Russia to deploy new missiles by 2020

Excellent. Then Russia hs no reason to worry about the US missile defense shield since they won't be limited by it. The US and other countries should be able to deploy the shield without any further protest from Russia.

It's called a cold war.

We put weapons on Poland's border.

They put weapons on their border.

Then we put more weapons on border.

Then they put more weapons on border.

All this makes what kind of logic?

This is stupidy put in motion by george bush and the United States. < :-)

Wonderous! When the Russians deploy a new missile, the Americans, British and French are going to need a "upgraded" missile force. What is not mentioned is the three still have their Soviet era force. This is the start of a new cold war. adaydream, what is so wrong about having the ability to defend oneself? The Russians have defensive missiles as well. Some of them are on the Finish border. These "defensive" missiles carry nuclear warheads and perhaps can be targeted against land targets. (ABM-4 Gorgon, with a range of 350km and a 1 megaton warhead) The Russians are just looking for an excuse to deploy a new force and one that breaks the treaty with the United States, but I always claim that a treaty with Russia is not worth the paper it is written upon. For shame deploying 100 or more missiles in response to 10 defensive non atomic ones.

The United States pursuit of putting anti-missiles on Poland's border is what brought the Russian plan to deploy new missiles. Plain and simple.

Russia never mentioned any new missile plan until the United States pursued the placement of US weapons.

Oh yeah, wonderour!! < :-)

oops. wonderous. < :-)

adaydream, the Russians were just looking for an excuse. They have been planing for this since the Clinton years http://www.aeronautics.ru/icbmtest.htm Look at the date and tell me again that the Russians were not planning this new missile for at least 10 years. 10 kinetic kill weapons as an excuse to deploy a thousand perhaps more missiles capable of killing 100, 200, 500 million people. Oh the American weapons are not deployed yet and perhaps they may never be deployed. Perhaps they might be based in the United States along with 1000 plus new offensive atomic tipped missiles. The Russians are improving their defense missile force at this time. The Americans are going to have to respond to this new Russian threat. The present Russian force is more than effective at 100 to 1 ratio in offensive to defensive missiles. The Russians want to make a new cold war for their "prestige" to be restored.

There are so many nukes that 100 to 1 is nothing.

That just means that there are enough nukes to blow up the earth and turn it into catlitter.

YuriOtani you areticle doesn't say anything about deployment in 1997 or 2010 or 2020.

Do better than that please. < :-)

Fortunately now Obama is president elect and he can soon start to heal the rift between Russia and the US created anew by GWB. Thank god McCain and that lout of a VP he wanted didn't get into office -- the former in particular seemed pretty hell-bent on starting up the Cold War again.

They are talking like the US can't upgrade the missile shield defense system. Now we have to ask why they want to defeat the missile shield if not to launch an offensive.

Us, and them.

and after all, we're only ordinary men.

If only the big, bad United States would stop picking on poor lil Russia... ;)

If the author of article does not mind, I would like to correct as "old generation missile force" instead of "Elderly Missile Forces". They are old now & I wish them happy retirement.

If the missle shield were to protect Poland or the Czech republic, I would have no problem with it and neither could the Russians. But what the U.S. wants to put in those countries is for the defense of the United States.

How would the U.S. feel if the Russians made a deal with Canada and put installations that could shoot down our missiles from there? Damn right we would flushed with rage!

The name missile shield sounds great. It sounds so passive, and defensive only. But a shield over there is one thing and a shield up in your face is quite another.

If we can broker a deal with Canada and Mexico so that Russia can have the same thing as we want in Poland and Czech Republic, fine. If not, back off.

I hope something can be done to get the Russians for drop this plan for new missiles. What the world needs is for the current missiles to disappear without being replaced.

Russia and USA ,WMD missiles may get even better for global nukes warfare. Wish all nuke nations,will get their nukes missiles to disappear.

WW2 nukes wish started all these. Strategic arms limitation should get even better. This is stupidity by Russia/USA/China/India/Pakistan/Israel.

Better to defend via normal conventional arms,better for future for all even for the military industrial complexes.

All this concern about Russia building new nuclear technology to out do the US anti-missiles in Poland. Why all this concern george bush pulled us out of the NPT...

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/425825/72297

Critics, including Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, a South Dakota Democrat, said they feared the move could trigger a new arms race, particularly in Asia.

george bush used the attacks on 9/11 to take us out of the NPT.

So this new interest in nukes was ignited by george bush. < :-)

Wonder where Russia is going to get the money for these new missiles? The price of crude oil is under $40 American and still falling. Why would they expend so much for a weapon system that is not needed. If America had thousands of anti missiles it would be understandable but the number is under 100 and even if each one hit an incoming missile it would not change things. Why is Russia so afraid? If these weapons were made America would fall behind and would have to "launch on warning" Why is Russia trying to bring back the worse of the cold war?

Russia will get the mnoney from the same places we get money. They'll borrow.

They are only standing up to the threat being placed on their borders. They are standing up against the threat created by the US influence to go into Georgia. They see that the US has been too involved in their part of the globe.

If Russia was to to back to Cuba and put anti-nuclear missiles in Cuba, the US would go berserk. You would see the same kneejerk reaction out of the US as you are seeing in Russia. Especially if george bush was still president. he'd be screaming NUKE!!! NUKE!! NUKE!!

Russia is only approaching the situation the same way we would. Absolutely no different. < :-)

Putin will have died of old age by then. Perhaps more reasoned people will have replaced him. Talk about a cold war mentality, Putin is it. Probably because it's the only thing that keeps him in power, I guess.

adaydream, ah the 10 missiles are defensive and do NOT have nuke warheads. They are not really on the border. Do not think America would be too concerned over Russia placing a DEFENSIVE missile system in Cuba. A waste of money since there is no threat to them. Why does Georgia have to do with the Russia craving to be able to kill 200 million Americans? Take note that Russian Ships have been in the West without protest. Again why does Russia want to return to the Cold War days? They should spend their scarce money on their crumbling economy and not waste it on an unneeded weapons system that will yield NO benifit to her people.

The Russians making statements about their capability is something I view with skepticism. The last time the Russians were confronted with a crisis most of the hostages ended up dead and even that bundle was deemed a success. They just cant be trusted.

YuriOtani

"why does Russia want to return to the Cold War days? "

Because they don't want the US to dictate what Russia has to do. Russia wants to be the equal adversary. Or even more, Russia is trying to tie up with China to be a bigger power than the US. You were saying that the Russians were just looking for an excuse. Yes indeed, but GWB gave this opportunity to Russia.

FromEurope, What "opportunity"? The right to be able to possibly kill every person on the planet, This new class of missiles might make it possible for the Russians to launch a first strike to take out the American atomic missile force. If they can catch them on the ground they could hold the American and European cities "hostage" and perhaps force the west into complete surrender or so they hope. The Americans would have to launch their missile force on warning. (they would have minutes to make a decision) If they perceive (right or wrong) of a Russian launch, they would fire their missiles (all of them) before they were destroyed. If this happens the Russians would launch everything and perhaps on Europe as well. The British, French and China would launch their missiles. Perhaps an exchange between Israel-Iran and Pakistan-India? This would kill most if not all human life. They do this to be America equal? They do this out of an inferiority complex. I suspect the Russians would of done this with no excuse. This missile force will not give Russia an advantage at all. American will meet force with force. The Russian plan is pure madness!

YuriOtani

You have a kind of dangerous thought. You presume that those missiles are eventually to be used to attack the other countries. Fortunately, for decades, the US, USSR, China, UK or France developed the nuclear weapons just to prevent the first attack from an enemy. Since Hiroshima and Nagasaki, no nation used the nuclear bomb. And I think it will be so another decades. It’s like two persons standing face to face with revolver in their hands.

I hope the leaders of those nations don’t have the same way of thinking as you. They put those missiles for the prevention and not attack. Of course there can be a possibility, even if it’s very slight, that one of the leader use the missile first without attacked. And precisely that’s why those nations want to have more weapons than the others.

There is no feelings of the inferiority complex from Russia or any other countries that possess the nuclear missiles. Because they have the same technology. Only difference is the number of the missile. Believe me, not only Russia, but also China is developing more and more WMD. It’s not the question of the advantage to attack but to prevent the attack.

It seems to me that you have an irrational hatred against Russia. I don’t support Putin’s policy, not more than Bush’s. What Americans do is not better than what Russians do.

Don’t forget, the only nation that actually had and used the atomic bomb was America. Since there were many countries that got it, many war and conflict happened, but no country used it for more than 60 years. I hope that it will stay in this way.

I think, and I hope that the humans are not that stupid like you presume to be.

Since President Reagan, the US and the USSR started to abandon the nuclear heads. But Bush reversed the situation. Why do you think that the US foreign policy is better than the one of Russia?

The American policy is to prevent the attack. These weapons do not pose a danger to the Russians. President Bush wants to reduce the missile and warhead count even more. Prime Minister and President in fact Putin wants to be able to bully and threaten Russia's way to power and respect. He wants the "prestige" using the ability to kill millions of people. President Bush wants to ability to defend from such an attack being the only other choice is mad (mutually assured destruction) I am worried about an accident, a mistake. These new missiles may make it possible to destroy the American missile force on the ground. They may even carry conventional warheads. The American defensive ones have to wait until the other side launches. It requires an action from the other side. Offensive missiles require no such action. The problem is time, what would an American or Russian President do if their military tells them they have detected a launch against them. He or she has only a few minutes to make a decision. The more one waits the less likely their missiles will get off the ground before getting destroyed. It does not have to be a real attack only the perception of one. Remember the Russians have their own defensive missiles. Their plan could be to take out most of the American missiles with a first strike and then get the others at a favorable ratio. Then hold the American and European cities hostage. Again the American defensive missiles require action by the other side, offensive ones do not. Like the tv ad says, its 3am and the phone rings. Countless people will live or die with that decision. Do nothing and be force to surrender, launch and assure that your country dies with the other. What is your decision?

Yuri Otani

The American policy is to prevent the attack.

It's the same thing for the Rusians or other countries. Why The others can't prevent the attack from the hostile enemies?

These weapons do not pose a danger to the Russians.

As I said, the US is the potential danger, as it's the only nation that actually used the WMD. Bush & Co actually threatened Iran to use the small nuclear bomb if Iran doesn't stop the Pultonium enrichment.

Again the American defensive missiles require action by the other side, offensive ones do not. Like the tv ad says, its 3am and the phone rings. Countless people will live or die with that decision.

What makes you think that Russian's missiles are not defensive but offensive? Your opinion is very biased.

FromEurope, "What makes you think that Russian's missiles are not defensive but offensive? Your opinion is very biased"

The story lists them as ICBM's (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) and not ABMs (anti ballistic missiles) they have a range of 10000 miles, fixed or mobile base and multiple warheads. This is from the story and not my "biased".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ballistic_missile http://www.wonderland.org.nz/rusabgm.htm

"As I said, the US is the potential danger, as it's the only nation that actually used the WMD. Bush & Co actually threatened Iran to use the small nuclear bomb if Iran doesn't stop the Plutonium enrichment."

Russia has at least 100 ABM’s located around Moscow, not sure it there are any other sites. Israel has some capacity as well as India.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/tass098.htm

My last post on this subject but think what could be done with this money and effort if used on their space programs? Want some "prestige", how about being the first to put a base on the moon or mars. In any event Russia should talk to the new American President and not start with threats. Even if America would not place these missiles in Poland, Russia will still continue to develop the missiles stated in this article.

The story lists them as ICBM's (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) and not ABMs (anti ballistic missiles) they have a range of 10000 miles, fixed or mobile base and multiple warheads. This is from the story and not my "biased".

I said your opinion is biased,, because no matter the number of the missiles, America or Russia can attack if they wish. America is not better than Russia. You must admit that you are pro-America. But objectively,both of them are not trustworthy in this issue.

My last post on this subject but think what could be done with this money and effort if used on their space programs?

I understand your wish. But they prefer to invest in the weaponry. Do you know that it's one of the biggest business in the world?

My opinion is that you shouldn't blame only Russia, but also the US. For me, no one is better than the other.