Monday May 28, 2012

Bomb found on bus in Dublin ahead of British queen's historic visit to Ireland

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    ihavegreatlegs

    When I read the title, I thought they were talking about the ship. Glad to see she is going there.

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    luckygohappy

    I would not say the Queen needs to apologize, because it was not her doing, but if the first paragraphs out of her mouth are not abject crystal clear condemnation of Britian's brutal centuries of tyranny over Ireland, then she ought to stay home.

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    dontpanic

    Luckygohappy, Queen Elizabeth along with the UK and Irish governments is trying to move forward. I'd love to know how abject condemnation of anyone is going to achieve anything but a further reminder of the multiple reasons both sides have for exercising caution.

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    taj

    She'll be visiting 2 memorials to the Irish who died at the hands of brits - one, as mentioned above, for those who died fighting for independence, and another for the gaelic football fans group killed on Bloody Sunday, back in 1920. I trust the old charmer will come out with something fitting and appropriate.

    What surprised me in reading the above was the bit about Ireland expressing condolences on the death of Hitler and skipping out on WWII, entirely. My family had already emigrated by then and was involved from Canada, so I guess it just never came up.

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    hatsoff

    One of the queen’s first actions Tuesday will be to lay a wreath at a Dublin memorial honoring Ireland’s rebel dead, a surprisingly direct gesture toward Britain’s opponents in the bloody 1919-21 guerrilla war of independence

    That's a massive gesture, and very welcome, as was David Cameron's apology last year over Bloody Sunday (the result of an inquiry given the go-ahead by the much-maligned Tony Blair).

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    IvanCoughalot

    According to the British press, there have been two separate bomb scares already - one on a bus in Dublin, and a coded warning about a bomb in London. Looks like Blair's years of pandering to these terrorists were all for short-term gains (like everything else he tried) rather than any significant improvement. Send in the Black-and-Tans.

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    realist

    Im proud that my Queen is visiting the Irish Republic for the next 4 days. The entire island of Ireland was a part of the United Kingdom for centuries, and there have always been close links between the two main British Isles. Of course, there have been mistakes in the past, on both sides, but we must move on. I find it repulsive that the evil IRA dissidents are trying to disrupt the Visit, and also that people on here are mostly condemning the British. It takes 2 to tango. Irish Republicans have been responsible for some of the worst and most heinous terrorist atrocities over many decades, though they only emphasise British misdemeanors, which have been far fewer. The Queen today is Sovereign of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. She is greatly loved, and throughout her long life has served her people extremely well, just as she promised in her sacred Coronation Oaths. I am sure the decent Irish people in the southern part of the island will give her a warm Irish welcome. Failte to Ireland, Your Majesty!

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    hatsoff

    Looks like Blair's years of pandering to these terrorists were all for short-term gains (like everything else he tried) rather than any significant improvement. Send in the Black-and-Tans.

    Ha! Like your bravado :) But that's what started the whole mess in the first place, isn't it? And it's hardly an "insignificant improvement" in the peace process for Sinn Fein AND the DUP to be re-elected recently in the north. But in the spirit of your post, I say send in MI5 and the SAS instead.

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    IvanCoughalot

    Realist - hear, hear.

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    tigermoth

    The article alludes to Ireland remaining neutral during the Second World War, but it should be rightfully pointed out that many a proud Irishman served in HM Forces during the war. From men like Paddy Finucane in the Battle of Britain to the Irish Guards fighting in Holland and occupied Europe, they were not all welcoming Herr Hitler as the article sort of implies.

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    IvanCoughalot

    tigermoth - without a doubt, many an Irishman fought for the Crown, but neutrality was the official position of the Irish State. They wouldn't even refer to WWII as a war, calling it "The Emergency", and Hyde and De Valera actually conveyed official condolences to Nazi Germany upon news of Hitler's death. Despicable.

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    taj

    people on here are mostly condemning the British

    Oh it is the mightiest mix-up, That you have ever seen, Me father, he was orange, And me mother, she was green.

    (I'm half and foreign to both - no offence intended to either side.)

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