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  RomeoRamenII at 11:59 PM JST - 16th June

  WilliB,

  While it is true Mr. McCain is a RINO, he has shown that he can work with both parties in the Senate. That works in his favor.

  However, obama has only shown that he can vote "present" 137 times; meaning he's unwilling to take a stand on anything. What's more, he was a U.S. senator for only 143 days before he announced he was a candidate for POTUS; meaning he's now spent more time running for president than he has sat in the Senate chamber.

  obama is just collecting financial contributions from white guilt ridden liberals. Given his demonstrated limited experience in politics on the national level, one needs to wonder if he isn't actually a hack for someone else. Puppets come in all shapes, sizes and colors. Even the über-liberals agree on that point.

  RR

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  adaydream at 12:21 AM JST - 17th June

  Sounds like a desperation from the right side of the political sprectrum.

  They can't be happy that Barack Obama spoke to fathers, black or white. Matter of fact, he could have been discussing the beauty of this country and they would still be eating him alive. It's not what he said, it's that he's black, a democrat and running for office.

  I missed it, did John McCain do as likewise, a speach on the responsibility of fatherhood or being home for your children, whether black or white? < :-)

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  RomeoRamenII at 12:23 AM JST - 17th June

  verts,

  Heh, guess you'll be voting for barack. Good for you. You'll be doing your civic duty and voting for the one you think is best.

  As for me, I'll go with 22 years of Senate experience over a good talker (when a teleprompter is in front of him, of course) and not much of a doer.

  RR

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  RomeoRamenII at 12:46 AM JST - 17th June

  daydream,

  No matter how many flowery speeches obama makes, the fact remains he is known by the company that he keeps. For him it's his racist church that he belonged to (and recently also threw it under the bus when he finally figured out -- about 20 years too late -- that it was a political liability) and his association with people who hate America and for what it stands for. Like people who wished they could have blown up more U.S. government buildings in the 1960's.

  The far-lefties who run your party see no problem with all that. But no matter how many times the DNC and Lord Soros click their heels and say, "There's no better democrat than this democrat" barack never be given the keys to the Oval Office.

  RR

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  Alphaape at 12:55 AM JST - 17th June

  One ironic thing about this speech, was that it was feminism at its best. Hear me out on this. On a holiday that is supposed to be about "fathers" Obama lays into men (Black men) on how we are not being responsible. So much for a day about the good that many men (black too) have done.

  Yes men are responsible for making a child, but where Obama is in the feminist camp is when he does not put any of the blame on the woman also. It takes two to tango. In the case of a rape, I would understand. But in many cases, it is the woman who decides to sleep with a man (no condom, no birth control) who she knows may not work, hustles drugs and has kids by other women. So what does she expect? But, you can't say this in America because it would be considered chovanistic and demeaning to women. What better way for Obama to go after the women vote that Hillary had, than to say that it is all "Leroy's" fault and not "Tameka's"(just a few ethnocentric names for the discussion, but you can add any racial names and it is all the same). Any woman that lays with a man, and she all ready has children by another, then she has a lot to do with the situation she is in.

  A few flashy gifts and drinks for a one night stand that results in an unwanted pregnancy is both parties fault. I would even go so far to say that the majority of the fault lies with the woman. Unless the man rapes her, she willingly gives herself up. But Obama nor McCain or any of the media will come across with that point of view.

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  Triumvere at 01:12 AM JST - 17th June

  Alphaape,

  Isn't that somewhat besides the point? I think we can all agree that both parents are responsable for bringing the baby into the world, but the real question is, what do they do afterwards?

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  adaydream at 01:34 AM JST - 17th June

  Alphaape, do me a favor. Why don't you do a little looking outside your simple world.

  This happens within the white community, but there is more pressure from the white parents or friends or family that they should do the right thing, marry or support or to take the fathers to court to force them to pay.

  Within the black community, fathers have just dropped the ball on doing the right thing and more over not caring how many children that have, they ain't paying child support anyway, not going to.

  There are social stygmas also that help enlarge the problem here. I don't condone or even entertain tham in my world, but within the black community, it happens.

  But to blame this on the mothers? Do a little research. Pull your head out of the sand. Quit being a sexist. < :-)

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  Alphaape at 02:09 AM JST - 17th June

  adaydream, I am black and have lived in a blac community for over 43 years. What are your qualifications? From seeing this phenomenon up close, it is not all the blak males fault. Women who let guys sleep with them that have no jobs, no prospects of a job are just as much to blame as the men. True if the man does create a child, then he is responsible to support, but I would argue, if he does not have the opportunity to create (i.e. if the woman says no) then part of this problem would be solved.

  Since I am not white I will probably have to defer to your comments, but I have seen white men do the same thing. There was an article in Monday's Stars & Stripes about a dad who is getting to know his son in Iraq, since both are in the National Guard,and he admits he was not theref for his son while he was growing up. They are both white. I am sure if you looked in places all over America, you will find the same issue of non support of parents for children.

  Also, contrary to what the media portrays in places like Obama's old church, most Black churches are pretty conservative when it comes to issues like unwed pregnancies, at least the ones I went to when I was growing up in the deep south. So, it is not just a wild social free for all in black communities with sex without consequences. There are responsible people, but the bad ones get the press. Are there issues, yes. But I would imagine if you did a bit of research on your own, you would probably find that the percentage of white children in orphanages is probably a bit higher than blacks. I would imagine the act of putting the child up for adoption is better than keeping them around for the white community as compared to black communities.

  Bottome line: if I ask a woman to have unprotected sex with me and run the risk of getting her pregnant, then we both know the risk (STD's, pregnantcy). If I in my own mind have decided that I am going to just father a kid and leave and ask the same woman, and she says yes, then we have sex. If she says no, then guess what, she doesn't get pregnant by me and an unwanted child is not born. Women have a lot of choice in this matter.

  And since you are going on the social stigma angle, I did not see Obama make a similar speech on Mother's Day about the responsibility of women in their roles of choosing to have children with men they don't know much about or known to have multiple kids.

  Maybe Obama could come here to Japan and speak to the women who seem to have it in themselves to kill their children just like the recent post here on JT.

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  adaydream at 02:20 AM JST - 17th June

  My contention still stands. It's not all the women's fault.

  I understand you're black and I understand what you're saying.

  Well, let's beat up on Obama for not making this speach on Mother's Day. I don't remember anybody making this speach on Mother's Day, from black or whites. I don't understand. From the left or the right, women either don't count or they aren't the problem, or at least aren't the substantive fault for it.

  These men leave the place there the children are. "HOMES" They leave because they don't want to deal with it. Don't want to hear thje kids. Don't want to pay for their children. I don't think there are a lot of black single men raising children, like I don't think there are a lot of white men raising children. These kids are left with the responsibility of the mother. < :-)

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  adaydream at 02:42 AM JST - 17th June

  I am black and have lived in a blac community for over 43 years. What are your qualifications?

  I am only an observer and learner of my surroundings. My grandmother was the director of the local Health Dept for years. She and my mother raised me. I spent many many years around her and her work. Back then, more than half of everybody she saw was black. We visited many homes, for home health. When my Mother and Grandmother were both working and I couldn't go, Ms. Lillian, my Grandmother's dearest black friend, would care for me in her home. Ms Lillian was a very good influence in my life.

  After my Grandmother retired my Mother worked there for years.

  No, I'm not black. But I've spent a great deal of my childhood in the black community. I've mentioned Rev. Leroy Pleasant on JT, also. He was a black minister that I was with as a child. He was another leader in my life from the black community.

  And being from Kentucky, I was never disrespectful of anybody black or white. My geneology is questionable at best. < :-)

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  adaydream at 03:27 AM JST - 17th June

  One last thing. My parents divorced when I was 6. I had 3 younger brothers and a half brother later. My Dad left when he couldn't deal with 4 children. He was a little man, not just in stature but as a person. Like most dads who won't take responsibility.

  I saw my Dad about once every six months because Mom forced him to take us. My Dad was a child beater and I could have stayed away as far as I was concerned. But she forced him to pay child support and to see us. He would be as father whether he wanted to be or not. To some extent.

  I know about abandonement by a father, also. < :-)

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  Alphaape at 09:18 AM JST - 17th June

  adaydream, based on your life story and the story of the black woman who sometimes would care for you, you should understand that in the most part, most black's come from a conserative ilk. In today's media, your Ms. Lillian would be considered a throwback and old fashioned and not understanding the modern world. I am sure that she stressed responsibilty, and the other Rev. would not be in total agreement with the callus sex and abandonment of children by men, nor the radical gay agenda, nor for the total depenedency of poor on hand outs from the government. I bet they believed if someone needs help, it should be offered, but not as a way of life and an "entitlement" and that they have no responsiblity for their actions. I am sure the good Rev. probably preached along those lines during his years in the ministry.

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  RomeoRamenII at 05:30 PM JST - 17th June

  Heh, yep. obama knows all about abandonment.

  He abandoned half of his heritage to embrace only his Black heritage by describing his white grandmother, who raised him and stood by him, as a "typical white grandmother".

  Also, barack is once again poaching other peoples' ideas. It was New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan who first said all of this about the American black community back in 1994 and was branded a racist for his remarks.

  RR

  Yes, Obama knows all about abandonment!!

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  WhiteHawk at 02:15 AM JST - 18th June

  WilliB nailed it. It's great that Obama is calling for this change, but Mr Change will do nothing to help. In fact, he's proposed even more taxpayer-funded "solutions", and even more dependency on the government, which will only make the circumstances worse.

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  adaydream at 03:52 AM JST - 19th June

  Alphaape, Ms. Lillian and the Rev. Pleasant were both conservative and stood on their own feet. They, along with my Mother and Grandmother shaped my life as a child.

  Because of the way they were, me being born with nothing of value, I stayed in the military and FedGov't till I retired.

  They were proud people. Not too proud to accept help when needed, but too proud to live off others.

  My Dad never worked anywhere over 5 years. He died poor as church mouse. The way I was raised at home, made me work hard and never ever receive anything I didn't think I deserved, like welfare or unemployment.

  We were poor. But with good guidance and my love in our home, we were blessed. (Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Everytime the church doors opened, my Mother had us there.) < :-)

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