Patience tested over waste, crime at Occupy protest sites
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smartacus
The cold winter weather should settle the matter soon enough. Most of the protesters will not be sticking around in New York parks once they start shivering
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taj
Good to hear that the neighborhood around Zucotti park is looking to work with the protestors in a constructive way. I hope (and expect) donors can quickly be found to cover the cost of port-a-potties, if a place (places) can be found to put them. And I trust there are enough sensible people within the protest to help keep the more excitable onces quiet during the neighborhood's requested quiet times.
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JeremiahW
quote: City officials in Oakland had initially been supportive of the protesters, with Mayor Jean Quan saying that sometimes “democracy is messy.” But tensions reached a boiling point after a sexual assault, a severe beating and a fire were reported and paramedics were denied access to the camp, according to city officials.
I will still end pizza money to my peeps in Oaktown.
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sailwind
Article fails to mention that the Mayor of Oakland is a Democrat, The Mayor of Providence is a Democrat and the Mayor of Philidelphia is a Democrat. Don't blame them though for taking some pretty heavy measures to boot them out though.
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taj
Sailwind, is their party affiliation relevant? (I do dislike the constant black and white, bipolarisation of everything that comes from America's '2-party only' system). I think the majority of people are starting to realize that the differences between the parties are not as large as the differences within the parties, and that the biggest differences are between the rich and the rest.
(But, admittedly, I'm Canadian and I see in colour).
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sailwind
I also see in color. Prominent Democrats and their traditional union supporters have voiced their support to this movement. Our mainstream media in the U.S has a left wing bias and when it comes to reporting you will get a left slant. Party affiliation is important in the context of the whole movement. Reporting on the the Tea Party movement almost never fails to mention that it is primarly Republican party backers in nature in an article. Why the exception in this case or any other articles on the OWS movement? Bias.
An objective article would have included party affiliation to let people decide for themselves if Democrats really do support the movement after all.
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unreconstructed
Obama's former friend and mentor Bill Ayers was in on the Occupy Chicago effort. There are vids of him on YouTube dating from last week, showing the failed domestic terrorist Ayers recounting for a crowd of young sentimental Marxist idiots his meetings with the North Vietnamese back in the 60s and his demented hopes of once again fomenting revolution in America.
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unreconstructed
I hope the 'protests' continue. The more they come to resemble the mindless and violent revolts of the 60s the more Americans see that era for what it really was and the damage it did to the nation. Likewise, Obama's failed presidency has been one long lesson in how European-style socialism will not work in America. There is a connection.
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unreconstructed
Even the NY Times notes that the people playing protester are mostly whiny white 'liberals'
"Updated, 3:32 p.m. | Two weeks into Occupy Wall Street’s takeover of Zuccotti Park, a group of Bronx community organizers and friends rode the subway down to Lower Manhattan to check out a movement they supported in principle.
"When they got there, they recalled, they found what they had suspected: a largely white and middle-class crowd that claimed to represent "the 99 percent" but bore little resemblance to most of the people in the group's own community. That community, the South Bronx, is one of the poorest areas of the country and home almost exclusively to blacks and Hispanics.
' "Nobody looked like us," said Rodrigo Venegas, 31, co-founder of Rebel Diaz Arts Collective, a center for political activism and hip-hop run out of a warehouse in Mott Haven. "It was white, liberal, young people who for the first time in their life are feeling a small percentage of what black and brown communities have been feeling for hundreds of years." '
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/occupy-wall-street-struggles-to-make-the-99-look-like-everybody/?hp
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unreconstructed
As of today over 2,800 'protesters' arrested, in different cities across the country. Drugs, assault, rape, prostitution. It's not a political movement, it's a crime spree.
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