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Rebuking Trump, Obama tells graduates walls won't solve problems

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I guess Obama thinks running guns to Mexico (justice department "fast and furious" program) actually helps.

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The university also bestowed an honorary law degree on the president, adding to the half-dozen or so other honorary degrees . . .

So many degrees, still no transcripts.

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Why is this guy meddling in an ongoing election? I thought potuses are not supposed to do that.

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I guess Obama thinks running guns to Mexico (justice department "fast and furious" program) actually helps.

Only if Bush thought it was a great idea, too (2006 DOJ "Wide Receiver" gun walking program).

We can play this silly little game all day, badsey3.

Obama is right. Hiding like frightened children behind walls, of both the physical and ignorance varieties, is no way to move forward in the world.

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Why is this guy meddling in an ongoing election? I thought potuses are not supposed to do that.

Good point. Speakers at the graduation ceremonies are supposed to inspire graduates who are stepping into the world on their own. Instead, Obama's speech appears to have been a campaign speech against Republicans. Obama assumed that all graduates were democrats. Were any republican graduates offended?

They had to hear this after four yours of hard work?

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Hiding behind walls? This is not about hiding - Sounds like Orwellian doublespeak. This is about being able to control immigration to the United States. A porous border helps no American citizen except for the wealthy. Bush and Obama both (which means both sides of our "political class") seem hell bent on destroying the middle class, which has been in steady decline for years. Adding millions to the labor pool does not help the middle class American, nor does it help the poor American.

Trump would not make a good President but he is the only one bringing up the issue of non stop illegal immigration to the U.S. I moved to Japan legally and never considered trying to enter illegally. If I violate immigration laws here I would expect to be deported and disallowed from re-entering. In the U.S. the modus operandi is now catch, issue a citation with a date to appear, and release inside the United States.

Ask Mexico how they treat those that try to enter into the country and stay illegally.

It is a shame the United States, a country having great universities and numerous brilliant people, can do no better than Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump as the presidential candidates for the major parties.

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Why is this guy meddling in an ongoing election?

He's probably trying to save his country from disaster.

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Please Mr.Obama, Go back to Hawaii,sit in the sun and ponder how you single handedly damaged Americas reputation in the world.

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I think this will be one of my favorite quotes from now on:

“In politics and in life ignorance is not a virtue.”

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Please Mr.Obama, Go back to Hawaii,sit in the sun and ponder how you single handedly damaged Americas reputation in the world.

Is that what they're telling you in the bubble these days? Well, good thing you posted here so that we can enlighten you as to reality: http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/06/23/1-americas-global-image/

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Far from being an indictment of the Bush administration as Democrats and the media have claimed (due in no small part to the conspiratorial relationship between DOJ spokesperson Tracy Schmaler and left-wing Media Matters), the inspector general's investigation into Operation Wide Receiver shows conclusively that Wide Reciever was localized, compartmentalized, and all but rogue during the Bush era, with no involvement by DOJ officials and only limited local contact with U.S. attorneys. If anything, what the OIG report shows us during the later stages of Operation Wide Receiver, when it was finally brought to the attention of Eric Holder's Justice Department, is that the key interest of the Department was damage control -- covering up the hundreds of weapons walked and the resulting murders committed with ATF-walked guns. Tellingly, at no point do the agents on the ground in Tucson or Phoenix, in the U.S. Attorney's Office, or in the Obama Justice Department seem to have more than a cursory interest in the lives they've endangered and ends lost as a result of letting more than 400 weapons reach Mexican cartels through Operation Wide Receiver.

= George Bush JR had very little if any knowledge of the ATF Tuscon "wide receiver" gun running program.

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@badsey3,

Is there a link for the above quote? The closest Google result I could get was:

teapartychief.blogspot.com

Let's keep it real, eh?

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". . . ignorance is not a virtue.”

And yet his loyalists are profoundly lacking in the critical-thinking skills he extols here, as they ignore his embrace and expansion of Bush policies, his abandonment of the Constitution and his faithful service to corporate interests.

As he takes his farewell/propaganda/Hillary campaign tour to America's delusional youth, what utter disdain he shows for the public - for a president who stands in the way of transparency to then complain about ignorance.

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kabukideath: Speakers at the graduation ceremonies are supposed to inspire graduates who are stepping into the world on their own

Political figures usually touch on political topics when they speak at graduations. I'm not sure why it's that way, but it's the way everyone does it.

Tokyo-Engr: A porous border helps no American citizen except for the wealthy. Bush and Obama both (which means both sides of our "political class") seem hell bent on destroying the middle class

Immigration isn't creating the massive shift of wealth to the top 1%. It's our modern economy that is destroying the middle class. As soon as conservatives get on board with that, we can start to see what can be done to correct it (hint: it has nothing to do with taxes).

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He was anyway not talking to Trump's demographic.

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@yakyak: Please Mr.Obama, Go back to Hawaii,sit in the sun and ponder how you single handedly damaged Americas reputation in the world.

Because before he was elected, the reputation of the US was good?? Are you being sarcastic? If not, you might want to try to listen to what actually the world has to say about Obama.

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The Rutgers faculty must be uber left to invite a Lame Duck President while allowing on-campus riots against an invite for Condoleezza Rice to give a commencement speech. Afterall, can't let the cupcakes living in their "Safe Place" liberal echo chamber these past four years hear a different point of view and actually have to think.

Another divisive political speech from The Divider-in-Chief : "BLAH BLAH BLAH... vote for Hillary & save my LEGACY!!... BLAH BLAH BLAH". . . .

According to Obama, “In politics and in life, ignorance is not a virtue ... It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about. That’s not keeping it real or telling it like it is ....That’s just not knowing what you’re talking about”.

Oh, the irony. . . .

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vote for Hillary & save my LEGACY!!... BLAH BLAH BLAH". . . .

That was funny....

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Afterall, can't let the cupcakes living in their "Safe Place" liberal echo chamber these past four years hear a different point of view and actually have to think.

Why do Republicans have a problem with the younger generation?

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Please Mr.Obama, Go back to Hawaii,sit in the sun and ponder how you single handedly damaged Americas reputation in the world.

Haha sounds like you don't know much about the world outside the us! If there is one thing B.O has achieved in the last 8 years it's. revive us image in our eyes! Believe me many of us were not 'that' impressed with your GWB choice. For the last 8 years we felt you had finally a leader who could talk to us.

Am not saying Obama has lived up to americans expectations domestically but on the world stage he earned something many us leaders failed to earn before him: our utmost respect. Now if you dont care about that fine but pls dont speak on world's behalf.

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I guess Obama thinks running guns to Mexico (justice department "fast and furious" program) actually helps

Now, now, now! We all know Democrats and liberals live in a world of hypocrisy where their mistakes are ok, but if a conservative makes them, they will run to get the rope.

Why do Republicans have a problem with the younger generation

Why don't liberals EVER listen to wiser people?

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“In politics and in life, ignorance is not a virtue,” Obama said. “It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about. That’s not keeping it real or telling it like it is. That’s not challenging political correctness. That’s just not knowing what you’re talking about,” the president said.

BRILLIANT!!! And correct, Repubs need to take note!!!!!

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Funny! Obama should heed his own words. That would be a start.

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Obama should heed his own words.

He does. That's why he can say what he does.

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He does. That's why he can say what he does.

This is the first breaking news, now our tyrant president will finally do something right for a change before he leaves office. For some people change comes late, better late than ever.

175 more days to go until the madness of this guy is behind us.

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Obama was referring mostly to science and mathematics - that anthropological global warming does exist, for example, or that supply-side economics have proven time and again not to work. This is an important point: simply desiring something to be true (or not) does not make it so, as most of us have learned by our early primary school years. The "walling off" argument could be construed to mean both rejection of right-wing engagements to disengage from the world as well as left-wing desire to silence talk they disagree with. These are wise words.

More, though, is the willingness of voters and media to tolerate untruths from our politicians. Trump has made a thing of calling into question Clinton's honesty, but seriously: I challenge any conservative on this site to state with certainty a single position Trump has made during his campaign that he has not either flip-flopped on (perhaps repeatedly) already or will not likely do so in the near future.

A good measure of this is Politifact, the Pulitzer Prize-winning site that examines candidates’ statements for accuracy. They have found that 76 percent of Trump’s statements are either “mostly false,” “false,” or “pants on fire,” which is to say off-the-charts false. By comparison, Hillary Clinton’s total truthiness failure is 29 percent. This indicates that, for Democrats, a certain adherence to veracity is important, whereas Republicans are attracted to style over substance ("all hat, no cattle," as was said of Bush, for example; of Trump - well, his reluctance to release his tax returns may be as they will reveal "all bluster, little balance," finance-wise).

Obama was likely referring to this alarming trend as well.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

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Obama was likely referring to this alarming trend as well.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

Wow, that's alarming. Very little of what Trump says is true.

And yet the gullible think he tells it as it is. It would appear he tells it as he imagines the people want to hear it.

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All politicians lie, without a doubt, Obama and Hillary should get a Nobel prize for it. Wait a minute....Obama already received one for being...... Nowadays, they give these awards away like a Target Christmas sale gift. Trump DOES have his share of questionable baggage, but anyone thinking Hillary is NOT a slippery slimy fish is just not willing and ready to deal with reality.

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And yet the gullible think he tells it as it is. It would appear he tells it as he imagines the people want to hear it.

Recent history has proven that voters don't mind being lied to - unless the inaccuracies and contradictions pose a threat to their interests, Obama used this tactic to gain passage of numerous bills. And there is no rule that voters need to be reasonable to be eligible to vote, they don't even need to prove who they are.

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Stranger, I'd been of the type hoping Clinton would avoid personal issues and attack Trump on facts, but I read a persuasive article that argued otherwise: not only are most Trump supporters not impressed by objective reality, they are attracted to an image, not a man. The article mentioned an air force tactic of attacking the platform rather than the planes. Trump's platform is his image of financial excellence, supported by his self-proclaimed net worth of up to $10 billion.

This is supported by zero facts. Some financial analysts have pegged his worth at as little as $200 million, nothing to sneeze at - but far less, after inflation, than the seed money he received from his father.

Of course, Trump could clarify this by releasing his tax information. He has promised to do so - promised many times, in fact, over the past 18 months, so many times that the number threatens to overtake that of the GOP regarding their imminent ACA replacement - but he has not. As such, his net worth is open game. He has sued reporters for questioning his financial virility, but his stubby fingers lack the reach to thwart such speculation in the political arena.

So: Trump is worth less than he was bequeathed by his father. He has lost money. He would be better off now if he had left it in a trust fund. He is a loser. We'll see if he can provide us with facts to prove this wrong.

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This is the first breaking news, now our tyrant president

Wow, such harsh words from a Japanese person. I might hear this coming from an American but generally Japanese people have more less neutral position on Obama. I might mistaken this post for someone from the USA.

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You liberals keep circling the wagon on Trump's tax returns, but common folks are more interested on issues related to 20 trillion dollars debt, immigration matters, unfair trades and common sense foreign policies.

You need to read United States Constitution Article 2, section 1, paragraph 5: Nowhere in that paragraph do you see "person shall release their tax returns before the election."

Get over it. Tax returns are private and should remain so.

Does anyone sane person actually believe that Bill and the Hillary are disclosing all their "income."?

Case in point: Warren Buffett "reports" he makes less than $200,000 a year. Only a fool would believe his income is that low.

I for one could care less about Trumps tax returns. However, I care a great deal about America's future and Trumps ability to successfully manage to make America Great Again. Conversely, I care a great deal about the fraud known as the Clinton Foundation, this is where many bones are buried. A thorough audit, conducted by a independent auditor, is mandatory.

Only when Hillary agrees to this, should Trump agree to release his tax returns. What's good for the goose . . .

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Trumps ability to successfully manage to make America Great Again You mean like Trump University. You want America run like that? Would you bet your money on any of Trump's businesses and consider them a sound investment like a Fortune 500 company?

Bill and the Hillary are disclosing all their "income."? To the IRS or the general public?

I care a great deal about the fraud known as the Clinton Foundation Please enlighten us

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Kabuki, there you go again. Basic financial details of the Clinton Foundation are open to public scrutiny as it is a charitable organization. Disagreement as to specifics and confusion to to complexity may occur, but the fact remains that the organization's financials are one of the most-scrutinized on the planet.

Speaking of which, whatever happened to that $6 billion + Trump "raised" through his Website, Trump for Vets, that was set up a day before he begged out of a debate by claiming he'd rather spend his time raising money for vets? (Note that zero of this sum came from his own pocket.) You can still donate if you'd like: https://www.donaldtrumpforvets.com/#sthash.9w0soD1E.dpuf Perhaps someday some of it will go towards its intended purpose; months after the bucks rolled in, more than half has not.

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/04/will-donald-trump-ever-get-veterans-the-money-he-promised-them

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"It is a shame the United States, a country having great universities and numerous brilliant people, can do no better than Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump as the presidential candidates for the major parties."

Well, Sanders came close. In fact, he's not out of it yet! Hillary may yet mplode!

And Cruz came close, though he would be even worse than Donald, lol

"I think this will be one of my favorite quotes from now on:

“In politics and in life ignorance is not a virtue.”

Sigh... if only Obama wasn't ignorant about so many things...

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I care a great deal about the fraud known as the Clinton Foundation Please enlighten us

-May 13, 2016 - http://www.westernjournalism.com/clinton-foundation-accused-of-having-friends-with-benefits/

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I'm talking about fraud that the FBI would care about. People can accuse anyone of fraud. But until someone is busted it's not real fraud. It's just a person you don't like and you like to just think it's fraud.

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Now there is a real trial set for the Trump University fraud. It's in the actual courts. The Clinton foundation fraud is just in the minds of people who hate her. There is really nothing there. Come back when there is some real legal action taking place about the Clinton foundation.

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Ha ha, Kabiki - of all the possibly legitimate concerns regarding the Clinton Foundation, you had choose one written by Western Journalism? This shows what circles you "literary" tastes run in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Journalism_Center

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. . . of all the possibly legitimate concerns regarding the Clinton Foundation, you had choose one written by Western Journalism? This shows what circles you "literary" tastes run in.

Ah, attack the source, I could have provided the link to the Wall Street Journal and others as well. Interesting that you admit also having concerns.

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Ah, attack the source, I could have provided the link to the Wall Street Journal and others as well. Interesting that you admit also having concerns

Why waste time, liberals only believe what they perceive as the truth and NOT the actual truth itself. Like my father said, you can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink.It's a lot easier for liberals to dwell in the alternate dimension.

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Kabuki, you could have sourced the Murdoch-owned Journal or any other semi-respectable publication, but you instead chose to dredge the dregs of the Net to the very organization that spawned the WorldNetDaily. You might have well cited the National Enquirer . It would be wise to produce a source with a smidgen of credibility before accusing someone of attacking the source. In fact, even the Journal has had trouble with their facts recently, seemingly accusing the Clinton Foundation of doling out $2M to a Clinton associate before clarifying five paragraphs later that it had not in fact done so - but guess what the Networks chose to run with. http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/05/13/nbcs-today-falsely-claims-clinton-s-foundation-doled-out-money-private-firm/210406

Of course I have concerns regarding the powerful and wealthy, no matter who they are. I am no one's "bot." Sunlight is the best disinfectant, as they say, and one thing about the Clintons is that they have received more scrutiny than any other family in history. "Trust but verify," as the Gipper would say. A friendly warning: I strongly doubt that Trump is prepared for even a fraction of the scrutiny the Clintons have received continuously for decades. We'll see how he handles it.

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@laguna

Once you quoted MediaMatters, you just might as well have said, the National Enquirer. The Clinton's have received more scrutiny and it seems like Hillary's lies have finally caught up to her. Don't be so sure about Hillary being this unbeatable machine. Remember, 17 GOP candidates found out the hard way.

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Kabuki, you could have sourced the Murdoch-owned Journal or any other semi-respectable publication, but you instead chose to dredge the dregs of the Net to the very organization that spawned the WorldNetDaily.

The Wall Street Journal has a paywall. You'd need to subscribe to access it. And I'm sure then you would have griped about posting an inaccessible link.

Did you even bother to read the article? If you had you would know this:

"In an interview this week, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who is challenging Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, said he could have attacked her by pointing to controversy at the Clinton Foundation but he chose to focus on the issues instead. However, it’s highly unlikely Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, will show such mercy."

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An individual with no decision making experience, no experience in the work force, lackluster education, and with questionable morals get the top job sounds like Tokenism. Barack Hussein Obama acts more like a character from South Park than a country's leader.

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Well don't forget a lot of Trump supporters here were saying negative things about Trump just a few months ago. If the GOP nominates an idiot they don't like, then I guess the bubble dwellers will vote for an idiot they don't like.

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China had wall called in Japan Banri no Chino.

Japan usually copy anything Chinese creation and recreate new Japanese sooomething else.

Japan used rocks around castle and called shorogaki. Then created river surrounding it and created ishigaki. Kumamoto castle was destroyed by earthquake but Kiyomas a Kato designed walls in case enemy forces attacked. Enemy meant Tokugawa then, not earthquake.

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Just finding Trump supporters on this thread is evidence enough of the USA circling the drain

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“In politics and in life, ignorance is not a virtue,” Obama said. “It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about.

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

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@sf2k: aren't you Trump supporter everywhere?

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@toshiko I'm sorry I don't understand the question

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Rebuking Trump, Obama tells graduates walls won't solve problems

Mexico isn't a good neighbor. Fences make for good neighbors.

Obama wants to flood the labor market to make all Americans poor - that's the Left's notion of equality.

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Someone needs to ask him why the U.S. Secret Service is planning to heighten the fence surrounding the White House after numerous attempts by fence jumpers to breach the property if not for purposes of security. What a total doofus.

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Obama wants to flood the labor market to make all Americans poor

And Trump wants to murder homeless kittens.

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Mark my words, we're all gonna miss this man.

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