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zurcronium at 11:16 PM JST - 7th July
Fox news turns on Palin now, calling her a flake. Once again the liberals lead the way and the conservatives, at least the sane ones, follow.
Even Fox News has started to turn on Sarah Palin. In the midst of a segment about the Alaska Governor's battle against "liberal" attacks, Liz Trotta went off-message.
Frankly, "the woman is inarticulate, undereducated," Trotta said, arguing that for once liberal criticism was "well-deserved."
"I think all the liberal stylists ... really have a case. She just begs for adjectives like flaky and wacky." When pressed, she added, "We're talking about somebody who, right from the get-go, has been a flashy person who gets into a lot of trouble and really has no credentials for any job."
Game, Set, Match Liberals. Goodbye Failin Palin. The republicants need to find someone new, if there is anyone left, to fly the kamikazi flight in 2012 against the towering and successful Obama.
I am so grateful to the senile McCain, who I voted for in 2000 when he was still lucid, for picking Palin as VP. Just one more nail in the republican coffin that bush built and pretty much finished on his own.
BeaverCleaver at 11:18 PM JST - 7th July
yabits, as I posted elsewhere, conservatives have major trouble with NPOV. Nobody is perfect with regards to that, but nobody does family bias like a conservative. They do it like there is no tomorrow. Thank goodness for the internet and modern recording technology, because its hard to remember all the hypocrisy, in fact, I prefer to forget lest it make me bitter! But thanks to modern tech, I can call it all up fast and not have to drag it around whereever I go.
"For some reason J.T isn't allowing my links to work."
Thank you for trying Sailwind, but I believe you. No need for the link. You are a man of your word. That does not mean I believe every word, as we all make mistakes, but if you say you did it and said you checked it, I believe you did. No sweat.
"I'd say right after 9/11 most people were showing their love for our flag and country"
I would agree that they were trying. (Very trying in fact!) But they got caught up in the moment and they lost their sense. That is my core problem. Sense is paramount for a leader, even if its the leader of a small town, but particularly an ambitious one. Sure, she did not know the future then, but I guarantee you she was dreaming big, and would say odds are that ambition was more than half of her reason for using the flag like a blanket.
sailwind at 11:22 PM JST - 7th July
Had a picture of Michelle Obama surfaced where she was caught wearing the flag as a robe, many conservatives would be showing outrage.
I hardly doubt if the situation were reversed and Michelle Obama felt to express her love for her country right after 9/11, the same way as Sarah Palin did there would be any difference in the showing of any real outrage by anybody left or right.
There wasn't any showing of real outrage when this picture ran in Newsweek last year by the left or the right almost all Americans can understand it and the reasons behind it. This isn't a Democrat thing and it isn't a Republican thing it is an American thing.
Now that we all know the whole story behind the picture and the circumstances that it was taken under, your trying to turn this into some partisan debate to prove your political point comes off at least to me as petty. Good luck with getting most Americans riled up over a picture of Sarah Palin wearing a flag right after 9/11 as some sort major sin.
If she or Michelle would have done something like that during the election campaign or to score some political advantage, I'd be right with you Yabits on the condemnation. Right after 9/11, I would think all Americans would and should get a pass on how they expressed their unity as one people.
It's the reason this photo was never touched by the Obama campaign to use agaisnt her. They were smart enough to know it would backfire, you might want to learn from that and move on to a different line of attack.
BeaverCleaver at 11:28 PM JST - 7th July
Zurc-"I am so grateful to the senile McCain, who I voted for in 2000 when he was still lucid"
In the primaries? I would have voted for him myself if he had made it to the race.
"The republicants need to find someone new, if there is anyone left, to fly the kamikazi flight in 2012 against the towering and successful Obama."
Don't be so sure. The Republicans are correct in stating that the economy will be an issue. Obama has been painted as "the magic negro" ( the mysterious black man who comes to the aid of the troubled white character in so many movies) but it is going to take a lot of magic to turn this plummetting bus around. My view is that nobody could do it. Nobody. But if the economy of Alaska booms for whatever reason, they will credit Palin in some way or another. A lot can happen in 3 and half years. Palin regaining credibility is possible. The nation's economy turning around? I don't think so. And the fickle public will look for someone to blame if the economy does not turn around. Just you wait and see.
zurcronium at 11:37 PM JST - 7th July
BeaverCleaver,
Yes, in the primaries as I knew Bush was a disaster back then. It after South Carolina where Bush said that McCain had a black baby so my vote was wasted.
Palin will not get credit for Alaska economy in any way. That is all linked to the price of oil which is set at international level.
Agree that economy is job one for Obama and he knows it. He has a tough job to do but most signs indicate currently that things are leveling off and in some areas even improving. If the economy turns around then the election is over, if its still muddled then it will still be very tough for the republicants as their party is a mess right now. Their brand is in the toilet thanks to Ensign, Sanford and Palin. Americans know that the current depression is owned by the republicans as well. Only white retired far right males care about the republican party right now.
yabits at 11:41 PM JST - 7th July
Just wait and see. Sarah will be turned into a martyr for the cause. It wasn't her own lack of wordly smarts or kookiness that did her in -- traits well-documented and noted by many a conservative commentator -- it was liberal hatred and vilification.
I believe her rambling resignation speech -- which reminded me of the whacked-out monologue given by the character "Barbara Jean" in Altman's movie, Nashville -- was very revealing in another aspect: The image of the "point guard" looking for someone to pass the ball to when the heat of a full-court press is on. Hey, honey, when you are the leader, the buck stops with YOU when the pressure is on. You don't look for someone to pass it along to.
yabits at 11:59 PM JST - 7th July
Beaver, I am going to respectfully differ with you on that. I don't believe it was ambition that drove her at that moment, although she is a very, very ambitious person. You've got to be to give up a governorship for no apparent reason other than a "higher calling." As one conservative commentator noted: "You don't hold press conferences in order to raise important questions; you hold them to answer the questions."
No, the reason she draped that flag around her was because she felt it was perfectly OK to do that. When a person's OWN view of their motivations comes with so much self-righteousness, it is nothing for them to take a venerated object and treat it in a way that normally would not be seen as showing respect for it. After all, everyone should know how much I love America, and so it won't be anything for me to wrap a flag around myself and parade in public with it.
Sarah's actions don't bother me as much as those of the Republicans who appear to throw rules and conventions to the wind as long as their ends and purposes are being achieved.
yabits at 12:08 AM JST - 8th July
I don't have a big problem with Sarah or Michelle draping a flag around themselves. (But I know that neither are showing proper respect for the flag when they do so.) I have a problem with people who think they are the voice of God who can condemn one person for doing it under any number of circumstances, but give a pass to another person.
I would expect someone who claims to love America a lot to understand what proper respect for the flag means, and is able to control themselves at all times regarding its handling.
goodDonkey at 03:45 AM JST - 8th July
So let me get this straight. When it was a photoshopped pic of Sarah Palin draped in the flag of the United States of America it was disrespectful to the flag. But since it was real she did it in the right context. No disrespect to the flag.
Liberals call Sarah Palin a dolt and they are haters. sailwind calls the Obama administration "idiots" but he is not a hater. sailwind called the Obama administration "idiots" in the right context.
It seems like you can get away with just about anything if you do it in the right context. The problem with liberals is they refuse to do things in the right context.
Taka313 at 05:06 AM JST - 8th July
Well...my mild case of a bad taste in my mouth regarding sarah palin just got a little worse:
Having read that, it's time for sarah to sit back with a big 'ol frothing cup of STFU about being picked on. She's just making an ass of herself.
Taka
Sarge at 07:23 AM JST - 8th July
"Even Fox News has started to turn on Sarah Palin"
Fox News has conservative and liberal commentators. Didn't you know that?
"sarah palin"
"She's just making an ass of herself"
No, you're just making an ass of yourself by refusing to capitalize her name in a pathetic attempt to belittle the woman.
Taka313 at 09:54 AM JST - 8th July
yeah,
whatever..."elroy."
Taka
JoeBigs at 07:59 AM JST - 9th July
I get it, nice joke!LOL
For a second I thought you were serious. But then I realized that it's Apri.(Corrects computer's clock)..Opps...Wow, you really believe that!LOL
Well actually they have.....take a nice little gander at this interview..
Undereducated loved that comment, but she, NAILED IT!LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/fox-news-contributor-ripsn226370.html
Poor William F Buckley must be doing cartwheels in his grave knowing that the far right has gone this loon......LOL
zurcronium at 12:10 PM JST - 10th July
here is your higher calling, its called greed for the easy, easy money. The rubes on this board who support palin will pay to read her books or see her on palin lost . . .
The former fiance of Gov. Sarah Palin's 18-year-old daughter says he thinks he knows why the Alaska governor is resigning — concerns over money. Levi Johnston, 19, whose wedding to Bristol Palin was called off earlier this year, says he believes the governor is resigning over personal finances. Johnston says he lived with the Palin family from early December to the second week in January. He claims he heard the governor several times say how nice it would be to take advantage of the lucrative deals that were being offered, including a reality show and a book."I think the big deal was the book. That was millions of dollars," said Johnston, who has had a strained relationship with the family but now says things have improved. Palin has a book deal, but compensation details haven't been disclosed. The governor has said she is facing more than $500,000 in legal fees.
ca1ic0cat at 01:06 AM JST - 11th July
She finally listened to the smarter people who told her that she should go hide somewhere for a while? Her daughter's bf sez she likes the book contract money better than being gov.
Maybe the media will give up on Palin and MJ too?