't. In fact, I DID say that both those who condemn Obama for 'losing them money' and those who praise them for handouts are wrong... and for the same reasons. The only thing I said in regards to people who have been (somewhat) responsible with their personal affairs is that I feel sorry if they have to shoulder the burden for those who have not; in no way did I mean to imply that it was one or the other. On the contrary, the people I picked apart most in my comment are those who are simply 'naysayers' and are against Obama because they are losing money on his watch.
Anyway, we actually have expressed very much the same points. I don't believe that the people who have mortgages are solely responsible for the crisis. I DO think that if they truly believe they deserve a handout they have to start acting on their own and doing something to prevent THEMSELVES from getting into the same situation. They didn't start this all, though.
Sailwind: As I said after the election, now that it's finished I can go back to liking McCain a little. He was a respectable man before he campaigned for the Republican presidential nomination and subsequent run for president, and to an extent he has returned to his former self. I said the same thing about bush -- now that he's retired he can be a little more himself and actually garner a little respect here and there. McCain's comments that you quoted are definitely words that people can respect, but lest we forget they are in regards to inspirational words from Obama himself.
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SushiSake3
A very impressive speech by President Obama.
America will be back!
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SushiSake3
Sail - "I have to wait until I get instructions from my fearless leader Rush Limbaugh and his talking points yet."
LOL! That quip made my afternoon, thanks. :-)
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adaydream
I just love the posting of some republicans. Obama didn't inherit the country's deficit. If he didn't inherit it where did it come from? Was it something found in Iraq besides WMD? Was it found under the trash can in the Oval office when bush was president? Or was it found inside cheney's office after he left?
Like george bush didn't create the deficit. It was his budgets. But the republicans blame Obama for the deficit. Ple-e-ease. < :-)
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SushiSake3
The blame for the current astronomical U.S. deficit lies squarely at the feet of the GOP.
I actually read one of their members talk about the need for "more fiscal responsibility.'
That's just incredible, considering the GOP incurred more debt that any government in world history.
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Sarge
"America will come back"
In spite of the new president and the Democrats' mistakes.
"like george bush didn't create the deficit"
Which party has been in control of Congress, which spends the money, the past couple of years again?
And maybe you missed this:
The Bush administration had to deal with a crippled airline industry and fight a war on terror, which, I guess might be over, since the new president didn't mention it once in his speech. Heck, with the new peaceful administration, why would terrorists want to strike us, eh?
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SushiSake3
Sarge - "The Bush administration had to deal with a crippled airline industry and fight a war on terror, which, I guess might be over, since the new president didn't mention it once in his speech."
The crippled airline industry became crippled because GWB let in the biggest terrorist attack in U.S. history after being specifically warned of an attack using airplanes.
Then GWB saddled future generations of Americans with an incredible amount of debt, more than $6 trilion to be precise.
And you still think he 'protected' you, that's just too funny. lol!
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SushiSake3
Sarge - "Which party has been in control of Congress, which spends the money, the past couple of years again?"
Sorry, who had the power of veto? That's right, it was the same president who saddled your as-yet unborn grandchildren with debt - GWB.
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WilliB
The fact is that if a government could borrow and spent a country to prosperity, then Venezuela and Greece (and even the ex Soviet Union, North Korea, and Cuba) would be wonderful success stories, and Hong Kong and Singapore would be basket cases.
Obamas wonderful prose does not change reality.
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WilliB
Sushi Sake:
Umm.... hold on a second here. I thought government spending is a "stimulus" and the way to prosperity? Isn´t that what we are being told on the trillion bucks now spending announced by Lord Obama?
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SushiSake3
WilliB, the main difference between Obama's spending priorities and Bush's spending priorities is that Obama is spending money on Americans.
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Madverts
An eloquent speech, President Obama.
What continues to amaze me are the right wing hacks that continue to show their faces here - despite giving blind support to Bush ove the last eight years that headed down the road to economic catastrophe wearing identical ear and eye blinkers sported by the deciples.
You guys should be glad to have a president who is not only bold enough to carry through his vision, but who can also enunciate words with more than two sylables.
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Noripinhead
It's not so much what he said but the way he said that resounded with Congress. I hate it say it, but he came off like a rock star still on his honeymoon. But it was the tone that needed to be set. After the somber Inauguration speech, this one showed Barack Obama in his vintage stump-speech form. My favorite line: "Nobody messes with Joe."
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smithinjapan
sarge: "The Bush administration had to deal with a crippled airline industry..."
Well, yes, one often does have to deal with the problems one creates. Had bush actually heeded the warnings placed squarely in front of him of an impending attack, the airlines would not have been crippled.
"...and fight a war on terror..."
Again, something bush and co. began. Hell, if they had heeded the aforementioned warnings there wouldn't have been any terrorist attacks either, so the "war on terror" would not have been started and could not have failed.
You also forgot one, sarge, that you've mentioned in the same cut and pastes for the past couple weeks: Obama didn't have to deal with Katrina. I'll throw that one in for you.
You were, of course, wise not to bring it up again, since you've taken a complete and utter bashing at bringing these things up in the past, but let me point out why again. The biggest disaster about the whole Katrina thing was the Federal gov't (ie. bush and co) and their response to it -- errr... lack of response, save to helicopter the rich and elite out of affected areas. As if to make matters worse, you now have Republican Jindal as Governor who's refusing money for the battered state, simply to stick it to Obama (or try, anyhow).
sarge, sarge, sarge... Obama is here to FIX the problems, and like it or not the US will prevail BECAUSE of Obama and his policies, not 'despite' them. If we are all so wrong, why is it the MAJORITY of Americans alone support Obama and his stimulus package (never mind the rest of the world... probably 99.9% behind Obama)? I mean, so far the only people that seem to be against it are those of you on here who suddenly think this all started 5 weeks ago and didn't exist before.
Obama is a great leader, and he's shown it again with his ability to recognize problems and present solutions. They are not easy solutions, but at least he's not trying to hide it like the gov't of the past 8 years, or sweeping the mistakes of the past under the carpet, like posters on here. Obama is trying to unite the people of the country to work together and overcome all obstacles.
You guys? You're citing Jindal as a man who is 'right on the money' by trying to tear things apart before they've had a chance to begin to have an effect for the better. The funniest thing is that you non-patriots speak out against your present and then claim HE is creating partisan rifts!
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Badsey
Even Joe the Plumber would not buy a Zimbabwe $100 Trillion dollar bill -yet, everyone else should be buying American money because of Obama. ObamaDebt 2009 -Print it!! (and of course buy it!)
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yabits
Funny, how Bush and Republicans who ran Congress didn't ask for a line item veto. Maybe because it would have meant that Bush would have been vetoing Republican earmarks, and no Republican, Bush included, wanted that. Plenty of American people are seeing right through this form of Republican excuse-making and mendacity.
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rollonarte
"A Day of reckoning" ?? Sounds like that is from the same purple ink pen as "This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
I have a question. If federal response to hurricane Katrina under the G Bush administration was so criminally inept and was going to ruin New Orleans for decades how come the recent 1 trillion dollar stimulus bill, which was drafted exclusively by Democrats and was kept from the eyes of the voting public, included not one red cent for Katrina relief?
Remember this - that was all done after the Republican Jindal won the governor's race there and before anyone could have guessed some of the Republicans would refuse to accept money tied to agreements permanently altering balance of power between states and the federal gummint.
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yabits
One of my favorite parts of the speech, and one that should have special resonance for this forum came very early in it:
I contend that the act of coming to understand how we arrived at this moment must, by necessity, involve looking back and retracing the steps that orginated with failed policies and, more seriously, a failed philosophy. The massive push to deregulate everything, combined with a belief that tax cuts -- even in a time of war -- will pay for themselves (aka: Supply-Side "voodoo"), combined with the hubris that everything that America does is both great and right because we are who we are ("So, please, buy our debt."), have proven to be counter-productive.
It was refreshing NOT to hear things along the lines that "the free market will save education and health care." The belief that such a thing exists as a free market has been put in its coffin by those who claimed to have loved it most. But, like Dracula, it waits ready to rise again to claim a new generation of suckers. Unless, that is, enough honest people can be found to bear witness and continually counter the claims of the liars and revisionists. Ironically, the conditions that will best approximate the ideals of a free market -- especially freedom of information and transparency -- will be brought about by the ones who are accused of being "socialists."
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JoeBigs
To tell ya the truth, I am glad we have a President who tells it like it is. The economy is in dire trouble and we need to regulate it a.s.a.p.. Now I know this goes against all far right wing theory of ,"spend it while you have it and forget about our future" but you all see where that got us.
We need to tighten our belt and grab the economy by the throat and control it. Rather than let it roam free to do as it will. That mind set only makes money for the fat pigs. (said pigs because I like cats, nothing against pigs love the taste.)
I am so glad the far right did not win the last election, could you imagine Palin involved in making policy? LOL
Alaska, now what was McCain thinking!!!!LOL
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rollonarte
Obama never really worked in the private sector. He and his wife were beneficiaries of affirmative action programs. That's how they were able to get into Ivy League schools. Four degrees between them yet they admitted to being broke well into their thirties. Or maybe that was also a lie... How can a career politician who repeatedly showed on the campaign trail he doesn't even understand the capital gains tax lead a nation back to prosperity?
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smithinjapan
rollanarte: "He and his wife were beneficiaries of affirmative action programs. That's how they were able to get into Ivy League schools."
So please do tell us how GWB got into an ivy league school, then, I mean... if that's your sole criteria for saying the president lacks in some respects. I'll then give you a comparison of their public speaking abilities, and general intelligence as seen by the public, and it'll be pretty clear who was more fit for said schools.
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yabits
If so, they stand as examples of why such programs have greatly benefitted America. Where can we get more leaders and ethical, intelligent people like Barack and Michelle Obama?
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rajakumar
Getting deficit down but reducing deficits trillions and via low defense spending,is a way forward.
With Iraq troop level going down that will remove more spending on defense. I guess Obama,is going to make cuts on defense spendings big .
US balance sheets must look better,with lower deficit. It all about the trillions where they go,what they do to balance sheets of USA.
US should get the trillions up on the positive side,via more fiscal spending discipline on trillions.
USA also needs to get its exports up to foreign nations,in highly competitive world market.
Something that US can export more is more products-services from Nasdaq companies,which already have big global outreach.
US government must give more support to cyber revolution industries like Googgle-microsoft-dell-intel-HP-IBM and others.
I think this area of Nasdaq can add more 1000s of billions to US economy in future,in coming decades as more world nations enter more into PC tech-softwares era.
Obama should lift up Nasdaq companies again,via rebuilding of fiscal discpline assistance and encourage-assist fiscal discipline among Americans, in the way forward.
More Americans need to stay in universities to get more doctorates,degrees and other fine scientific research and development done. Time to encouraging,more reading and study by Americans in libraries and via cyber libraries. Time to invent more breakthroughs in fields of energy science, economic science and all other science.
Obama needs to overhaul the trillions engine of economic growth in USA and get it moving smoothly like a fine pathways of internet in world wide web links.
Fiscal discipline on trillions in US spending and income generation need to be done by Obama .
There is a need to bring a good feeling about America and of about the America's economy by Obama administrations/Americans. I think all folks need to put on their thinking caps to find way out of mess, in their own ways and also via govt assist ways.
If America can get into a economic mess,surely it can get out,by putting its thinking cap on, again.
More JT posters need to make,fine speech on JT american topics of discussions and put on more ,their thinking caps.
More people have to think how they got into economic mess,and start again in new resolve to get out, of fiscal economic mess via new dynamic ingenius ways.
Promoting high thinking/high discussions among Americans,is what is most important to get feedbacks , on the job to be done, on balancing the trillions in USA spendings and incomes.
Obama administration is one that listens a lot more to all American people,so people should use this to advantage to the full.
America and americans, is what it thinks and discusses about.
We become better,if what we think about or discuss about, gets better and better with time. There is no scarcity,except scarcity of time,to get the job done well and fine.
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Badsey
Ending the Iraq War will probably save ~50Billion a month. Funny how other countries don't see these war costs (Japan wanting to put troops into Somalia to protect ships etc)
War --> don't do it. Especially in a time when money is tight. I have no problem with Japan helping Vietnam, NK, etc -but sending troops is usually the wrong message.
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SuperLib
George Bush, Republicans, Iraq.
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Taka313
I watched the speech with the wife last night. It was possitively....presidential. What a breath of fresh air.
As for the gop response...not so much. Bobby needs to work on: a) his facts b) his public speaking skills.
And for rollonarte:
Perhaps because there is $3.9 billion of Katrina Aid money left unspent at this point.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-02-08-hurricane-aid_N.htm
Taka
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SushiSake3
Amazing! I just watched President Obama's speech. Finally, in complete contrast to the last 8 years, I feel like an intelligent, thinking, educated adult American president is speaking to me.
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adaydream
WilliB
$4Trillion was tax breaks and tax cuts for the rich. It wasn't spending to companies, it was cash to the rich.
rollonarte
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/04/09/michelle-obama-baracks-book-sales-paid-off-our-student-loans/
It wasn't until Barack Obama wrote a pair of best-selling books that he and his wife escaped their student loan debt, an experience Michelle Obama said Tuesday helps the couple understand everyday challenges better than policymakers in Washington.
rollonarte if you knew what you were talking about you might make some sense. Along with being a college professor and he wrote books.
He has paid his way all along.
More republican bashing without facts. < :-)
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buddha4brains
So if I understand who's to blame it would be Clinton for 16 years and Obama for 1 month (and counting). Really does speak highly of Bush's leadership.
Hint to GOPers: Real leaders take real responsibility. Why do you think Bush cannot handle responsibilty?
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SuperLib
George Bush.
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adaydream
Huh SuperLib? < :-)
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Badsey
No more promises!
I am still waiting for my George Foreman grill !!
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Madverts
Guys, Superlib has been an out-spoken Obama supporter.
Heh, get over Bush and his tenure fella's. Yeah, a part of this is entirely his fault, but the root cause of the current economic crisis stems from many factors, not just the W.
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TexasAggie
The Chronicle ran the transcript of what Obama said. Note this little gem:
Obama: "Regulations were gutted for the sake of a quick profit at the expense of a healthy market. People bought homes they knew they couldn't afford from banks and lenders who pushed those bad loans anyway. And all the while, critical debates and difficult decisions were put off for some other time on some other day."
If Obama's "F Troop" bothered with checking the facts they would have learned that the Clinton administration championed an easing of banking regulations, including legislation that ended the barrier between regular banks and Wall Street banks. That led to a deregulation that kept regular banks under tight federal regulation but extended lax regulation of Wall Street banks.
Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, later an economic adviser to candidate Obama, was in the forefront in pushing for this deregulation.
Obama's script writers are doing a great job at showing American voters what a fool he really is.
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Madverts
"Obama's script writers are doing a great job at showing American voters what a fool he really is"
Well, aggie - that'd be a breath of fresh air from the bumbling idiot we had for the last 8 years whose didn't even need scriptwriters to show the world what a fool he really was.
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smithinjapan
Madverts: "Yeah, a part of this is entirely his fault, but the root cause of the current economic crisis stems from many factors, not just the W."
You therefore admit that the man cannot be excluded from the conversation.
TexasAggie: "Obama's script writers are doing a great job at showing American voters what a fool he really is."
How does it make you feel, then, knowing that bush couldn't even speak better than the fool he had write speeches for him? I mean... if those were his SPEECH WRITER'S speeches, my got the man must really have been mentally handicapped.
What's more, Obama is best, and people have reported as much across the board, when he ditches the prompter and speaks from his heart. It's more his delivery that sells the speech, not so much the other way around.
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smithinjapan
my 'god', not 'my got'.
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Taka313
texasaggie,
Where in your quote from Pres. Obama did the president blame anything on anyone? Did he blame your dear leader? Did he blame the republicans? Nope.
He stated that the regulations were gutted. He stated people bought houses they couldn't afford. He stated lenders lent money to people they shouldn't have. He didn't blame your dear leader. So, I'm sorry, no "gotcha" moment for you.
But thank you for playing.
Taka
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Badsey
-and he stated he was one of the top 5 (#3) in Fanny and Freddy's pockets.
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yabits
But we truly understand how folks like Aggie get all defensive over that list of facts.
It's like one of those police artists at a sketchpad: "Gutted regulations, uh huh...putting off critical debates, right...blind in both beady eyes to the dangers of deficit spending...Got it." She turns the sketchpad around and, dayum, if it's not an exact likeness of...
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TexasAggie
90 minutes into the trading day and the market is already down 150 points. I wonder where we'll be at the close?
Obama's talk of rainbows and unicorns is now meeting reality.
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goodDonkey
TexasAggie said:
What does investors opinions have to do with the truth about the economics of our nation? If the economy stabilizes and consumers spend more the investors will change their tune. How many traders, brokers or financial advisers are economists? You seem confused between what economics is and what an investor does in making a prediction to make some money. But then again you are a conservative aren't you? And reflecting the stock market as being the great economic gauge is following the party line right now isn't it?
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JoeBigs
I for one am glad to see the market get a hold of itself. This insane ride it has been on needed to stop and it is now getting back to normal.
I am really happy to read and hear of new regulations coming the markets way. If you do not control the market is will stampede away.
For your information Texasaggie, when Bush came into office the Dow Jones was around 11000. When Bush left it hit 9000. Now by my Independent math, he left the market worse than when he got it.
Ok here is a challenge to the far right here. If Obama's plan works and our nation gets on it's feet in let's say 2 years or so. Will you give President Obama any credit?
I do not expect any Republican or hard line right winger to give President Obama any credit. I do expect that all Republican and hard line right wingers will try to steal that credit and give it to Bush. They want so badly to make him look like a good President rather than what he really was, the worst President we have seen since Hoover.
Wow someone worse than Ford and Carter, now that is incredible!
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zurcronium
When the republican party is lead by a former drug addict radio jock you know they have no change. The repubs have gone all fringy, only a few lonely and angry souls care about what they have to say. You know the type, just look around this thread.
Obama is doing stuff, along with the democratic party. What a refreshing change from the last 8 years.
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Badsey
"Obama is doing >stuff<, along with the Dems. What a refreshing change" --> sounds like something Pelosi would say, while California (her state) is asking for Billions in handout money for her state.
Meanwhile people are out of work and crime is worse. Your money is worth less, yet the Gov is spending more.
There is "stuff" and "change" right now.
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goodDonkey
Obama stuff =
Fixing roads, building roads, American workers will be hired to do these vital infrastructure needs, hiring American workers as Teachers, hiring American workers as Cops, hiring American workers to conduct scientific research, hiring American workers to expand high speed internet to make it available to every U.S. citizen, hiring American workers to research new means of energy resources for the U.S., hiring American workers to install energy efficient products currently available in the U.S., hiring American workers to build schools, assisting states to provide much needed services to their respective citizens, assisting states to rebuild infrastructure and continue on new development projects which in turn requires hiring American workers, helping people with disease and injuries to get medical treatment without smoke and mirrors like tax incentives (how are you going to get money back on taxes for health services provided when you never had the money to get the medical treatment in the first place???), hiring American workers to rebuild our electrical grids, getting money to kids and others who want an education but cannot afford one; including asking them to volunteer to trade their efforts for an education that will lead to a degree that will provide jobs and enhance our nation with knowledge. Oh yeah Clinton did that too! He gave both tax breaks and breaks for volunteerism to support higher education (besides his efforts to hire more teacher for K - 12).
Bush stuff =
Hiring American workers to build bombs and other means of human destruction, hiring American workers to fight Iraqis
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