NATO forces free 20 hostages; pirates seize Belgian ship
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Sarge
Question: If every pirate involved with attacking vessels or kidnapping had his tongue cut out, would there still be people becoming pirates?
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WilliB
...and now for the second part of this absurd drama:
The Dutch authorities will now have to decide what to do with the captured Somalis. They can not kill them, they can not let them go, and they can not hand them over to the Somali authorities (such as there are), because Somalia has the death penalty. So, the 7 pirates will immediately apply for asylum in Holland, will be taken there, and for the rest of their life live on generous Dutch welfare. Of course, they will also bring their extended families to Holland.
I am not making this up; European countries keep jumbo jets ready in Kenya for precisely this scenario.
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bushlover
They can turn them over to an International court to be tried for Piracy then sentenced accordingly. Gitmo would be a good place for a sentence.
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WilliB
Bushlover:
The international court is in the same conundrum. Because the Western countries impose their own humanitarian ideals even on medieval pirate thugs, they can not deport them to anywhere where their tender lives might be in danger... which includes the hellholes they operate from.
So, they get plonked into Western welfare system, which is a "punishment" worth killing for. Throw them in the Briar´s patch!
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elbudamexicano
What happens at sea, stays at sea I always say. Start taking out these mother ships for the pirates, blow them the hell out of the water, no one will ever know right? The Japanese navy should not let NATO and the US get all the credit, they should hurry and join the fun!
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Triumvere
The "Handytankers Magic"?!
Now, thats a boat name. No wonder the pirates got all excited!
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DXXJP
I cant believe they took a Yemeni boat. All the Yemenis I have seen were packing ak47's and big curved knives in there waist. Hell even the little kids were packing. What they have to check their gear in before they embark?.
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JoeBigs
Why waste the time, just execute them and dump their bodies into the ocean. Keep doing that until they get the picture. If they execute the hostages then bomb their homes.
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grafton
The Somalis have had their toys (guns) taken from them & been released because they are not Dutch, they had not attack anyone that is Dutch & they were not in Dutch waters, so said the Dutch navy. Really if this wasn’t so serious it would be funny. So far I think only the Indians have shown the best way to go. They just sink things. Yes, alright there was the small technical detail that the ship they sank was innocent, but it shows that their thinking was in the right place.
And does anybody really believe that part of the story that says the Yemeni’s were forced to help the pirates? It might be true, but I really don’t believe they took an awful lot of forcing.
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toguro
I wonder why the pirates dn't try to take one of the naval ships that are trying to disrupt their livelihood, don't they think they can get more in ransom money from foreign governments for the return of their nval ships?
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Triumvere
Uhhh, 'cause the naval ships shoot back, maybe?
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LFRAgain
Arm the ships. It's a simple as that.
From a cost-benefit standpoint, it works out infinitely cheaper to place armed security contingents on each ship that has to pass through the stretch of water that the pirates patrol than the -2-3-day's detour and $40,000 a day it costs ships to bypass the area altogether.
Arm the ships. It's well past time for that.
DXXJP,
Ignorant, infantile stereotypes don't really contribute much to the to the discussion.
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timorborder
Bit of a bxmmer about these pirates being released after being captured. The thug in me would have no qualms about slotting each one of them and dropping the bodies in the ocean. Just a quick one in the back of the head and it would be all over. Nothing vicious just business. Sorry about that. I doubt if my pulse would even race.
Then again, the key difference between pirate bands and military organizations is that military organizations have SOPs which dictate their actions in all situations. As such, until such time as SOPs allow for the retention (or worse) of such undesirables, releasing them is the only option because freelancing ala Abu Graib is unacceptable.
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toguro
Triumvere: You obviously didn't get that I was being sarcastic, or maybe you did.
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WilliB
Elbudo:
It is nice that you say so. However, our ever politically correct Western governments do not say so. So get ready to support plenty of captured Somali pirates with your tax money, for the rest of their lives.
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Madverts
"our ever politically correct Western governments do not say so"
True. The only answer, extreme as it may be, is a swift bullet to the back of the head and over-board. Isn't that how we dealt with piracy all those years ago?
Wasn't it effective?
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WilliB
Madverts:
That maybe the "only answer" in your simplistic world view. In real life, a simple possibility would be to confiscate the weapons and boats and let the Somali pirates wade ashore at their home beaches.
However, our oh-so-sensitive Western governments won´t allow that, preferring to invite them into our society at our expense.
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grafton
We keep getting this idea of giving arms to the crews of merchant ships but it isn’t going to happen, firstly these ships do sometimes (surprise, surprise) put into port & most ports have very strict rules about NOT allowing ships to have weapons on them. There is also the small problem of the crews, they are paid rubbish money now for doing a basic job & just look at the nationalities involved. These are just labourers at sea & I can’t really see them wanting to take on the extra responsibility being armed defenders of the ships they work on with out a substantial pay rise, which they are not going to get. Paid guards on the ships would be fine if the ships were allowed to keep weapons on them in port, but they not & the only answer to that is transferring guards from ship to ship at sea & that is ridiculous, it just isn’t going to happen.
Given the distances involved naval protection is only ever going to be patchy, better to follow the pirates & make their home lives very uncomfortable. There is no government to speak of in the country so there isn’t likely to be much in the way of objection & the French have done it before.
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Madverts
"That maybe the "only answer" in your simplistic world view"
Hmmm, this from the bloke who once clamed Europe would be under sharia law by 2050 and who's every post on JT pertains to the Islamic conspiracy, right down to your claims that even Somali pirates are jihadists.....pirating to fund al-Qaeda.
But today, you're advocating letting the "jihadists" float back to shore?
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teleprompter
Nobody messes with Belgium.
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