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Queen expresses 'deep sympathy' in speech in Ireland

World May. 19, 2011 - 06:06AM JST ( 13 )

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anglootakuMay. 19, 2011 - 10:15AM JST

Lets hope she means it, even though its good public relations, one cant forget colonial's past and destruction
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nandakandamandaMay. 19, 2011 - 10:30AM JST

An Irish friend told me he was brought up in a small Irish village believing that the Queen was the Devil.

He never thought to question it until he visited London as an adult.
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HikozaemonMay. 19, 2011 - 03:17PM JST

She could have tried a long overdue apology for abusive colonial rule in the name of the crown.
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VirtuosoMay. 19, 2011 - 06:18PM JST

He never thought to question it until he visited London as an adult.

And then what happened? Did he agree she was the Devil, or change his mind?
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lostrune2May. 19, 2011 - 07:03PM JST

Wait, did the Crown apologize for the US colonial rule yet?
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YongYangMay. 19, 2011 - 09:31PM JST

Constitutionally the monarchy can not apologize, they can express remorse, sympathy as done here, but the 'sorry(s)' are for the politicians. (I believe Blair apologized for the Potato Famine of the 1840s in 1997) I believe Lizzy was sincere, it was her grandfather who was the last British monarch to visit Ireland before the civil war, and so she was in effect condemning his actions too. Any movement forward with a recognition of past wrongs is good.
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KabukiloverMay. 19, 2011 - 09:37PM JST

The Queen expresses "deep sympathy" and everyone applauds. Pass the barf bag please.

The British lavished abuse, discrimination, atrocities and exploitation on the Irish for centuries before the liberation. And all that the royal spawn of generations of oppressors can offer is not even a tepid apology but her sympathies. The old woman adds only insult to centuries of injuries.

I suppose she meant well, as much as anyone could who has been ill-bred in a rarified royalist existence. But she did more harm than good.
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YongYangMay. 19, 2011 - 09:52PM JST

@Kabukilover and of course the English just went over to Ireland for no reason whatsoever... wasn't it the Irish who invited the Spanish to launch --if they wished-- an invasion from their shores? Wasn't it marauding Irish pirates of the tenth century who sided with Scots that helped to push English nationalism and self-determination to defend themselves? YOu see. every history has a history that is why your anger is so wasted whereas Lizzy's grace and wish to move forward while recognizing the past is the approach of mature adults. Saint Patrick himself was captured and enslaved by Irish pirates. So, move on is the way forward otherwise you end up having grown men killing and fighting and marching over wars in the 17th Century, circa 1690. Pretty sad.
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KabukiloverMay. 19, 2011 - 10:47PM JST

Well, YongYang the English cdertainly got their own back and then some. How about talking about something within more less recent memory. I mean within the last three or four centuries.
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cyan77May. 19, 2011 - 11:04PM JST

Searched for Gaelic on youtube and could not understand a word of what they were saying but it's a really cool language.
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Taka313May. 20, 2011 - 06:58AM JST

Now that I think of it, it's kind of a big deal that the Queen spoke in Gaelic. It was a forbidden language after all.

Taka
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YongYangMay. 20, 2011 - 11:10AM JST

I mean within the last three or four centuries.

Like I wrote. Pretty sad.
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fleetwood77May. 21, 2011 - 12:29PM JST

The Irish have got a lot of apologising to do as well - for the murder and mayhem their terrorists caused both in Ulster and on mainland UK