see where you're coming from, and appreciate the moderate tone, but the answer's no. Most of us probably realize that the continents within the same part of the hemisphere (between east/west, that is) are the Americas.
Sorry, I got lost. But I was pointing out that the "mistake" made by Palin can be made by the U.S. people whe they say "America" when they are really saying "The U.S. of America", to level up the speeches...
Geographically, one cannot forgive a VP candidate saying that of course,it is a thing taught in 3-4th year or elementary school
Joice: I got what you were saying. It's still not quite the same thing (by the way, what I was saying is that there's not really an 'America' continent, there are two, known as the Americas; North and South, with some governments recognizing Central America as it's own kind of entity, even though not technically a continent)
January 22, 2012. Retiring to her study, President Palin prepares her agenda for the next day.
First: schedule invite with the President of Africa;
Second: sale at Neiman-Marcus;
Third: get Charlie Gibson fired;
Fourth: schedule round table with Prime Minister of South America;
Fifth: call Joe Biden for botox advice.
I myself have met many people who didn't attend "fancy schools" and yet have first-rate minds. By the same token, I would not be happy in a workplace devoid of colleagues who appreciate how book learnin' can enrich your life.
The problem for the GOP is that it has made a Faustian bargain with evangelical Christians in exchange for their support (which was critical to GWB's two electoral victories). The religious right, as John McCain found out, vets candidates for their views on a host of issues which traditional conservatives such as Barry Goldwater would have deemed irrelevant to governance.
As a consequence, those who advance up the ranks, such as Sarah Palin, are seen as qualified by virtue of their willingness to promote the approved theology. That's why she drew enormous crowds comprised of people who were probably far less concerned with whether she knew Africa was a continent and not a country than the fact she opposes abortion on all grounds.
The cost of this has been high (both to aspiring national leaders and the country). A Republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger, who does not subscribe to this agenda but has been effective as a Governor of the state with the sixth largest economy in the world, finds the path to national office effectively blocked.
As both George Will and Christopher Buckley are acutely aware, this transformation of the GOP has resulted in its being "dumbed down," as well representing a diversion from the principles of conservatism.
The NY TImes is reporting that "Palin's Appeal Proves Durable"
"...the big question for Gov. Sarah Palin has been whether her backers would remain enthusiastic over the long run.
"As it turns out, over the past few days, about 1,000 people have donated tens of thousands of dollars to Our Country Deserves Better, a political action committee that is planning a pro-Palin advertisement later this month.
“We thought it would be appropriate to have the thank-you ad run around Thanksgiving,” said Joe Wiezbicki, the PAC’s coordinator. The group expects to shoot on Monday and raise “a couple hundred thousand dollars” to buy airtime nationally."
I have no doubt Governor Palin's supporters will continue to back her. The only skeleton in the closet might be contained in her medical rocords, which she never released despite claims she would. Regardless, there are not enough of them to put her in national office. The "big tent" Republican Party which Karl Rove anticipated would create a "permanent Republican majority" has collapsed.
Sooo, it's really up to Republicans on how they should proceed. One, Andrew Sullivan who voted for GWB in 2000, writes on his blog:
The impulsive, unvetted selection of a total unknown, with no knowledge of or interest in the wider world, as a replacement president remains one of the most disturbing events in modern American history ... That the Palin absurdity should follow the two-term presidency of another individual utterly out of his depth in national government is particularly troubling ... Until we figure out how this happened, we will not be able to prevent it from happening again...
Her candidacy, in short, was indefensible. It remains indefensible. Until the mainstream media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intelligentsia acknowledge the depth of their error, this blog will keep demanding basic accountability … There comes a point at which you have to simply call a time out and insist that this farce cease and some basic accountability and transparency be restored to the process.
Dare I say it- she is a more horrific prospect to me as US president than Bush is.
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You've done so much with your degree, What State are you Governor of?
Excuse me, Sailwind, without having a clue what I do - personally I would want someone I feel is smarter and more qualified than I am to be my leader and make decisions for the country, not someone on my level or of uncertain ability. And my comment was more to her extremely right wing fundamental beliefs that I cannot believe a nation (or at least half of one) can support in a leader.
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JoiceRojo at 12:36 AM JST - 14th November
Sorry, I got lost. But I was pointing out that the "mistake" made by Palin can be made by the U.S. people whe they say "America" when they are really saying "The U.S. of America", to level up the speeches... Geographically, one cannot forgive a VP candidate saying that of course,it is a thing taught in 3-4th year or elementary school
smithinjapan at 12:56 AM JST - 14th November
Joice: I got what you were saying. It's still not quite the same thing (by the way, what I was saying is that there's not really an 'America' continent, there are two, known as the Americas; North and South, with some governments recognizing Central America as it's own kind of entity, even though not technically a continent)
usaexpat at 01:03 AM JST - 14th November
A woman on the ticket other than her might help. If she's pitching a Palin run for president forget about it.
76waystofly at 02:03 AM JST - 14th November
January 22, 2012. Retiring to her study, President Palin prepares her agenda for the next day.
First: schedule invite with the President of Africa; Second: sale at Neiman-Marcus; Third: get Charlie Gibson fired; Fourth: schedule round table with Prime Minister of South America; Fifth: call Joe Biden for botox advice.
goodDonkey at 02:23 AM JST - 14th November
76waystofly
I think Palin wants to squeeze in an appointment with the French Prime Minister, Nicholas Sarkozy, at a Canadian radio station.
Madverts at 02:31 AM JST - 14th November
(yawn)....hasn't she bogged off back to Alaska and obscurity yet?
Heh, won't be long, "sarah".
Taka313 at 02:39 AM JST - 14th November
And if it were somoene like Olympia Snowe, it would be.
palin...not so much.
Taka
Taka313 at 02:40 AM JST - 14th November
Shoot!
I forgot to mention, Altria, you are on an absolute roll on this thread!
Taka
Helter_Skelter at 03:42 AM JST - 14th November
Betzee
Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Betzee at 05:10 AM JST - 14th November
I myself have met many people who didn't attend "fancy schools" and yet have first-rate minds. By the same token, I would not be happy in a workplace devoid of colleagues who appreciate how book learnin' can enrich your life.
The problem for the GOP is that it has made a Faustian bargain with evangelical Christians in exchange for their support (which was critical to GWB's two electoral victories). The religious right, as John McCain found out, vets candidates for their views on a host of issues which traditional conservatives such as Barry Goldwater would have deemed irrelevant to governance.
As a consequence, those who advance up the ranks, such as Sarah Palin, are seen as qualified by virtue of their willingness to promote the approved theology. That's why she drew enormous crowds comprised of people who were probably far less concerned with whether she knew Africa was a continent and not a country than the fact she opposes abortion on all grounds.
The cost of this has been high (both to aspiring national leaders and the country). A Republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger, who does not subscribe to this agenda but has been effective as a Governor of the state with the sixth largest economy in the world, finds the path to national office effectively blocked.
As both George Will and Christopher Buckley are acutely aware, this transformation of the GOP has resulted in its being "dumbed down," as well representing a diversion from the principles of conservatism.
powderfinger at 09:17 AM JST - 14th November
The NY TImes is reporting that "Palin's Appeal Proves Durable"
"...the big question for Gov. Sarah Palin has been whether her backers would remain enthusiastic over the long run.
"As it turns out, over the past few days, about 1,000 people have donated tens of thousands of dollars to Our Country Deserves Better, a political action committee that is planning a pro-Palin advertisement later this month.
“We thought it would be appropriate to have the thank-you ad run around Thanksgiving,” said Joe Wiezbicki, the PAC’s coordinator. The group expects to shoot on Monday and raise “a couple hundred thousand dollars” to buy airtime nationally."
NY Times Friday, November 14, 2008 Politics
Betzee at 10:40 AM JST - 14th November
I have no doubt Governor Palin's supporters will continue to back her. The only skeleton in the closet might be contained in her medical rocords, which she never released despite claims she would. Regardless, there are not enough of them to put her in national office. The "big tent" Republican Party which Karl Rove anticipated would create a "permanent Republican majority" has collapsed.
Sooo, it's really up to Republicans on how they should proceed. One, Andrew Sullivan who voted for GWB in 2000, writes on his blog:
The impulsive, unvetted selection of a total unknown, with no knowledge of or interest in the wider world, as a replacement president remains one of the most disturbing events in modern American history ... That the Palin absurdity should follow the two-term presidency of another individual utterly out of his depth in national government is particularly troubling ... Until we figure out how this happened, we will not be able to prevent it from happening again...
Her candidacy, in short, was indefensible. It remains indefensible. Until the mainstream media, the GOP establishment, and the conservative intelligentsia acknowledge the depth of their error, this blog will keep demanding basic accountability … There comes a point at which you have to simply call a time out and insist that this farce cease and some basic accountability and transparency be restored to the process.
stanoue at 03:19 PM JST - 14th November
Dare I say it- she is a more horrific prospect to me as US president than Bush is.
> You've done so much with your degree, What State are you Governor of?
Excuse me, Sailwind, without having a clue what I do - personally I would want someone I feel is smarter and more qualified than I am to be my leader and make decisions for the country, not someone on my level or of uncertain ability. And my comment was more to her extremely right wing fundamental beliefs that I cannot believe a nation (or at least half of one) can support in a leader.
Nessie at 04:03 PM JST - 14th November
There you go again quoting socialists to back up your points again, Betz. Oh, wait. Did you say Republican? Never mind.
sailwind at 04:06 PM JST - 14th November
Agreed I thought Reagan was one heck of a President myself also.