Carter: Wilson comments toward Obama 'based on racism'

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helloklitty at 07:52 PM JST - 22nd September

Carter was and is still incompetent. He has peanut envy.
4thEstateDotCom at 08:06 PM JST - 22nd September

The "Republicans are racist" argument is self-defeating. Any American (can't speak for Canadians or Europeans etc) making it looks like a loser and a crybaby.
JoeBigs at 09:49 PM JST - 22nd September

helloklitty at 07:52 PM JST - 22nd September Carter was and is still incompetent. He has peanut envy.

Carter ended the cold war with Presidential Directive 59, if it were not for that who knows what would have happened....

HK, you need to read a bit.......LOL

I always wonder why is it that most enemies of our country are created by the far right?

But now we dance to the next page.....

Bill O'Reilly how can we save the white christian race? I always wonder what the followers of Hera thought?LOL

O’REILLY: But do you understand what the New York Times wants, and the far-left want? They want to break down the white, Christian, male power structure, which you’re a part, and so am I, and they want to bring in millions of foreign nationals to basically break down the structure that we have. In that regard, Pat Buchanan is right. So I say you’ve got to cap with a number.

Huh? Bill do you mean that the Republic is not inclusive?

MCCAIN: In America today we’ve got a very strong economy and low unemployment, so we need addition farm workers, including by the way agriculture, but there may come a time where we have an economic downturn, and we don’t need so many.

Oh I am sorry Mister white McCain, I did not mean to insult you by speaking up. So you want me to dance a jig and be quiet while you do what you want?

O’REILLY: But in this bill, you guys have got to cap it. Because estimation is 12 million, there may be 20 [million]. You don’t know, I don’t know. We’ve got to cap it.

opps did I overstep my bounds because I did not go to Yale? What's you want from me's boss? U want's me to dance a jig?LOL

Okay what is the diff?
easychord2 at 10:25 PM JST - 22nd September

So Obama's campaign slogan should have been: "Don't be a racist, vote Obama"
sailwind at 10:54 PM JST - 22nd September

Sarge,

ask yourself why Steele was not invited to the teabaggers parade in DC recently?

Answer, cause he is black.

Agreed

This guy was invited instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiyzZd0wO2g
zurcronium at 11:01 PM JST - 22nd September

The wingers posts defending the racist republican party are just like their posts about WMD in Iraq. It is all a fantasy of their own making.

The republicans will appoint blacks so they appear to not be overtly racist but the voting republicans have not elected a black representative in years. Voting patterns in the last election for President show that republicans voted race in stronger numbers against Obama than for any other candidate, even when bush, their idiot failure leader, ran in 2000 and 2004.

Facts are what they are. The weak attempt to question my nationality are totally irrelevant to the truth and wrong as usual. In other words its typically republican approach to any issue. Lie, obscure, spin, ad hominem, lie again, and deny the truth totally.
Sarge at 11:09 PM JST - 22nd September

sailwind - I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it any more! Thanks!
tigermoth at 01:01 AM JST - 23rd September

Actually tigermouth, I think you are helping Wilson correct those lies about the and fine southern gentlemen like Wilson and Forest. Keep that flag flying in South Carolina! Well that is what Wilson believes!

Well done, keep showing everyone else that there is no racism in America, Carter was lying.......LOL

Who said there is no racism in America?? I certainly didn't, in fact my postings state the opposite - that rather those claiming not to be (mainly liberal dems) are in fact as racist as their Republican counterparts. Black folks are as racist as white folks. Hell, some people just hate everyone equally.

Everyone seems intent on making grandiose statements about how racist the republican party is and how rightious Jimmy Carter is. Throw in the usual hatred for Rush Limbaugh, some inane comments about someone calling the First Lady a gorilla. Dancing around the issue and doing your own political grandstanding; 'hey, look how smart I am'. Great for you, but not germaine to the question at hand: was Wilson's comment racist, and was JC correct in calling him on it?

I suppose the point that the libs on here are trying to hammer home is that the Republican Party is racist. Fine, concede; they're racist. In truth [difficult for most to admit for all of you I'm sure] so are those of you crying foul, so is the NAACP, etc. etc. etc.

So the 'logic' tree of your thinking follows thusly:

Repbulican = Racist Southerner = Racist Wilson - Republican/Southerner = Big time racist

Carter = Sotherner Background to formula; family owned plantation, former slave owners, endentured servitude post-war, on segregated board of education therefore should = Racist -BUT- Subtract for hypocracy, so Carter/Southerner therefore Racist - Dem/builds houses for the poor = Non-racist yet adept at condemning those who he perceives certainly are based on criteria that should make him therfore a racist (by your own theories).

Hmmmmm. Glad you're all so logical.

Carter is 100 percent right !!!!! Carter founded Habitat for Humanity International. A volunteer group that builds house for Americans, American military and other things. Check you facts before you insult this former president that helps americans. The former President (GW Bush )is a scum bag. My facts are true go to www.habitat.org The truth will always prevail It goes to show some southerns and racists want another civil war. Or civil war part deux.

Oh, I see - because he's part of 'habitat for humanity' then he must be correct. Gotcha. Because there has never been any example of a statesman,the famous, or anyone else doing good deeds yet being less than model citizens otherwise.

Conclusions; there is no evidence other than somewhat flawed theory that Wilson's remarks were racist, but it will be concluded that they are because (a) he's white; (b) he's republican; and the trifecta (c) He's southern. That condemns quite a few people. Isn't stereotying in this manner one of the high signs of racism in the first place, and why it's condemned by the thinking as idiotic?

But I'm sure you're going to tell me that I'm wrong. Zurc - just don't mention the Michele Obama/Gorilla thing again as I heard you the first fifteen times and fail to see the relevance of that one particular vulgar comment.
zurcronium at 02:21 AM JST - 23rd September

Zurc - just don't mention the Michele Obama/Gorilla thing again as I heard you the first fifteen times and fail to see the relevance of that one particular vulgar comment.

It fits the pattern or repeated racist comments and memos from the republican party or their operatives. Back in 2000 Bush used it against McCain in, where else, south carolina by accusing McCain of having a black child. So republicans use racism against themselves if need be.

Racism in the republican party goes way, way back and exists now in the full light of day as the republicans cannot accept an intelligent black president.

Next week or next month will be example 150 since Obama became President. And the right wingers will deny the truth of their own party once again. It is just their way.
tigermoth at 03:06 AM JST - 23rd September

Firstly, you would have to show me where Bush actually accused McCain of having a black child. As for the gorilla comment, I wouldn't be surprised if some arse did indeed say this. But one comment, two comments, a couple of dozen, a few hundred or a few thousand - that still doesn't justify a blanket denunciation and proclomation of party-wide racism. What you're trying - rather uneloquently - to say is that party demographics would conclude that overall individuals that display racist tendancies/thinking - whatever - come from the vestiges of the far right. I would concede that as true - but to me that is different than just concluding that because you're a republican you must therefore be racist.

Let's put it another way. I used to live in our Nation's capital back when it was dubbed the 'murder capital of the world' because of a record number of homocides. Now I should go back and look up recorded statistics to back this up, but I'm confident in saying that the majority of the homocides in the city were perpetrated by black males. The easy conclusion would be to say that black males in Washington, DC were a bunch of violent murderers - right? Well, no that's not quite right. Most of this violence centered around the drug trade and involved deals gone bad, rivalry, etc. And by happenstance the low income neighborhoods where these murders mainly took place were predominantly African American. But to suggest that all African Americans in the city were somehow responsible, likely doing drugs, or violent murders is untrue, unfounded and in fact could be determined as racist.

Fifty, forty, even thirty years ago your statment might have more validity. The white, middle class 'Leave it to Beaver' neighborhoods were bastions of white, republican racism to be sure. But that's not the case today. I have good, close friends from both spectrums and find none of them to be particularly racist, but rather thought specific on certain issues, whether it be defense spending, education, immigration, abortion, etc.

I stand by my thoughts that no one - including Carter - has proven to me the Wilson's comments were nothing more than a passionate politician doing what they too often do best - being crass, rude and without class.
tigermoth at 03:07 AM JST - 23rd September

perpetuated should read purpotrated above - although both could be true
tigermoth at 03:08 AM JST - 23rd September

sorry, was the right word. had it typed in two places - time to home!
zurcronium at 03:51 AM JST - 23rd September

tigermoth,

I am not saying that all republicans are racist, I am saying the party is however. Voting patterns, demographics, zero black elected officials, a series of comments and memos from republicans officials are all proof. And the party as it shrinks to below 20% of the US population, it is 23% now, is losing moderate members and only the racist core will in the end remain. On every recent major civil rights or immigration based issue, the republicans have been on the wrong side of history.

Regarding the bush attack on mccain, that is common knowledge and well documented. Just google on it if you wish. Bush learned the nasty tricks of campaigning in Texas along with Rove. He derailed the mccain momentum in 2000 by accusing him of coddling a black baby in his family. Total lies. But of course it worked, mccain did not recover.
4thEstateDotCom at 10:00 AM JST - 23rd September

"Carter ended the cold war with Presidential Directive 59, if it were not for that who knows what would have happened..."

Priceless. Solid gold comedy there JoeBigs.
JoeBigs at 11:16 PM JST - 28th September

Does racism exist in America? If your white and live in a safe happy happy place called suburbia, then it does not(keep your eye on your crankhead kid). But for everyone else, racism is alive and well and living in places called every where else U.S.A....

Hey let us have some fun and let us go through all the fun happy far right wing comments about our off white President;

South Carolina GOP activist Rusty DePass calling Michelle Obama a gorilla

http://www.alan.com/2009/06/15/sc-republican-apologizes-for-comparing-michelle-obama-to-a-gorilla/

Or maybe we can see another fine far right winger using racist comments; Do not worry far right wingers, you have a good reason to worry.....psssst no one believes you any more except klan members and nazis so keep up the fine job...LOL;

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-15/inside-the-young-gops-civil-war/

http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/09/anti-obama-criticism-racist-bl_comments.html

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/03/30/2617288-obama-racial-stereotypes-falsehoods-flourish

This one shows how far the far right will stoop when it comes to race..

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PENewsLocalSbuck16.3d67d4a.html

You can hide behind Rush (a great far right wing racist), you can yell, but you guys keep hammering those nails in your own coffins with the bs you post.

It is hard to hide from the truth when that light is shine at you....Far right wingers are scared and they dislike our black President and would rather hunt him than argue against him.....

4thEstateDotCom at 10:00 AM JST - 23rd September "Carter ended the cold war with Presidential Directive 59, if it were not for that who knows what would have happened..." Priceless. Solid gold comedy there JoeBigs.

I can tell that you never heard of directive 59....Read and become enlightened...LOL