Obama vows to fight Holocaust deniers
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Razor
Sabiwabi, take note.
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Altria
Is he also going to fight the black van Nanking deniers, perhaps by lobbing a presidential pot plant at them?
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whynothow
Holocaust? what is that? where? when? In Palestine? Lebanon? Israel , you're just asking for more.
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teleprompter
Did he repeat, for the benefit of starry-eyed devotees, his bogus campaign story about the uncle who liberated a concentration camp?
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skipthesong
Every day, he said, people should resist the urge to turn away when scenes of horror unfold across the world " don't watch youtube!
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teleprompter
More platitudes than an old-fashioned Hallmark store.
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TexasAggie
To quote Obama: "Just words. Just speeches."
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likeitis
I just hope people learn the difference between denial of the Holocaust and debate about the details. Its amazing the frequency with which people get those confused. Many things about the Holocaust are debatable, just like every other historical event.
Yes, I think the Holocaust happened. But if you think all aspects are known and only the 100 percent correct truth graces our history books, then you are a great fool indeed, and darn near as dangerous as those who deny the Holocaust completely.
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elbudamexicano
I think this is extremely noble of President Obama, we have idiot neo nazi types all over the world, and we should never let such a horrible and painful incident, such as the Holocaust to ever be forgotton.
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skipthesong
Denying facts about history is wrong, however, I feel we should at least allow people to be heard. Too many times if someone comes up with something, they are labeled as anti-semetic or anti what ever without ever really getting the chance to hear/read what they are talking about. So, I feel preventing history from being told is also just as big of a problem.
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Madverts
I"m trying to work out if the telepompter or heh, aggie, is agreeing with President Obama's speech, or actually disagreeing with it. When Partisanship reaches this kind of radical extremism, it certainly needs a medical term.
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goodDonkey
Thank you Mr. President for using the bully pulpit for the noblest of causes. The notion that the president's eloquence detracts from an effort to keep the dialog going that we need "never forget" is absurd. This comes from the presidents heart.
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jeancolmar
There is no denying the Holocaust. It is a horror that only becomes more horrible the more you know about it--and I do not mean just the "details." It is going to haunt this world for centuries in one way or another. There will always be the Holocaust deniers and Obama was right to denounce them. It is also an easy thing to do, speaking as one who has done it and will do it again if necessary. It is harder to condemn Israel's crimes against humanity, like Gaza, or Turkey's denial of its Armenian Holocaust. (Who gives a hoot about the Armenians? said Hitler, or words to that effect in German.) Or for that matter, in is hard to rub Japan's nose in its war crimes. It is likewise, hard for an American president to condemn the crimes of his own country.
The Holocaust is here to stay in people's memories. But there is a bit of a denier almost everyone. There are victims whose existences are cheerfully forgotten when the Holocaust is discussed. Try this out. How many people did the Holocaust kill? Six million is the standard answer, which Bob Dylan even put into a song. Wrong answer. Around six million Jews were murdered but the death toll stands at around 11 million. If you insist on six million you are a Holocaust denier. If you somehow insist that the Holocaust was exclusively a Jewish tragedy you are Holocaust denier. (And of course you are a complete idiot to deny the Holocaust simply because you are mad at Israel.) As I mentioned before, the Gypsies lost a larger percentage of their population than the Jews, but who really cares about the Gypsies, right? There were others: Leftists, pacifists, Slavs, the physically and mentally handicapped (called "useless eaters"), homosexuals, and others who I cannot name at the moment. This isn't a matter of "details." It is a matter of seeing not only the full scope of the horror but also confronting your own prejudices. The typical Holocaust denier is invariably anti-semitic. But there are the partial deniers. How do you feel about the gay and lesbian victims? What about the Roma victims? How about the Russian victims? Yes, how about the Russian victims especially, since Russians have been hated in one way or another to the present.
"President Barack Obama paid tribute Thursday to the memory of Jews murdered in the Holocaust and said it is the duty of the living all over the world to end such atrocities forever," we are told in the beginning of this article. The man really needs a history lesson, so the next time he speaks of the Holocaust he honors the memories of all its victims. He ought to spend some time in the Holocaust Museum which has, to its credit, made an effort to document ALL the victims of the Holocaust.
By the way, one source I've read, Wikipedia I believe, says that some black people died in the Holocaust? Does anyone have any information on this?
To conclude: Honor all victims of genocide or mass murder that approaches genocide without exception. It is no guarantee that history won't repeat itself, but at least it will serve notice to potential mass murderers that their victims will not be forgotten like the Armenians in Hitler's mind.
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Helter_Skelter
The whole issue of Holocaust revisionism was created by neo-Nazis and Islamists, brought on by their hatred of Jews and Israel. That's really all one needs to know about this topic.
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jeancolmar
Acually, Helter_Skelter, you need to know more. For instance, how do you explain to rise of neo-Nazism in Russia when over 20 million Russians were killed by the Nazis? Islam is eclectic in honoring Jewish prophets and Jesus. Christian bigotry against the Jews has been around for centuries. And then there is the vast ignorance of the true scope of the Holocaust. I might add that most critics of Israel, which includes Jews in and out of Israel, are not Holocaust deniers. And one last question: How many Holocaust deniers are there and what is their geographical distribution?
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teleprompter
Good posts here. Europe is the eternal graveyard of at least 6 millions Jews killed in the Holocaust. It was not just the Nazis and the Germans who did the killing. As an American I can only wonder how Europe could systematically slaughter so many of their best and brightest and then, within not even two generations, allow for massive unbridled immigration from countries which are home to the religious ideology that has produced the most implacable enemy in Europe's long history.
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Helter_Skelter
Jean, I read your post a couple of times and am not really sure what point you're trying to make. Holocaust deniers are typically neo-Nazis and Islamists, with David Duke and Ahmadinejad being prime examples. Not sure it's anymore complicated than this. Why don't you learn about the long history of alliance between Islam and Nazism. You might better understand what Israel is up against.
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likeitis
Darn tootin. After over one thousand years of exodus, a traumatic event was absolutely necessary to spark a mass drive for the resurrection of the Jewish homeland. That event was the Holocaust. The suffering and near death Jews the surviving Jews survived was absolutely necessary to give them the desire and steel them for the difficulties they faced, such as fighting off several countries at once, and burning Muslim farmers off their lands and herd them into mass concentration camps. You do not just wake up one fine day and get to be such efficient soldiers and so merciless against your fellow man. And, they learned from the best how to do those things while at the same time observing their errors and improving on their methods: yeah, I am talking about the Nazis.
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Helter_Skelter
likeitis, where are you getting such nonsense? Twenty percent of the population of Israel is Muslim Arab, and they have one of the highest standards of living in the Middle East. Muslim Arabs are represented in the Israeli government and can vote in elections. Every day Muslim Arabs from outside cross into Israel in order to work.
The only thing the Jews of Israel are guilty of is defending themselves against another Holocaust by their Muslim Arab neighbors. Take some history lessons about the collaboration between the Nazis and Muslim Arabs. Try to recognize that this is continuing today.
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likeitis
By reading history.
This is NOT history. This is the present. And since this is your demographic, does this include the population of Gaza Strip?
Again, does this include Gaza Strip? No? Well how did Gaza Strip come to be?
Yes, that 20 percent minority is represented by an even smaller minority int he government. Super. But again, welcome to today. It was not always like that, not that today is stellar either.
To work their own land? You seem to have totally missed my point.
They helped to bring war on their own heads by doing what I mentioned and more.
Israeli guilt is both past and present. Involved Muslim countries are no angels either, but the modern problem began with the Jews of Israel and those who emmigrated last century. And I am decidedly uninterested in what happened over one thousand years ago.
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