Friday February 17, 2012

Polygamist sect hearing in Texas descends into farce; hundreds of lawyers raise objections

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    adaydream

    This was a frame-up/set-up to get inside the FLDS ranch and a way for a bunch of Texans to attempt to close up/break-up the FLDS.

    Now the state of Texas will screw up the lives of 416 lives. The cost will be enormous. The state will have to cough up the money to pay some 416 lawyers at least to defend these children's against the state of Texas.

    Hell you got kids that won't reveal their names or who their parents are.

    This bunch of Texas zealots will ruin the lives of 416, break up families, break up brothers and sisters for a frame-up.

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    Everton2

    Something had to be done. What we had was a bunch of men running what amounts to be a harem. The women obeying the men without question while offering up there under age daughters to these pedophile men. It was just pathetic state of affair where the men can have as many wifes as they like, sleep with any female in the community regardless of age. The children are better off where they are now

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    timeon

    I find it ironic that, while criticizing the "fanatic islam fundamentalists", we forget about the wackos in our own garden. I agree that something must have been done, even if I don't think the authorities took the best course of action.

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    sabiwabi

    Something had to be done. What we had was a bunch of men running what amounts to be a harem...

    Everton2, I don't know how to break it to you, but you shouldn't believe everything you hear on TV or read in the papers.

    I suspect they have other reasons to break up this group. Its awful that they will screw up so many lives, but at least they'll be better off than those who were massacred at Waco. The media also distorted that one.

    I agree with timeon that we often "forget about the wackos in our own garden". Yes, our wackos happen to be in power.

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    skipthesong

    Now the state of Texas will screw up the lives of 416 lives" I can't believe you guys.. didn't it occur to you that these lives were already screwed up before they were born. This religion has no place in the modern world.

    I find it ironic that, while criticizing the "fanatic islam fundamentalists", we forget about the wackos in our own garden." In a way you are correct, but at least these nut cases stayed away from everyone and wasn't trying to convert. They don't deserve to be parents anyway

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    SuperLib

    I can't say I know much about this group, but from what I've seen about the members in interviews I can say that they just don't seem normal to me. And that's about the best I can describe it.

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    medievaltimes

    Believing in and being brain washed by a cult results in a disaster(s). Look at Aum Shinrikyo, Peoples Temple, Heaven's Gate case etc. In this sense, I am worried by this JapanToday sponsored by the Church of Scientology. The media should not be influenced by a religious group, or at least we as readers of JapanToday need a public comment this media is free from any religious influence.

    Kemiko- what are you talking about???

    1-As long as they are not breaking their respective countries laws, they can worship as they wish. The issue is if they are or are not breaking the law. Thats why they are in court.

    2-Even if JapanToday is sponsored by Church of Scientology so what? If you dont getting your news here, go somewhere else. Let the people decide where they want to get their information. Its called freedom.

    3-The media IS influenced by religious groups. However, religious groups ARE ALSO influenced by media. This is called sociology. Everything influences everything in a way. But, it is UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL TO DECIDE what they want to believe. For example, if CNN runs a story saying that there is a magic goat that lives on Mars and it is the messiah and I should worship it as such...I can choose to do this, or I can choose to ignore it...and so can you.

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    sabiwabi

    The media should not be influenced by a religious group

    I don't think an advertisement mean so much. I would be more worried about religious or other influences in the media that are hidden, not the ones that are advertised.

    But coming back to this case, if something is suspected to have happened among this group, why can't they simply investigate without breaking up these families. This whole thing seems a bot too fishy to me. I wonder what the real reason for all this is, they don't seem to be truly concerned for the welfare of the children.

    By the way, are the male children also suspected of having been abused? Why have they been taken away?

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    GrouchyGaijin

    We have made all of the rules up. And we can change them too. The laws of Texas, properly understood, are very democratic. It's the loop-de-loos in power there, and in DC who twist them for their own ends. And folks, April 20 is fast approaching. Texas in particular, and the USA in general has a habit of showing us horror, murders, mass suicides etc. etc. to commemorate the birthday of everybody's favorite Austrian: Adolf Hitler. Last I looked the US Constitution provided for very clear separation of church (any church...not only christian) and the state. Freedom of religion means just that. Child endangerment is a different issue. So, "W" you still talkin' to Gawd? Who'd he tell you to bomb this time?

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    kinniku

    they don't seem to be truly concerned for the welfare of the children.

    What are you basing this opinion on?

    By the way, are the male children also suspected of having been abused? Why have they been taken away?

    It wouldn't matter of the male children had been abused or not. If there was suspected abuse in the home, they would be removed for there own safety.

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    Zaphod

    Timeon:

    >I find it ironic that, while criticizing the "fanatic islam fundamentalists", we forget about the wackos in our own garden.

    Try the other way around: While the law pounces on these domestic whackos, muslims practise polygamy unimpeded, and introduce it as the law of the land where they can. (Remember, polygamy is gods will, laid down in the Sharia.)

    So, you got that one upside down.**

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    rjd_jr

    You are absolutely right, timeon. I find it interesting all the stereotypes and ignorance against Muslims and other countries/cultures here on JT, yet the biggest terrorists and religious fanatics in the U.S. aren't Muslims. Lots of these home grown fanatics pose a greater threat.

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    skipthesong

    (Remember, polygamy is gods will, laid down in the Sharia.)" As well as marriage to 8 year olds (Japan Times April 19th). Now, getting back to the main subject, the authorities are going to do DNA testing to make sure kids are actually with their parents as there are accusations of kids being taken from one women and being raise by another wife. This is nuts...

    I really wish there would be a big push to rid the world of religion. Until that time, the world is going to be in a constant fight.

    Have any of you seen these women on T.V.? They are weird!

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