Obama turns focus to race against McCain, as Clinton struggles to keep campaign afloat

Monday 12th May, 06:00 AM JST

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nucular at 07:17 PM JST - 12th May

'The junior senator from Illinois, a product of the most notorious political machine in the nation.' sushisake 3 :"You're clearly getting mixed up here. Obama never worked under Karl Rove."

If you don't know of the Chicago political machine you don't know or understand Obama.
RomeoRamenII at 07:36 PM JST - 12th May

"The Senator's name is Barack! not Barry, ... blah, blah, blah ... you have put your own ridiculous spin on it."

Everton2, it's obvious you really don't know that much about the candidate you support, do ya? Barry had no problem being called that back in the day:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/18/181128/082

RR

Moderator: All readers, in the interest of keeping the discussion at a mature level, please do not refer to Mr Obama as barry.
skipthesong at 08:11 PM JST - 12th May

However, I said before, I will say it again, I do believe their is a force in Islam that does want world domination and nucular does have a point about neither Obama nor Hillary bringing that out, but you can damn sure bet their would hit Christians (and rightfully so) hard.. That is an area I don't like.
SuperLib at 09:12 PM JST - 12th May

My my my, Sushi. Obama would reject your brand of campaigning. McCain thanks you. And Karl Rove wants your email.
SezWho2 at 09:25 PM JST - 12th May

SuperLib,

You, know, I agree with skipthesong there too--so much so that I took him to be in agreement with me in the quote you thought was well-said. I thought he was saying what I said: that the issue of McCain's military experience or Obama's and Hillary's lack of same was not relevant to selection of a president. It is a partisan dividing point and it is a false one.

What matters is that we elect a president with good judgment. It doesn't matter what party he is from. What matters is whether he is able to be a president for all the people and not a president for the Democrats or Republicans. But maybe you missed that implication because you thought my tactics implied something else.
usaexpat at 11:22 PM JST - 12th May

Ah yes, Obama the working man's friend. Gonna help redistribute all that wealth form the wealthy ($70,000 a year and up) to the needy (i.e. welfare mothers who will be supporting him in droves) Sorry, I'll be voting for McCain as I don't think the government needs anymore from my pocket.
SushiSake3 at 11:33 PM JST - 12th May

USAexpat - "Sorry, I'll be voting for McCain as I don't think the government needs anymore from my pocket."

Heh, the government's going to get you through the taxes they collect for the failed war you support.
usaexpat at 12:01 AM JST - 13th May

Sushi, not a fan of the war and certainly not a supporter. We should never have done it but GWB and his minions actually believed their own rhetoric about spreading democracy. The point is we're there now and a pullout will make us weaker. Whoever gets the presidency is going to have to come up with a way to quell the violence if they plan to withdraw with any shred of dignity. On this too I don't think Obama is up to the task.
mosc1 at 01:56 AM JST - 13th May

SezWho2 ... What matters is that we elect a president with good judgment. It doesn't matter what party he is from. What matters is whether he is able to be a president for all the people and not a president for the Democrats or Republicans. But maybe you missed that implication because you thought my tactics implied something else.

Political parties represent voting blocks. Democrats since the turn of the 20th century have represented the liberal/socialist voting block. Republicans at least until the murder of Kennedy by Johnson/Hoover have represented the conservative/unregulated business voting block. Following the government sanctioned murder of Kennedy, even though Reagan spoke the old Party rhetoric, the Republican Party changed the course of its Conservatism to Big Government back by monopoly corporations who slowly transform American workers into fuedal serfs. 5 Major corporations control the "free press" in the United States!
Badsey at 03:21 AM JST - 13th May

as per the Democrats 2009 budget; wealthy is described as making 31,850 per individual, 63,700 per couple. Also take in consideration the high inflation with it's high prices = many of the wealthy are not doing so well wealthy.
WhiteHawk at 03:26 AM JST - 13th May

SushiSake3:

Basically, McCain was a pretty bad pilot whose incompetence led to the destruction of a handful of planes.

SezWho2:

But if SushiSake3's statistics are correct, it would be interesting to find out how many have crashed twice, been shot down once and also collided with a power cable in an accident reminiscent of planes colliding with the Italian ski cable.

SushiSake3:

4 times?? That's not bad luck. That's incompetence.

A good friend of mine flew F4 Phantoms during Vietnam. He had to bail out on four different occasions. Not for being shot down or bad flying, but because of mechanical failures with the airplanes.

I'll have to say though, that the way SS3 presents McCain's flying record, he makes G.W.Bush look like one helluva pilot.

Oh wait, Bush actually was an accomplished pilot.

I've never flown anything that didn't have a prop on it, so I don't know how difficult those Vietnam-era fighter jets were to handle. But from what I have heard from those who know, the helicopter pilots of that war had much better equipment to work with.

And now, back to present day...

Finally, somebody from the DNC campaign gets to focus on the RNC nominee. I think it was adaydream who has been claiming (without any proof) that this prolonged DNC conflict has been driving the RNC nuts, because the Republicans can't focus their "dirty tricks" on any particular DNC candidate. Now Obama is proving the opposite to be true. The DNC has't been able to start trashing the RNC nominee because the DNC candidates have been too busy working each other over.

Since the only differences between the two DNC candidates is skin deep, all the RNC has had to do is attack the standard policies of a modern American Marxist, and they hit the bullseye. The DNC, on the other hand, can't go after the Goldwater/Buckley/Reagan brand of conservatism, since McCain is almost as liberal/leftist on many policies and issues as their own candidates.

Moderator: All readers, in the interest of keeping the discussion at a mature level, please do not refer to Mr Obama as barry.

Yes, because as we all know, only his friends are allowed to do that. And while we're at it, stop referring to current Clinton candidate as "Hillary". There's no sense in trying to tell them apart. ;)
nucular at 05:23 PM JST - 13th May

Hillary Rodham Clinton is struggling?

Miss this? -

A new ABC News/Washington Post poll finds:

"Pushing back against political punditry, more than six in 10 Democrats say there's no rush for Hillary Clinton to leave the presidential race even as Barack Obama consolidates his support for the nomination and scores solidly in general-election tests.

"Despite Obama's advantage in delegates and popular vote, 64 percent of Democrats in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say Clinton should remain in the race. Even among Obama's supporters, 42 percent say so.

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Vote2008/story?id=4837828
zurcronium at 12:30 AM JST - 14th May

how the losers and loonies of the rightwing are digging hard to do anything to stop the inevitable in their feeble minds. Get use to it, President Obama. And he is not the fish and cut bait failure that your repub bag of dwarfs and knuckledraggers has produced. No one however can top bush in the failure department. He has buried the repub party now along with his war dead in Iraq and the american economy. But the oil companies are doing well and that, after all, is what the repub party really cares about. That and gay marraige, unless they are gay themselves then its ok if they have gay sex but no one else can. How typical.

RR and the rest of the wingnut dregs can stop looking for WMD now in Iraq. Look to your own party as that is what bush is now to the dying repub party. Even Rove now has sold out the repubs now to go mainstream, that is rightwing, media.
WhiteHawk at 01:05 AM JST - 15th May

Could be. They've only been flying 30 years or so, plenty of chances for refinement.
bandogeek at 01:53 PM JST - 16th May

I personally like Barack Obama, but I don't trust a few people that he holds close to him, his wife scares me, and his reverend is turning this thing into another Civil Rights movement. John McCain has proved himself a very good senator, even if he has made a few mistakes he has proven that he is able to work with the other party. And that is what's best for America, to have a president who isn't so wrapped up in his party that he forgets about everybody else.