Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims

Friday 05th December, 03:25 PM JST

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Sarge at 03:59 PM JST - 9th December

I wonder if this has anything to do with all these Islamic militants running around causing murder and mayhem these days...
Loki520 at 07:08 PM JST - 9th December

Sarge, they are NOT militants. They are simply unfairly prosecuted, misunderstood, freedom fighters.

You know... this GWOT started 207 years ago with the Barbary Pirates. Their rhetoric has not changed in more than 200 years. Enough of the coddling and the mistaken belief that we will be able to "talk" them to peace. If peace talks actually worked, the middle east would be the most peaceful place on earth.

These random Muslims that decry terrorist acts need to speak out LOUDER. They need to recruit others to their cause so that their voices grow. And they need to understand that their less than ear-piercing vocal protests is a tacit approval of what those minority few are doing in the name of the faith they share.

for routinely equating Islam with terrorism.

Here's an idea. Instead of telling the world that it's not, why not SHOW us and control the very, at least according to YOU, minority of fanatics that want to kill everyone with different beliefs?
unklesam at 07:23 PM JST - 9th December

"prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims"

Maybe they should try Australia ! I'm sure they would be welcome "down under" !
USARonin at 07:28 PM JST - 9th December

Look who furnished the report.

'Nuff said.
smithinjapan at 07:57 PM JST - 9th December

Loki250: "...at least according to YOU..."

Sorry, Loki, but that's based on fact. Or, please, do prove to us that all Muslims are terrorists... or prove to us even more than a very few are. I can gladly point out the number of terrorists involved in the Mumbai attack (all dead but one), as well as the number of people who flew the planes into US buildings on 9/11. Can you tell me how many terrorists there are? Of COURSE you can't! You're just angry, and you want to misdirect that anger towards the closest possible source you can that has had a few of its people commit terrible crimes.

While I agree that Muslims should come out more against these kinds of things, I would also like to point out that it's far easier to do so with a bit of support and not automatic condemnation, or worse yet, when they DO come out having morons immediately thereafter tell them they are not speaking loud enough, or that actions speak louder than words.

While you may think peace talks are not working, I can tell you they work better than hate talk and weapons of war. Clearly, with the debacle of Iraq and Afghanistan, that should be proof enough.
EurajReturns at 03:07 AM JST - 10th December

Loki

Here's an idea. Instead of telling the world that it's not, why not SHOW us and control the very, at least according to YOU, minority of fanatics that want to kill everyone with different beliefs?

How do you expect them to do that? More violence?
kenjinakasone at 03:46 AM JST - 10th December

all they have to do is not go to the U.S. it'll be interesting to see an era when a foreign country invades the U.S,. or whatever it'll be in the future, only to face an independence movement amongst the locals, i.e. 'terrorists', and then speaks about prejudice rising against like-kinded people back in their own home country. LOL. remember Babylon?
that was a superpower back then. ironic.
bushlover at 11:00 AM JST - 10th December

Muslim Clerics in America should be banned and arrested for spreading hate messages. Maybe this will curb the tendency for this rise in prejudice. But I think that following a close ally's ways of letting muslim leaders get away with calling for their host country's downfall will not help the situation much. We are our own worst enemies. People like Smith is living proof of this.
WilliB at 11:55 AM JST - 10th December

Bushlover:

" Muslim Clerics in America should be banned and arrested for spreading hate messages. "

They might just cite the Koran and the haddith. The hate messages are right there. The problem is more general: We allow violent political speech under the label of "religous freedom". That should not be so. Religions should not be excempt from rules about hate speech. Muslim preachers should be asked to make a clear stand that they refuse the hate suras in the Koran. If they refuse, they should be prosecuted liek any other hate speech provider.
WilliB at 12:04 PM JST - 10th December

Smithinjapan:

" Sorry, Loki, but that's based on fact. Or, please, do prove to us that all Muslims are terrorists.. "

That´s a typical strawman. Nobody ever said that "all muslims are terrorist". The point is all jihadists are muslim, the jihadist message addresses muslims (not Buddhists or Norwegian Lutherans), and only muslims are potential recipients. So it is totally idiotic to blank islam out of the the jihadist problem.
frontandcentre at 01:59 PM JST - 10th December

Sarge, do you think it is justified to commit hate crimes against Muslims because a tiny minority of Muslims commit terrorist acts? Come out and say it if you do - otherwise I suggest you condemn violence against anyone, including US soldiers murdering civilians in the Middle East.

FnC
Loki520 at 07:32 PM JST - 10th December

1) Or, please, do prove to us that all Muslims are terrorists... or prove to us even more than a very few are.

2) I can gladly point out the number of terrorists involved in the Mumbai attack (all dead but one),

3) as well as the number of people who flew the planes into US buildings on 9/11

How convenient for you to leave out any correlative data between #1 and #'s 2 and 3. I don't have to give you numbers of terrorists. All I have to do is provide the number of terrorists in KNOWN terrorist attacks, such as those above. I can include Spain, Chechnya, etc..

Make you a deal. I'll give you the number of terrorists who have perpetrated known terrorist attacks in the past 10 years, and you give me the number of those who were NOT Muslim. Deal?

Terrorist attacks are not being carried out by fanatical Amish, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu's or just about anything else. Other than a desire to kill as many people as possible or being men, WHAT do the VAST MAJORITY, and we are talking the very high 90 percentile here, of all the participants in any terrorist attack over the past 5, 7 or even 10 years have in common?

The only moronic thing around here is the belief that if we just be compassionate enough, they will leave us in peace. They refuse to believe that. And the handful of those that have the same culture and race who are speaking out are just that - a handful. If the terrorists only represent a very small fraction of total Muslims followers, those speaking out are even a smaller fraction.
redninja at 11:28 AM JST - 12th December

[quote]Muslim Clerics in America should be banned and arrested for spreading hate messages. Maybe this will curb the tendency for this rise in prejudice. But I think that following a close ally's ways of letting muslim leaders get away with calling for their host country's downfall will not help the situation much. We are our own worst enemies. People like Smith is living proof of this.[/quote] Is reverand Jeremy Wright muslim?
redninja at 11:31 AM JST - 12th December

Muslim Clerics in America should be banned and arrested for spreading hate messages. Maybe this will curb the tendency for this rise in prejudice. But I think that following a close ally's ways of letting muslim leaders get away with calling for their host country's downfall will not help the situation much. We are our own worst enemies. People like Smith is living proof of this.

Is reverand Jeremy wright muslim? bushlove, looks like your problem lays elsewhere.
Loki520 at 06:25 PM JST - 13th December

How do you expect them to do that? More violence?

Maybe they can get a bunch of hollywood stars and put on a theatrical show to draw attention to their plight. Jack Black can play Allah, and you can get M. Cho to be some suicide bomber..

In theory, this is how we get things ACTUALLY accomplished in this world. Look how well it worked for Prop 8...

Oh... wait....

Why don't they try to be more VOCAL about it? Why do they wait until something happens TO THEM before they say anything. The only reason they say anything at all is when it becomes negative TO THEM. They are utterly silent when stuff happens and it doesn't include them as victim. Almost as if their silence is tacit approval.