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Obama visits tomb of slain Salvadoran archbishop

World Mar. 23, 2011 - 08:00AM JST ( 22 )

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rajakumarMar. 23, 2011 - 10:30AM JST

Land reachable countries and near spanish-portuguese speaking countries,should be 1st priority in progress development expansion.
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SargeMar. 23, 2011 - 04:45PM JST

"Not everyone was happy with the Obama visit."

You can't please everyone.
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yaneeMar. 23, 2011 - 06:47PM JST

U.S. President Barack Obama stood, eyes closed, in a personal moment of silence before the tomb of slain Roman Catholic Archbishop Oscar Arnulfo Romero...wishing he too could be as beloved a man...
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yabitsMar. 23, 2011 - 06:59PM JST

and paid respects to a man ordered killed 31 years ago by an official in El Salvador’s U.S.-backed army

The U.S.-backed thugs often killed and raped nuns and priests for the sins of helping the poor.

During the war, death squads composed of civilian and military funded by the Salvadoran elite killed seminarians, nuns and priests who worked with the rural poor, according to the Truth Commission’s final report.

The article has got it right. Later, Ronald Reagan told the American people that these killers in the region, murdering in the name of "anti-left" causes, were the "moral equivalent" of the U.S.'s founding fathers. Gee, I never realized that people around Washington and Jefferson raped and murdered clerics.
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sailwindMar. 23, 2011 - 07:47PM JST

The article has got it right. Later, Ronald Reagan told the American people that these killers in the region, murdering in the name of "anti-left" causes, were the "moral equivalent" of the U.S.'s founding fathers

Yabits,

Let go of your anger..Obama atoned for Reagan's sins after all he,

But Obama stayed with his tribute to Romero, nodding gently as he opened his eyes.

Gosh, what a guy.
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yabitsMar. 23, 2011 - 08:43PM JST

Obama atoned for Reagan's sins

Did he now.

Let Americans never forget what those sins were, as much as the right-wing supporters of rapists and murderers would like us to forget. And how it causes their anger to rise when the crimes are mentioned.

Forgive, yes. Forget, never.
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sailwindMar. 23, 2011 - 09:06PM JST

Let Americans never forget what those sins were, as much as the right-wing supporters of rapists and murderers would like us to forget.

Clarify....supporter of rapists and muderers? Are you calling someone who does not agree with your political view as condoning and supporting rapists murderers during that time, what you actually WANTED a communist revolution ala Cuba to take hold in the South America and in our whole backyard? Mad that some folks thought that was a bad idea?

And how it causes their anger to rise when the crimes are mentioned.

Guess we can see add Libya citizens anger now to that mix in the future when our crimes our mentioned.
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DentShopMar. 23, 2011 - 10:16PM JST

you actually WANTED a communist revolution ala Cuba to take hold in the South America

Yeah - instead of communism they got murder, corruption and repression.

Oscar Romero was a hero and the worlds current "leaders" could do worse than looking to this great man for inspiration.
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sailwindMar. 23, 2011 - 10:59PM JST

Yeah - instead of communism they got murder, corruption and repression.

Agreed...Stalin purges....Mao Great Leap Forward....Pol Pot Camdodia.....North Korea, what a great idea for the masses.
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yabitsMar. 23, 2011 - 11:13PM JST

you actually WANTED a communist revolution ala Cuba to take hold in the South America and in our whole backyard?

A right-wing poster tried to make a similar point on the topic of President Obama's visit to Chile. Paraphrasing him, "Pinochet had to launch a smaller massacre in order to prevent a bigger massacre that Allende would have caused." This is the immorality of the position that claims the ends justify the means.

Archbishop Romero stood for a different kind of morality.

But the revealing words in the post are the ones that refer to Central and South America as the United States' "backyard." I have a house on a lot, and my backyard stops with my property line. After that, it's somebody else's backyard.

It is the right of a people to choose what kind of government they will have, even if that means a type that displeases the elites who run US foreign policy. Romero advocated for a system geared towards the needs of the poor rather than the wealthy -- and for that, he had to be assassinated.
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DentShopMar. 23, 2011 - 11:22PM JST

Agreed...Stalin purges....Mao Great Leap Forward....Pol Pot Camdodia.....North Korea, what a great idea for the masses.

We dont agree at all. Never would I wish any of your suggestions on anybody. The problem is when the alternative is just as bad - if not worse.
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zurcroniumMar. 23, 2011 - 11:56PM JST

reagan helped the terrorists to kill romero and obama comes decades later to give tribute to him.

Yet another piece of nasty work that reagan enabled during those dark days for the US. Iran-Contra, look it up. More of the same.
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yabitsMar. 24, 2011 - 12:24AM JST

reagan helped the terrorists to kill romero

Archbishop Romero was assassinated in March of 1980 -- nearly a full year before Reagan took office.

The policies of overturning democratic elections in the region (Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Chile) through US support for military coups and death squads were established long before Reagan. It was his equating the kind of people who had Romero killed with the US founding fathers that was a perfect example of the right-wing's attempt to turn black into white.
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TheQuestionMar. 24, 2011 - 01:08AM JST

Good to see a hero honored. Romero spoke out against murder and repression and would have done so no matter what form it had taken. God bless the Archbishop and those like him.

instead of communism they got murder, corruption and repression

In the vast majority of instances communism, murder, corruption, and repression are mutually inclusive.
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SuperLibMar. 24, 2011 - 03:32AM JST

Yabits: The policies of overturning democratic elections in the region (Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Chile) through US support for military coups and death squads were established long before Reagan.

Yeah, but you have to admit that the US has also done a lot of good in the world. You can't really ignore that. In fact, I think it's times like this when it's best to remind ourselves of all of the good we've done so we don't tilt too far to one side.
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yabitsMar. 24, 2011 - 04:28AM JST

Yeah, but you have to admit that the US has also done a lot of good in the world. You can't really ignore that.

It's precisely because the US has done a lot of good in the world that Americans (especially) should examine the complete record to understand how the evils America has also done in the exercise of its hegemony have served to undermine and often outweigh the good in the minds of many.

I keep the thought in mind that all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do and say nothing -- which includes forgetting and turning a blind eye to their nation's involvement in matters like the Romero assassination. It was particularly alarming to hear American leaders equating the people causing so much brutal and wanton death to the founding founders. (How far down that slope could we slide?)
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Lieberman2012Mar. 24, 2011 - 01:40PM JST

Just great, Mr. President.An ostentatious display of your Christian faith as we start bombing yet another Muslim country...
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zurcroniumMar. 24, 2011 - 09:12PM JST

Reagans support of the butchers who killed romero resulted in 75,000 additional deaths until Clinton became President and ended the republican support for terrorism by the state with US training and arms. All blessed by Reagan. Just more war crimes by the gipper. But nothing tops Iran-Contra, look it up.
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Lieberman2012Mar. 25, 2011 - 10:38AM JST

It is kind of funny to come here read the opinion that Ronnie Reagan was responsible for Archbishop Romero's death (March 24, 1980), when Reagan wasn't elected US president until November of that year.Now, does that mean Carter sponsored the killers?No.The people responsible are the ones who did the killing.
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SuperLibMar. 25, 2011 - 12:06PM JST

Yabits: It's precisely because the US has done a lot of good in the world that Americans (especially) should examine the complete record to understand how the evils America has also done in the exercise of its hegemony have served to undermine and often outweigh the good in the minds of many.

I think that's a great idea. You can focus on the negative only and I'll focus on the positive only and we'll balance each other out.
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yabitsMar. 25, 2011 - 12:33PM JST

You can focus on the negative only and I'll focus on the positive only and we'll balance each other out.

Perhaps you should keep your focus on attaining some maturity.
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SuperLibMar. 29, 2011 - 05:13AM JST

I actually thought it was a good idea. That way people can see both sides, not just yours.