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Recriminations erupt in ash-fueled aviation crisis

World Apr. 22, 2010 - 07:00AM JST ( 14 )

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MistWizardApr. 22, 2010 - 07:30AM JST

Airlines toted up losses topping $2 billion

No, I don't think so. That could represent money that had to be returned or it might represent money that they ended up not receiving as customers were forced to cancel, but no, I don't think it represents a loss. For a loss you need an accounting period, such as a year, a quarter or a month. As such, a loss is impossible to calculate on the fly. A loss would be revenue minus costs, where the costs are higher than the revenue. I doubt airlines have stacked up 2 billion in costs since the planes were grounded.

Anyway, time to buy passenger ship stock.
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ApsaraApr. 22, 2010 - 08:15AM JST

There wasn't a "three-day worldwide shutdown" of flights after September 11- I flew from Amsterdam to London on the morning of the 13th, and my flight was just delayed a couple of hours.
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NessieApr. 22, 2010 - 08:21AM JST

No matter what they had done, they would have been second-guessed.
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GJDailleultApr. 22, 2010 - 09:33AM JST

Once they learned the last eruption lasted over a year, the math for the airlines was pretty simple. Start flying again and take their chances, or go bankrupt. No surprise which choice they made.
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EgalityrannyApr. 22, 2010 - 09:43AM JST

"A French weather service plane also took samples of the air Tuesday and found no volcanic ash problems.

"Those results appeared to contradict the potentially dire conclusions by the Swiss scientists."

And people wonder why so many of us question the science and computer models employed in examining "global warming."
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timorborderApr. 22, 2010 - 12:12PM JST

Don't see why everybody is complaining. As the BA incident over Indonesia many years ago demonstrated, having a plane end up in a volcanic ash cloud can be very serious.
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5SpeedRacer5Apr. 22, 2010 - 12:24PM JST

"people wonder why so many of us question the science and computer models"

I never wondered why. I always wondered how.

Are you trying to say that Lufthansa and others blindly ignored science in their search for the truth? On the contrary, I would say that they embraced science to find the truth.
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GJDailleultApr. 22, 2010 - 12:28PM JST

Are you trying to say that Lufthansa and others blindly ignored science in their search for the truth?

No, he is saying that the concept of a contradiction is too confusing for him.
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EgalityrannyApr. 22, 2010 - 12:46PM JST

EU scientists can't predict outcomes even when the material being analyzed is literally in their faces. I can easily understand Rasmussen's latest [Monday, April 19, 2010] findings on Americans' attitudes on the matter of "global warming": "59 percent [of voters] said it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data to support their own theories and beliefs about global warming."
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majimeaussieApr. 22, 2010 - 01:37PM JST

It amazes me that people seem to think the danger is over. A small crevice in one of the engine blades from impact with the ash could still fail reasonably quickly due to fatigue.

I hope that they greatly increase the engine inspections of the planes flying through the affected zones.
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tigrisApr. 22, 2010 - 02:23PM JST

The doubters above should offer themselves as test dummies - pun intended.
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EgalityrannyApr. 22, 2010 - 03:08PM JST

"The doubters above should offer themselves as test dummies - pun intended."

How grandiose and pathetic is your view of yourself and our fellow human beings when it can reach a point where you believe you, as a mere speck upon this planet, personally affect solar cycles and subterranean seismic activity?

Seriously, it is time for those who "believe" man is responsible for global warming to stop flying altogether. Do the rest of us a favor, stay home. Stay off the road, unplug your computer. Live what you claim you believe in.
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jruaustraliaApr. 22, 2010 - 10:09PM JST

It amazes me that people seem to think the danger is over. A small crevice in one of the engine blades from impact with the ash could still fail reasonably quickly due to fatigue.

majimeaussie, not to worry. All Europe-bound airlines are under stringent order to inspect their engines for potential ash damage.

Perhaps what caught the irk of aviation bosses was the length of the shutdown. With some even questioning the reasons behind it.

But as they say, damned if you do, damned if you don't.