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Serrano
Romney has won in Nevada. Then again, 1 out of 4 voters there are Mormons.
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Serrano
Gingrich: "Obama lite"
Better than regular Obama.
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Laguna
Not only are 1 out of 4 voters there Mormons, but he won 51% back in '08. He's at 42.5% now; not exactly a "crushing victory," is it?
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sailwind
Congratulations to the wealthy former venture capitalist, who earned $20 million from his investments in 2010 and paid just 13.9% in taxes. As the article points out.
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yabits
They missed the facts that he enjoys firing people and that he only made "a little bit" off of his speaking engagements.
A little bit -- roughly $375,000 -- is nearly 10 times the yearly income of a majority of the American people.
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Laguna
Oh, poor sailwind - now perhaps you understand the frustration some of us felt at the endless descriptions of Obama as a "community organizer."
Go ahead - blame the media. Obama was a community organizer, in addition to a university professor, Harvard Law graduate and United States Senator. Romney does make obscene amounts of money from his investments and does pay obscenely low tax rates on them. Perhaps this might be of interest to Nevadans, who suffer under the highest unemployment rate and worst housing situation in the country. But go ahead, really: blame the media.
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yabits
Rather than providing some help to people, Willard wanted the whole bankruptcy thing to just play itself out. Of course, making over $20M a year from investments didn't help the fool from telling people he was "unemployed."
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Madverts
It's funny to watch the radical arm of right wing partisans permanent obsession of bemoaning the media for reporting on facts they'd prefer to deny.
Yes Sailwind, people deserve to know that fat cats like Romney aren't paying their fair share. It's why Mitt didn't want to release the figures, and why the media helped him along there.
How come I didn't see you lambasting the media for holding the candle for the Birther fiasco? That wasn't even actual fact more a rumour started by another fat cat with a partisan agenda!
Let's face it none of you really like Romney at all but your hatred of Obama and blind partisanship has reached screaming point, common sense long forgotten. I presume this is a mental health safety net of media blame, should "the un-thinkable" (read quite possible) happen, an Mr Obama be re-elected.
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sailwind
It's how Mr. Obama he got elected in the first place. John Heilemann a Journalist for New York magazine in a recent article states it clearly and also states what I do hope also in 2012 in Media coverage.
No person with eyes in his head in 2008 could have failed to see the way that soft coverage helped to propel Obama first to the Democratic nomination and then into the White House. But in the course of the past three years, reporters, as is their wont, have arrived at a more measured (and even jaundiced) view of him. Let’s hope that means that in this fall’s horse race, both ponies get ridden equally hard.
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Madverts
What a load of rubbish. Kid yourself but don't expect the rest of us at the trough.
John McCain lost because of his monumentally stupid and thouroughly ridiculous choice of running mate. Up until then, it was wide open.
Now, I realize this will ignite another torrent of media fury about how they treat your Sarah, but heh, to us moderates just remember Sailwind....
... she did all to herself.
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Madverts
Did it all to herself. Whoops
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Madverts
Oh and you clearly didn't watch Hilary and Obama slug it out. They just didn't have knack of the shrieking, bitter personal attacks to drag the party down to the depths of GOP primaries as we've just witnessed, between Gingrich and Romney.
Or is that part of the media conspiracy too?
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sailwind
All 200,000 plus of her e-mails that were dug through by the Media sure proved it.
I'm sticking with Mr. Heilemann......No person with eyes in his head in 2008 could have failed to see the way that soft coverage helped to propel Obama first to the Democratic nomination and then into the White House.
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Laguna
Nope; that is because Democrats argue about issues. Republicans arguing about issues would be like Catholics arguing about dogma: their truth is written in stone. They instead try to out-Reagan each other - which is funny for people of a certain age (like me) who actually lived through the guy.
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Madverts
I'd stick with a plan for the four years of Obama. Mental preparation. It's not a cert, but it's more than possible.
The media are a twisted lot I'll grant, but coming from your politicaL stance I'm not believing they're pro-Obama anytime soon.
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Madverts
"Out-Reagan each other".
I like that, Laguna.
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unreconstructed
The media was in the tank for Obama. You needed all of about two days in America during the 08 campaign for that to have been made all too clear. I recall telling European expats here in Japan when Obama won Iowa that he would be the Dem nominee. Hilariously, I was told that my country is too racist to nominate " a black."
It continues, of course. Gov Perry declares his candidacy and his college transscripts are leaked within a matter of days. 3 years into Obama's presidency and we still can't see his or details of how he financed his schooling. The LA Times freely admits to holding a videotape of a dinner for the PLO attended by Obama. They won't release the tape because it would hurt Obama. Obama's vapid auto-bio Dreams details a romance with a green-eyed brunette, daughter of one of the wealthiest families in America. How come no one can find her? She would have been a media super star in 08 and 09. Today, maybe not so much. It is no coincidence that his manager, David Axelrod, is himself part of the media complex. How anyone can read about the "journolist " group and try and come here in refusal beggars belief.
Funny thing is I know Dems, older than the average here, who are quite open about the left-leaning mainstream media. As they see it there is a certain class qualified to report on news and politics and those people are "liberal" in their political beliefs. .
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sailwind
Just in case your really want to know what was really of interest to Nevada's voters today that this article didn't report on:
The economy is far and away the top issue for Nevada Republican caucus goers today, with 54 percent identifying it as their top issue. Another 33 percent said the budget deficit, while 5 percent said illegal immigration and 3 percent said abortion.
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unreconstructed
Yeah. Wait til the general begins. Axelrod and Co. are going to run what many predict will be the nastiest, most divisive campaign in modern history. Because Obama has nothing to run on, other than Seal Team 6 killing OBL with intel gleaned using methods "BushCo" approved. IOW - his greatest success as prez amounts to vindication of his predecessor, media-driven hatred of whom he rode undeservedly into the White House.
Bill Clinton,btw, recently admitted the media sided with Obama against his wife in 08.
http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/bill-clinton-admits-that-the-media-favored-obama-over-hillary-in-2008/
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plasticmonkey
So why did the 'liberal' media made so much of Obama's peripheral connections to Tony Rezko, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and Bill Ayers? What log cabin were you staying in during your two days in America during the 08 campaign? You must also have missed how meanwhile the 'liberal lamestream drive-by' media never made a point of mentioning the ex-con G. Gordon Liddy being a donor and fundraiser for John McCain.
And you forgot about Fox. Are they part of the 'media complex' as well?
Must be true then.
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sailwind
This is how they made so much of it......
From 2007 until last month, some 300 liberal journalists and policy wonks exchanged ideas and commentary on a secret, off-the-record Internet email group called JournoList. It was shut down after portions leaked, leading to the resignation of Washington Post writer David Weigel last month over his intemperate criticism of conservatives he was covering.
Some of the comments will no doubt revive conservative allegations of a liberal news media conspiracy. Spencer Ackerman, then of the Washington Independent, now at Wired, urged fellow journalists to kill the story of Mr. Obama's ties to the controversial Revered Jeremiah Wright by going after some of his critics. "Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares -- and call them racists," he urged. "What is necessary is to raise the cost on the right of going after the left. In other words, find a rightwinger's [sic] and smash it through a plate-glass window. Take a snapshot of the bleeding mess and send it out in a Christmas card to let the right know that it needs to live in a state of constant fear. Obviously I mean this rhetorically."
Chris Hayes of the Nation magazine urged "those in the ostensible mainstream media" who were on the list to ignore the Rev. Wright story. He insisted the real issue had nothing to do with Mr. Obama's pastor and instead "has everything to do with the attempts of the right to maintain control of the country."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703724104575379194025225772.html
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plasticmonkey
Ah, so that's why I never heard those stories in the news in 08.
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Madverts
PlasticM,
You're wasting your time on the radicals. Heh, I can hear Palin still shrieking about "Obama's ties to terrorists" right at the end of the campaign, when team McCain were wincing with the embarassment of not being able to shut her up...
Talk about a gimmick gone wrong!
And still to this day sailwind hasn't the courage to admit she is the real reason Barrack Obama is in office.
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Madverts
That crackpot priest farce was also damaging to Obama, the media were relentless.
Laguna has already said it best. Democrats still engage in adult debate whilst the GOP just sinks ever lower with its bitter and hateful campaigns. They're going to remain in the wilderness for some time to come.
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sailwind
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that George Bush was an unpopular President and that the economy tanked with the financial crises right before the November election.
The American people were so concerned about the Vice Presidential candidate choice because the Vice Presidency is just soooooo important. Just ask John Nance Gardner one of the many the FDR had as his Vice President.
When it comes to commentary about the office of vice president of the United States, no statement is more repeated than John Nance Garner’s observation that “the vice presidency is not worth a bucket of warm spit.”
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Madverts
If anyone got a good ride with the media it was my favourite eloqutionist Geedub hiself. Right up until things really went tits-up in Iraq the media were timid to critisize, largely due to Karl Rove's extremely effective propaganda machine in a post 911 world that had any dissenters as terrorists.
If there is one thing I will give you genuine credit for Sailwind, is that you're still on the same handle you always had, unlike others who I shan't mention. That deserves mentioning, because you're the only one left.
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Laguna
The Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism is probably just another liberal front, but here is an analysis of news reporting of various candidates c. late 2011.
The most surprising result is that Palin received a 31% positive rating against 22% negative. I chalk that down to a combination of Stockholm Syndrome and expectations lowered so drastically that she'd receive positive press as long as she didn't forget her own name.
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JeanValJean
What I think is interesting is that despite the so-called "mainstream" media doing everything they can to marginalize or outright ignore Ron Paul, his support base has grown significantly. Just compare his numbers from 2008 to this time. And he's the only candidate that appeals to voters regardless of their party affiliation. Jon Stewart very rightly mocked the media(ALL OF THEM) after the 'coverage' of the Iowa caucus. Sadly, a large portion of the electorate only know what the MSM tells them.
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Madverts
"John Nance Garner’s observation that “the vice presidency is not worth a bucket of warm spit.” "
Surely he was talking about Mr Cheney at the time?
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Madverts
I think the fact that he's a nut does the job on it's own Jean. Possibly a good thing, we saw what desperate people do in desperate times in Germany all those years ago.
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sailwind
Madverts,
I agree with that 100 percent. The Media was more less cowed at that time prior to the invasion of Iraq. It did not do its job then either. Which brings me to this most important and critical point. No matter what is the burning issue of the day when the Media does not perform its duty as the fourth estate in keeping those in power and influence in check through objective and non-bias reporting we all lose, both left and right.
Thanks for the compliment and I also wish to return to you the same. Does have some drawbacks though but in a good way. I know that I will be held accountable for my past posts and positions, which is how it should be.......it keeps me honest. Though Smith in Japan, Superlib, Cleo, Sushi and Yabits have been here a long time also. I guess I'm the JT version of FOX news as I seem to be the only "conservative" channel that seems to usually be against the positions of the "Liberal Mainstream JT Media Longtime Posters" ........Again thanks for the compliment.
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DentShop
She was but one factor that led to Obamas win.
Dont forget the disastrous Republican administration that preceded him, their destroying of Americas economy and international standing.
Dont forget that McCain was a very unappealing choice for swinging voters.
Dont forget that Obama raised and spent a record amount of money to get elected and enthused a lot of Americans who would normally not vote to come out and cast their ballot. They werent coming out to vote against Palin.
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The Truth Matters
I have a great idea for you Saliwind. I think you should become a reporter. You could only report the facts that you wanted reported and tell only the stories that you thought should be told.
You can call it Sailwind's one minded press.
Good luck with that!
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The Truth Matters
Excuse mr. sailwind sir.
Um...you seem to have forgotten to reply to Laguna upthread regarding the press' constant references of Pres. Obama as a community organizer. I guess that's page one news at Sailwind One Minded Press.
Hee hee.
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The Truth Matters
"Just ask John Nance Gardner....."
I'm going to beat Madverts to the punch on this one:
Chevy Volt!!!
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The Truth Matters
Congratulations Mitt and you didn't even bust out a "Screw the poor!" Attaboy!
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sailwind
Um...you seem to have forgotten to reply to Laguna upthread regarding the press' constant references of Pres. Obama as a community organizer. I guess that's page one news at Sailwind One Minded Press
You mean like this New York Times piece from 2008 when he was being venerated.....errrrr....vetted by the press.
Turning deficits into assets — a skill Mr. Obama learned in his 20s as a community organizer — could well be called the motto of his rise. With his literary gifts, he transformed a fatherless childhood into a stirring coming-of-age tale.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/weekinreview/26kantor.html?pagewanted=all
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Laguna
Still not convinced, sailwind. For example, check out any major news outlet Website now and there'll be some variation of "Overwhelming win for Romney" (Washington Post). They could well have spun it as "Romney scores over 3% lower than four years ago" - but they didn't.
Conflicting interests come into play in the news. I'd agree that the majority of content producers may lean liberal - they are the intellectual, creative types. But they also deal with the need to attract attention in an increasingly fragmented age in order to put bread on their tables. And the media itself is overwhelmingly owned by faceless megacorporations only interested in the bottom line.
Overall, I'd guess that it balances out well enough. Decrying the media will never score points, whether on the right or on the left. Let it go and focus on the content - which, in this particular case, was that a multimillionaire recently endorsed by Donald Trump won a primary in a state of whose inhabitants a large percentage share his religion. The only "spin" I've seen is calling it anything greater than that, as the Washington Post chose to do.
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cracaphat
Being the nominee has always been Rom's to lose.Because with the scandal tainted pretenders not being real contenders thru various issues,a person with the least baggage was wanted.Romney is purely stopgap until the '16 election when Obama has finished.
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skipbeat
Romney may have spoken without thinking. Romney is right about the poor, there are programs to help the poor. Romney is also correct that he wants to raise the middle class because the middle class is becoming the working poor.
Obama is a just a smooth talker and blames everyone for his problems.
People have come to realized the president religion have no bearing on the nation due to the Constitution, the separation of state and church.
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Madverts
"People have come to realized the president religion have no bearing on the nation"
Jeez I'm guilty of typos but that needs online translation...
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Madverts
Sailwind, you're welcome. What has to be said must be said. I still fail to see media bias in favour of Mr Obama in US media. Unicorns do still take to the air in the country where I reside for Mr Obama, but then the media here has teeth akin to your average pensioner...
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Madverts
Dentshop,
Agreed on the extra factors you cite. I do maintain however, that she was the pivotal factor on McCain's run. If I was an American voter the mere thought of her as No.2 was enough to wet the bed.
Since Romney has the smooth PR you'd expect for that kinda dough, I'm interested to see who he's planning as a running mate. He should ask Karl Rove. Maybe they'd opt for a homeless, once upon a middle class sort out of leftfield, to show how our gazillionaire candidate is in touch with the masses afterall. Heh, if the repubs last attempt is anything to go by.
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Serrano
"take on President Barack Obama in November"
During the 8 years of the Bush presidency, U.S. public debt rose by $5 trillion to $10.7 trillion.
During the first 3 years of the Obama presidency, it's risen by $3.5 trillion to $14.2 trillion.
It's foreboding to think what the debt will be by the end of Obama's second term...
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