Rice defends post 9/11 interrogation techniques

Friday 23rd May, 12:15 PM JST

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SezWho2 at 04:24 AM JST - 24th May

SuperLib,

Care to finish that thought?

I don't much think that torture is going to stop the radical Muslims. Perhaps if we can stop the torture we will be able to concentrate on doing the constructive things that are necessary to marginalize the radicals.
SuperLib at 05:59 AM JST - 24th May

I've nothing more to add. Looks like you and I agree the problem is radical Islam.
Badsey at 06:42 AM JST - 24th May

I blame the detainees for these forms of torture: -for the simple fact that they are allowing these techniques to work on them. If the techniques didn't work they wouldn't use them.

-and whoever thought of Guantanamo Bay is a pure genius, but it would be a nice thing to give it back to Cuba.
skipthesong at 09:32 AM JST - 24th May

Not much different than testing for witches." Sezwho, respectfully: I may sound like a hypocrite, but I agree with that statement. However, I would claim perhaps the round up of them is as such, not once they are there. The people working the camp really nothing to do with rounding them up. But yes, I do fear a witch hunt and off topic, but it does seem there are a lot of witch hunts going on across the US and not for terror suspects either.

Mistreatment of prisoners--and let's be straight, the top 10 mistreatments are torture even if they don't immediately result in organ failure--is not nice." I don't think it was to be intended as such. Do you think interrogators should be nice and sweet? But what about what results it has bought in such as catching some of the terror network people? YOu are saying its not worth it? I honestly feel this is a lot better than bombing a country to weed them out.

Let me ask you this and please don't take offense but let's turn back the clock and these detainees where say Nazis or Imperial Japanese soldiers and not Muslims/Arabs, do you think you would have the same compassion for them as you do for the current detainees?

BTW: you point about Daniel Pearl was understandable. I understand it that the people he did kill him had such a complex network of disseminating orders that no one knew who did the actual killing, which is why I feel we need to do everything within our power, short of killing them or harming them for life, in order to stop the next Daniel Pearl.

As for Rice, she has been very good for America. Maybe you don't like her boss, but she is one swift lady.
SezWho2 at 09:39 AM JST - 24th May

SuperLib,

I'm afraid we don't agree. Radical Islam is a problem. It is not the problem.
Madverts at 06:47 PM JST - 24th May

"Looks like you and I agree the problem is radical Islam.'

Which problem?

The problem of the US using torture techniques is because of radical Islam?

I don't understand.
super delegate at 06:58 PM JST - 24th May

"Radical Islam is a problem. It is not the problem."

What is the problem, then?

I would estimate Mohammedans are combatants in over 80 percent of the various wars and civil wars and wars of attrition being fought on this planet.
Madverts at 07:11 PM JST - 24th May

People,

This thread is about the memebers of the current US aministration, notably condi rice defending the use of torture.

Bringing up "mohammedans" or radical Islam is not a very good defence of torture from a supposedly civilized country.
super delegate at 07:27 PM JST - 24th May

"U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Thursday defended tough interrogation techniques for terrorism suspects approved by the Bush administration in the wake of 9/11, saying they were necessary to protect America from new attacks."

Sorry Madverts, but the centrality of Islam in all of this undeniable.
Madverts at 09:21 PM JST - 24th May

They're suspects.

And you're defending torturing them to determine whether they're guilty or not.

That is despicable.

It is also highly un-American.
zurcronium at 10:24 PM JST - 24th May

sarge,

being weak minded is a religion followed by many on JT. You may know someone like that yourself.
Sarge at 10:27 PM JST - 24th May

"( Rice ) said America was safer"

Zero terrorist attacks on U.S. soil since September 11, 2001 despite all attempts... hmmm...
super delegate at 02:15 AM JST - 25th May

"They're suspects. And you're defending torturing them to determine whether they're guilty or not. That is despicable. It is also highly un-American."

LOL.

2 or 3 jihadis get waterboarded and Euros break out in some kind of St Vitus Dance.

Meanwhile, thousands of European women - girls, actually, - undergo genital mutilation and you lot do nothing but wring your hands. insist it is culture
Madverts at 07:00 PM JST - 25th May

super-d...,

But you'll be the first to shriek jihad when Americans suffer similar treatment abroad.

They have a word for that kind of attitude, bud.
Madverts at 04:55 PM JST - 26th May

Personally, I'd like to think I'm above people who torture. You clearly don't.

But like I said, if Americans are treated (and this treatment will be justified by US use of torture), you will be one of the first to shriek for jihad.