Russia urges North Korea to reconsider rocket launch

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    globalwatcher

    How come China is very quiet?

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    AKBfan

    Good for Russia. But anyway likely to be a damp squib.

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    Farmboy

    Good for Russia, but I wonder who had to promise what to get them to come out with such a statement. It's something that has been coming out in US position statements for some time now, but I didn't expect to hear this from such a source.

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    nandakandamanda

    Good for Russia. Somewhere I read that China has also expressed disquiet over this.

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    Elbuda Mexicano

    My guess is China is too close to the DPRK for comfort, maybe Beijing has been getting calls from DC, Tokyo, Seoul, etc..and they called Moscow to ask them to voice their opinions?? I do hope the DPRK's silly missile just falls into the sea! Maybe near the Senkaku islands to add a bit of drama.

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    Saul Schimek

    China is probably too busy being bellicose to really bother supporting The Magic Kingdom of the North. Maybe they've run out of paitence with the Norks

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    TheDevilsAssistant

    North Korea announced Saturday that it would carry out its second long-range rocket launch

    China and Russia better put the pressure on. The rocket may end up in thier own backyard....long-range missle my ass!

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    smithinjapan

    It's classic they are calling it 'scientific research', given Japan's lies about conducting science. Good on Russia for taking a stand.

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    smithinjapan

    Oh come now! why the thumbs down? NK could call it scientific research, and if you bash it they could fall back on the argument that rocket launches over the sea of Japan are a cultural tradition!

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    Frungy

    Who would you trust with a sword, an experienced fencer, or a 5 year old kid? I'd rather hand the sword to the fencer any day of the week, then if I get hit I know it's on purpose, whereas with the kid I just hear an "oooopss!!", and then blinding pain.

    Frankly North Korea is a menace, and not just because it's evil, but because it's evil AND incompetent, a far more dangerous combination. If I were China I'd be politely asking them to please not launch, because, like the 5 year old with the sword, everyone around them is in danger.

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    Outta here

    Smithinjapan,

    Great comment what a classic. Maybe the north can just slap a research sticker on the side and alls good..... Isn't that how it works Japan.

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    Konsta

    FarmboyDec. 03, 2012 - 04:55PM JST Good for Russia, but I wonder who had to promise what to get them to come out with such a statement. It's something that has been coming out in US position statements for some time now, but I didn't expect to hear this from such a source.

    What a revelation for you, Farmboy, and for the one, who put a +1 for your post (which I am not going to touch :)). It is usual for Western mass media to create a feeling, that whoever is not supported by the US, must be surely, automatically supported by Russia. That is why it is important to read international mass media. You might actually learn something new about the position of the other states, which your own trustworthy mass media would prefer you not to "expect".

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    Farmboy

    Konsta, You are making sweeping interpretations, in a condescending, far beyond anything I've written. I'm referring specifically to the language that North Korea is launching a satellite as a disguised ballistic missile test. If you think Russia has previously stated this, please support your idea by providing a link, and stop being rude.

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    Farmboy

    Correction: condescending ----> condescending way

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    Konsta

    FarmboyDec. 04, 2012 - 08:07AM JST Konsta, You are making sweeping interpretations, in a condescending, far beyond anything I've written. I'm referring specifically to the language that North Korea is launching a satellite as a disguised ballistic missile test. If you think Russia has previously stated this, please support your idea by providing a link, and stop being rude.

    Ok, sarcasm aside, I'll try to find links for you. Russia's position with respect to NK was always plus or minus similar to that of the US, thus my sarcasm. Moreover, several years ago, NK wanted Russia out of the negotiation table, and aimed to negotiate only with the US (money) and China (support). NK is Chinese responsibility and bringing Russia to NK's supporters just for the company sake is ... , well, provoked my comment. But I'll try to find explicit references for you. This article, by the way, is one of them.

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    Konsta

    Farmboy,

    Here it goes:

    1. In 2006 Russia supported United Nations Security Council Resolution 1695 in July, condemning 2006 North Korean missile test.

    2. On May 2007, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a presidential decree prohibiting Russian state and government agencies, industrial, commercial, financial and transport companies, and enterprises, firms and banks from exporting or transiting military hardware, equipment, materials, or know-how which could be used in North Korea's nuclear or non-nuclear weapons programs.

    Reference: http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/dprk/2007/dprk-070530-rianovosti01.htm

    1. After the North Korean nuclear test on 25 May 2009, North Korea's relations with China and Russia were taken to a different level. Russia, fearing that North Korea's success could lead to a nuclear war, joined China, France, Japan, South Korea, United Kingdom, and the United States in starting a resolution that could include new sanctions.
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    Konsta

    Continues:

    The Russian news agencies were outraged when North Korea even threatened to attack neighboring South Korea after it joined a U.S. led plan to check vessels suspected of carrying equipment for weapons of mass destruction.

    On 15 June 2009, China and Russia have supported the UN sanctions on North Korea.

    Medvedev signed a decree implementing intensified United Nations Security Council sanctions against Pyongyang's nuclear programs.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorthKorea%E2%80%93Russiarelations

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    Konsta

    Thus, it is not surprising, that "Russia urges North Korea to reconsider rocket launch".

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    Farmboy

    Konsta,

    Thank you for taking the time to provide informative links. On my part, I was specifically reacting to the language being used, "disguised ballistic missile test," which I had read here in April 2012: http://www.examiner.com/article/north-korea-missile-launch-was-successful-at-angering-the-us as well as in another article back in 2011. Both came from the US, and I was surprised to hear the Russians use almost exactly the same phrasing, and not accepting at all that it might just be a satellite launch. I imagined policies between the US and Russia had been worked out together, and that there might be some dealmaking going on. Russia certainly doesn't want to see any more military actions, nuclear or not, near their borders.

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    Konsta

    Farmboy, I apologize for my earlier intonation. Whatever my excuses might be, it should have been different. Worse that, I felt supported by the data and allowed this inexcusable outburst. As to my personal opinion, I support the position of the group of 6 towards NK's nuclear program. NK must be given reasonable insurances of security and forcibly cleared of all traces of WMD and affiliated military programs.

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    Alex Tokyo

    My guess is China is too close to the DPRK for comfort, maybe Beijing has been getting calls from DC, Tokyo, Seoul, etc..and they called Moscow to ask them to voice their opinions?? I do hope the DPRK's silly missile just falls into the sea! Maybe near the Senkaku islands to add a bit of drama.

    You talk about Beijing, DC, Tokyo, etc as if they are 1 person. Must be nice to have a 6 year old's understanding of world politics. Ignorance is bliss. As is stupidity.

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    Farmboy

    Farmboy, I apologize for my earlier intonation.

    No problem.

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