Protest brews over Cheney center at Univ of Wyoming

Wednesday 09th September, 05:48 AM JST

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seijichuudo9sha at 05:30 PM JST - 9th September

What international students go to the U of Wyoming?Probably just Canucks.
RomeoRamenII at 06:03 PM JST - 9th September

A great American being honored for his service to his country.

Pelican is an extension educator

Heh, must be a sex ed. teacher.
smithinjapan at 06:47 PM JST - 9th September

skipthesong: "Granted, not at this time, but it has been spoken AND tried and one of those supporters was my father!!!"

Again, skip, no offense to your dad, but I think it would best serve your arguments if you left the baggage at the door. This is about a building that will probably be renamed based on donations from a person who amounts to a war criminal; not about the non-existant building named after Che. My point was that you made the assumption that people protesting cheney wouldn't protest a building named after Che. Not only is there NOT such a building, but you shouldn't assume on behalf of anyone what they would support in a completely off-topic remark meant to undermine their personal beliefs simply because you have some interesting baggage you're carrying around.

seijichuudo: "What international students go to the U of Wyoming?Probably just Canucks."

Lame.

Ramen: "Heh, must be a sex ed. teacher."

Because of the word 'extension'? Even lamer.
yabits at 07:24 PM JST - 9th September

In an ironic way, I believe Che himself would heartily endorse the tribute to Cheney. After all, few people in public office have done more to betray and disrespect the constitution and their oath, and bring ever-greater discredit on the United States than Cheney.

In a recent interview with Fox News, Dick said he saw no problem with US interrogators exceeding the measures specified by the guidelines on torturing prisoners. I don't know who is more sick: Cheney, or the people who applaud him.
seijichuudo9sha at 08:05 PM JST - 9th September

"In an ironic way, I believe Che himself would heartily endorse the tribute to Cheney. After all, few people in public office have done more to betray and disrespect the constitution and their oath, and bring ever-greater discredit on the United States than Cheney."observes yabits.

You could be on to something.But then again,no.I don't really think so.In fact, what you wrote seems strained at best, silly at worst.
RomeoRamenII at 09:27 PM JST - 9th September

a petition that collected more than 150 signatures

Only 150 troofers could be rounded up? Man, I need sell my Alcoa stock.
RomeoRamenII at 09:36 PM JST - 9th September

Wonder whose signatures are on the petition? Van Jones? Sen. Stuart Smalley? Ted Kennedy?
yabits at 10:28 PM JST - 9th September

You could be on to something.

If you look at how readily Cheney obliged the goals of Al Qaeda, which wanted to get the US mired in the Middle East and ultimately drain it as a political and economic power, we are definitely onto something.
Molenir at 01:04 AM JST - 10th September

Whole thing is laughable. Cheney donates a large sum of money to the University, of course they're gonna name something after him. All things considered, these so called teachers haven't done nearly as much for the university as he did. Whats particularly embarassing is, that all they could get was the signatures of 150 people. Now thats just pathetic.

Calling Cheney a war criminal, and other idiotic names just doesn't matter. What matters is he that he was a respected public servant for more then 30 years, he donated a large sum of money to the institution, and that despite the moronic comments by Smith and others, he isn't a criminal.

You guys can look at it like this. Despite his the steaming pile of garbage his Presidency has become, Obama also will have stuff named after him. Though deserving, it likely won't be the latest sewage treatment plant, or the outhouse. The one served his country for years, and you hate him, the other spent 4 years as President and did everything he could to screw up his country, and you love him. See, it all balances out.
Chessnutroastin at 03:57 AM JST - 10th September

Only 150 signatures? Isn't that the entire population of Wyoming?
yabits at 04:06 AM JST - 10th September

[Cheney] isn't a criminal.

For a VP to publicly say that he wouldn't have problem with an executive branch employee breaking the laws regarding torture of suspects makes him a criminal by his own admission.

That's how far Cheney has taken the United States down the moral tubes: we're now a nation that has to set limits on how much torture can be applied, and even then Cheney doesn't mind to see them taken farther. He's about as right with the law as his spiritual mentor, that other "Dick," Dick Nixon.
Molenir at 04:41 PM JST - 10th September

For a VP to publicly say that he wouldn't have problem with an executive branch employee breaking the laws regarding torture of suspects makes him a criminal by his own admission.

Nonsense. Now if he had been the President, and had ordered someone to do something, or had deliberately looked away while it was done, then I might agree. However when a man who is serving as a VP, without any real power or authority, says something, it doesn't make him anything.
lostrune2 at 05:58 PM JST - 10th September

I wouldn't call Cheney a VP without any real power or authority. Good or bad, he revolutionized the VP position - probably the most powerful VP ever. He had tremendous influence in running the WH administration. Even Cheney himself admits it and is disparaged that now VP Biden is taking the position back to its historic levels.
Molenir at 06:26 PM JST - 10th September

He may have had influence, but legally, he had no authority. He was not the one making decisions. He may have been one of the Presidents closest advisors, but at the end of the day, Bush was the one with the final say. Sure he listened to Cheney early on, later he didn't. Just the way it goes. Regardless, him giving the President advice is not criminal. No more so then it is for some congressman who likewise has no authority to give the President advice.
yabits at 06:43 PM JST - 10th September

Now if he had been the President, and had ordered someone to do something, or had deliberately looked away while it was done, then I might agree.

Cheney is openly advocating and, by his position of influence and example, abetting the breaking of laws. Note also his declaration that he was free to disobey a presidential directive to executive branch employees, using the excuse that, as president of the Senate, his VP status also made him a member of the legislative branch.

The man is a scofflaw, an advocate of torture, and a crook. He betrays the letter and spirit of the constitution he swore to uphold, so that makes him a liar too.