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Romney is only no-show at Republican debate on abortion

World Jan. 19, 2012 - 11:57AM JST ( 19 )

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illsayitJan. 19, 2012 - 01:08PM JST

so isnt abortion a private choice?
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Elbuda MexicanoJan. 19, 2012 - 01:45PM JST

Not in the USA, to many hard core right wing Evangelical Christians etc..abortion is MURDER, so we see attacks on abortion clinics, abortion doctors etc..
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SerranoJan. 19, 2012 - 02:22PM JST

Abortion ranks way lower than the economy on this year's campaign issues.
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illsayitJan. 19, 2012 - 03:31PM JST

well I certainly wouldnt want my taxes paying for that choice when the economy is in need
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NessieJan. 19, 2012 - 04:01PM JST

so isnt abortion a private choice?

Not if you're a fetus.
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MadvertsJan. 19, 2012 - 04:16PM JST

I think it's totally fair to have religious nuts decide for other people that they should be forced to have a child. I mean, they have a 2000 year old story book to back it up.

Freedom?
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Johannes WeberJan. 19, 2012 - 05:23PM JST

Personal freedom ends where nutters moan. Religious tolerance is a weak spot of the US, since some "devout" people decide that others have to follow their lead. A bit like - some country which starts with I..., where religious freedom and civil rights are also guaranteed by the constitution and not realised in practice.

A long time ago, the US was known as the country where everyone could devote his life to his own pursuit of happines. A long time ago...

What Ron Paul says about showing expecting mothers the heartbeat is right, I guess. They should think it through very carefully, since the choice is irrevocable. An abortion should never, ever be a rash decision. Children and women themselves deserve better treatment.

Nevertheless, both abortion and birth are among the most personal issues for a woman (they are neither taken lightly by a potential father). No other person has the right to force any decision upon her.
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FamilienproblemeJan. 19, 2012 - 05:58PM JST

Very shrewd of Romney avoid this debate. He is anti-abortion, but parading it in this debate would only turn many undecided voters against him. He has stated that he would leave it up to states, but frankly, I think that is a smokescreen. Ron Paul says the same thing, but I believe Paul.
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FamilienproblemeJan. 19, 2012 - 06:03PM JST

By using ultrasound that showed parents their children in a mother’s womb, he said he sometimes convinced women not to have abortions.

Paul shows his smarts. You cannot make a willing mother by the rule of law. Its an arrogant twit that thinks otherwise, usually male. A bunch of anti-abortion females are just stupid Stepford wives.
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MadvertsJan. 19, 2012 - 07:28PM JST

"well I certainly wouldnt want my taxes paying for that choice when the economy is in need"

Agreed.

I'd much rather the money was spent orphaning unwanted children, and then supporting them as they move in and out of correctional facililtes.

With a bit of luck they'll become irresponsible parents too, naturally, several children with different partners.
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SerranoJan. 19, 2012 - 11:14PM JST

"so isn't abortion a private choice?"

"Not if you're a fetus"

So, Nessie, are you saying abortion is murder?

"I think it's totally fair for religious nuts to decide for other people that they should be forced to have a child"

Um, Madverts, the "religious nuts" aren't forcing anyone to have a child, they're saying exercise restraint and don't have intercourse or use contraceptives if you don't want a child.
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MadvertsJan. 20, 2012 - 12:07AM JST

Excersise restraint is working really well isn't it?

No you're right, since I hate freedom of choice and want to force the will of my 2000 year old story book on any heathens not prepared to bend to the texts, I agree lets ban abortion NOW! Especially on those little scally's that got themselves raped by being provocative in the first place!

This level of denial should require a permit.
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plasticmonkeyJan. 20, 2012 - 07:12AM JST

the media and bureaucracy are "increasingly driving us towards a secular society that has nothing to do with U.S. history and society.”

Mature societies naturally move toward secularism. And given the deliberately secular intentions of America's founding fathers, the US too would follow this path were it not for an anti-rational puritan strain (now largely evangelical and southern Baptist) that would rather institute a theocracy that dictates "morality and family values" (but leaves corporate behavior unleashed). Gingrich the historian indeed.
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SerranoJan. 20, 2012 - 10:17AM JST

Madverts - sigh Of course there should be exceptions in the case of rape.
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MadvertsJan. 20, 2012 - 03:56PM JST

Well I don't want the God Squad having a say in my life.

American religious fundamentalists aren't much adrift from the Taliban when it comes to tolerance.
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illsayitJan. 20, 2012 - 04:08PM JST

huh, you can still have an abortion if you want to right, I guess I just wouldnt want to be paying for it for somebody else, let it be their decision. It shouldnt be publicly funded-it almost seems like forced then.
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MadvertsJan. 20, 2012 - 04:20PM JST

" It shouldnt be publicly funded-it almost seems like forced then."

Neh?

Publicly funded abortion means people are being forced into abortions?

Did you really write that?
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unreconstructedJan. 21, 2012 - 08:58PM JST

plastic monkey

And given the deliberately secular intentions of America's founding fathers, the US too would follow this path were it not for an anti-rational puritan strain (now largely evangelical and southern Baptist) that would rather institute a theocracy that dictates "morality and family values" (but leaves corporate behavior unleashed). Gingrich the historian indeed.

Dude, you is funny. Puritans were the Brits, the religious idealists, who settled in New England. They wanted nothing to do with the Scots-Irish who came to Ameirca later, which is why the latter group basically ended up waaaaay down the coast (and from there moved inland), past the colonists in Virginia who were from the south of England and also rightly wary of all the rejects from the Celtic fringe.

Amazing how little you know of your own country (cough). But then you are s.o who had a degree and yet was working for below minimum wage in the relatively robust economy of the late 80s.
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plasticmonkeyJan. 21, 2012 - 10:21PM JST

Puritans were the Brits

I used the word 'puritan' with a small 'p'. That is, a strain of religious fundamentalism that is fairly ecumenical in America (from Baptists to Nazarenes to Calvinists to Methodists to Mormons), and which has a long history of being at odds with Enlightenment thinking in many different ways. The forces against humanistic rationalism cannot be isolated within a single ethnicity or denomination, but in the unique American experience they do share certain characteristics.

Some of your so-called 'rejects from the Celtic fringe' are included in this group, a substantial number of whom settled in New England.

Amazing how little you know of your own country (cough). But then you are s.o who had a degree and yet was working for below minimum wage in the relatively robust economy of the late 80s.

Come on now. No kicking, scratching, or pulling hair.