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Owners of killer dogs to face jail in Australia

World Sep. 13, 2011 - 11:33AM JST ( 15 )

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tajSep. 13, 2011 - 01:32PM JST

Good ideas, except, it seems to be too focused on breed. I don't care if the dog is a Heinz 57, if it mauls someone, it's owner should be charged. Any dog can be dangerous - given the wrong environment.

(Chihauahua-sized ones are less-likely to rip an infant from it's mothers arms, of course, but it could still rip a throat out.)
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MadvertsSep. 13, 2011 - 02:01PM JST

Applied reasonably this can only be common sense.
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cleoSep. 13, 2011 - 02:10PM JST

What taj said. Less focus on the breeds as such, more focus on what kind of people are keeping what kind of dogs and turning them into dangerous animals.

restricted dog breeds must also wear warning collars to alert the public they are potentially dangerous.

If you're close enough to read the warning on the collar of an unknown, potentially dangerous dog... you're too close. Unless a 'warning collar' means something that flashes neon and sends out a loud warning siren to alert anyone on the street - which would be enough to turn the meekest mildest pooch into a stressed-out neurotic.

any American pitbull terrier not registered by its owners by the end of this month will be destroyed.

And again it's the dog that draws the short straw, for the heinous crime of being born.
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cleoSep. 13, 2011 - 02:15PM JST

Should add that the kind of person who wants to own a dangerous dog because it's dangerous would probably see a 'warning collar' as a kind of status symbol, adding extra swagger to the 'look at me and my fierce dog' mentality.
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The Munya TimesSep. 13, 2011 - 02:37PM JST

We are sending a clear message to owners of these dogs: if your animal endangers life or kills somebody, you will be held accountable,

No, you are not. It doesn't have any deterrent value. In the medieval age thieves were tortured and executed publicly and while the people were watching the procedure other pickpockets were freely working in the crowd. Punishment has no deterrent value for humans, human society only works on intelligent and sensible regulation that really makes sense and not on dumb law.
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Spidapig24Sep. 13, 2011 - 03:09PM JST

Good to see that they are finally getting tough on this the current fines are obviously not making any impact on the problem.

Taj,

Good ideas, except, it seems to be too focused on breed.

just to clear something up for you, any dog of any breed can be labelled dangerous in Victoria. If it has bitten or shown aggressive tendencies then it can be labelled dangerous. And therefore subject to these restrictions. Restricted breeds are just that there are currently 5 breeds that are restricted.

I do however have an issue with the way the laws are handled. If for example someone jumps your fence and the dog bites them, they can lodge a complaint and in some cases the dog will be declared dangerous. I dont believe that in these cases dogs should be declared dangerous as they are merely doing what they have done for all time and that is protect their turf.
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AsagaoSep. 13, 2011 - 04:19PM JST

Sounds too emotional. Each case should be judged individually without public hysteria.
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LagunaSep. 13, 2011 - 05:43PM JST

Certainly, if a chihuahua rips out someone's throat, it should logically be considered dangerous, but that just never happens. Google "chihuahua" "maul" and the results will only show chihuahuas who have been mauled by - you guessed it! - pit bulls.

I think more people should own whippets.
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cleoSep. 13, 2011 - 07:32PM JST

I googled 'chihuahua attack' and came up with this - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10652469/ns/us_news-weird_news/t/pack-angry-chihuahuas-attacks-police-officer/#.Tm8ZdHPwMUc

A pack of angry Chihuahuas attacked a police officer who was escorting a teenager home after a traffic stop, authorities said. The officer suffered minor injuries, including bites to his ankle

I think more people should own whippets.

I think people should own whatever breed fits in with their lifestyle, unless their lifestyle includes terrorising the neighbourhood and/or organising fox hunts/dog fights in which case they should be banned from ever owning any kind of animal ever again.

Whippets are nice dogs, if the owner is willing/able to see that they get regular exercise and the chance to run free in a safe environment.
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LagunaSep. 13, 2011 - 09:22PM JST

Thanks, Cleo! Notice that it was a "pack" of "angry" chihuahuas (although, really, are there any other kind?), and that the officer suffered only "minor injuries" to his "ankle" (if they'd cooperated and piggybacked, they might have gotten up to his knee - or, God forbid, his groin!)

If it had been a pack of angry pit bulls, they'd have had to sweep up the remains with brooms.

I agree with your comments about dog ownership and lifestyle. It seems that too many people choose their dog based on appearance and not character. Research the character of various dogs and base your decision on that.
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Photoman333Sep. 13, 2011 - 09:31PM JST

We (my Buddhist Temple) have rescued many Staffordshire Terriers (the breed people call pit bulls) and our experience confirms what many folks have said - they are not fighters at birth. They have to be trained to be vicious (by vicious trainers). We have placed may of them in homes where they are doing fine. I must say, though, that they often don't get along with other dogs...
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cleoSep. 13, 2011 - 09:38PM JST

It seems that too many people choose their dog based on appearance and not character.

Or according to fashion, which is a really stupid way of choosing a dog.

Chihuahuas - don't know that I've ever met a happy laid-back one. They may only be little, but they're still dogs and don't deserve to be treated like dress-up dolls and pushed into a handbag. If I were a Chihuahua I reckon I'd be pretty angry.
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Darren BrannanSep. 13, 2011 - 09:44PM JST

I went home recently and it seems that every muppet that has a massive big four wheel drive car has an equally massive rottweiler,pitbull or mastiff.Walking past yards I had these muscular beats throw themselves at aluminium fences so hard to get at me that they dented the fences...one dog got out (my next door neighbour) and kept creeping up behind me wanting to take a nip)..he eventually did have a nip at a lady who was walking past. I am a dog lover and can accept that many of this breed can be placid, but the morons and testeronally challenged out there turn them into fearsome beasts.There are way too many aggressive dogs that spend every minute of every day locked up in back yards.Timebombs.I wouldn't advocate killing peoples pets but I think certain breeds should be banned from suburban areas and only allowed on farms (at best) from hereon.I agree with this policy.
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ExportExpertSep. 13, 2011 - 09:44PM JST

Photoman333

Staffordshire Terriers (the breed people call pit bulls

Staffie and pitbull are not the same dog
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Darren BrannanSep. 13, 2011 - 09:52PM JST

I remember an old bloke (ex farmer) across the street..used to walk his old bloodhound around and carried an old stockwhip which he used to gently flick near his dog to keep him on track.Saw them walking everyday...one day the old dog had a nip at a young kid and drew blood, so old Jack took his dog straight to the Vets and had him put down.Jack died not long after.Sad story but he did the right thing.These days these young blokes leave their big dogs at home all day and never walk them and it is almost like neglect..it is a macho thing.