Russians say 'nyet' to McCain fundraising appeal
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yabits
This is very, very funny! Especially for those who have their panties in a bunch about Obama getting money from foreign sources.
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Altria
Ah McCain, you've done it again!
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coulrophobic
Obama has received tens of millions in donations from overseas. Even major media outlets are beginning to take notice. But yeah, we need to look at one letter McCain's staff sent out by mistake. Is it any wonder blogs are killing the old media...
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SezWho2
Blogs killing the old media? I don't think so. The Internet is killing the old media. However, the blogs do live off the media.
Meanwhile, I await Iran's response to McCain's funding request.
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Altria
When McCain rears his head and flies overseas looking for funding, where does he go? Russia, that's where!
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SuperLib
heh no....you can't accept funds from foreigners. But you can accept funds from American citizens living overseas.....like me. ;)
I read some of your earlier links. It looked like it was presented by lawyers hired to create a case rather than people actually checking into the information.
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adaydream
“Dear Friend,” begins the six-page letter to Churkin, asking for up to $5,000 to defeat Sen Barack Obama
I love this. A mistake by the McCain campign.
I'm sure that Mr. Churkin just appreciated the sincere Dear Friend
Today in the mail I got a FedEx envelope from John McCain to send him a check by FedEx. I love it. < :-)
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TettoeAung
What a pity, we wouldn't have another debate. Should there be one, McCain should say, "When I look into Putin's eyes, what do I see - NY and ET!" This is more balanced for the eyes.
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smithinjapan
Hahahaha!! HILARIOUS! man the few remaining McCain supporters must REALLY be bashing their heads onto their tables in misery. It's just one embarrassment after another for them, with the knowledge that Obama is going to win to boot!
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smithinjapan
This is going to get HEAPS of laughs on late night TV, as if McCain/Paling weren't getting enough laughs already.
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goodDonkey
coulrophobic
Obama hasn't received any money from outside the U.S.. Never happened. If it did you would have posted an actual link to a major media source.
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Helter_Skelter
Putin is itching for Obama to get into office. He can finally reassemble the Soviet Union without fear of consequences.
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skipthesong
this shouldn't be allowed.
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Sarge
McCain did this as a joke. Putin is salivating at the prospect of an Obama presidency.
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smithinjapan
Ah, you guys and your 'Obama = socialist state' beliefs; it's really quite laughable in how sad it is.
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smithinjapan
sarge: "McCain did this as a joke."
I'm sorry, bud, but while he may have done it by accident, there's NO WAY he did it as a joke, because the joke is 100% on HIM! He is a frigging laughing stock over this now, too! The Russians are passing it around and laughing about it like it's the funniest thing in the world, and all news outlets, media, and late night will be picking up on it as well. And you think McCain did this on purpose? Hahaha... That wouldn't even be saving face, sargie, so nice try, but no cigar.
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Helter_Skelter
As is every enemy of the U.S.
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Altria
You mean every country except for Israel?!
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Sarge
"late night will be picking up on it"
No way!
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Everton2
coulrophobic wrote: "Obama has received tens of millions in donations from overseas. Even major media outlets are beginning to take notice".
In one post you are accusing Powell of being a racist because he has endorsed Obama, and now you are talking about campaign contributions from overseas. This is a discussion bored for the exchange of ideas and not your fantasies
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Nippon5
GoodDonkey
Here is a link.. It doesnt say the money was illegal but he did recieve 3.3 million form outside the US..
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/us/politics/07foreign.html
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Nippon5
Doh hit enter to soon..
it also says McCain got 516k from overseas too.. and that as long as the money is from a greencard holder or a citizen living abroad the money is ok....
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yabits
coulrophobic writes: "But yeah, we need to look at one letter McCain's staff sent out by mistake."
Had such a letter been sent by mistake by the Obama campaign, you'd be soft-pedaling it like the independent you claim you are. Yeah, suuuure you would.
Obama receiving "tens of millions" from overseas? Reminds us of your false claim about the amount of money Rangel's organization received. No distortion of reality is too outrageous for you, is it?
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goodDonkey
Thank you Nippon5. Obviously another gaffe on my part. I said the exact opposite in my 03:11 PM JST - 21st October comment. I never check any of RR's links and rarely read any of his posts whatever screen name he is using at the time. Call this spin, call it what you like but I thought it was kind of cool that citizens of other countries could be trying to donate money to our election; they are interested in us. Now I know we can't make it legal for outside entities be they corporate, NGO's, governments, political organizations or individuals to influence our elections with money. It just made me think when I read the NYT article that I live in a country that so dominates the world stage that there are concerned individuals who want McCain or Obama to win for whatever reason they may have. I used to feel a sense of bravado because I was born in such a powerful nation but now I feel neither proud nor ashamed to be the number one country of influence and power. I just want to be a responsible citizen of the world.
In the past I used to be careful not to take a risk by making unfounded claims. I can tell you why I make rash statements on JT. I am frustrated by the comments I see as vile. They are not coming from the majority of those with differing opinions than me. The other factor is one of competition. However, I think that it can be dangerous in politics and can be just sick when competition in a courtroom becomes about who wins instead of trying to enforce our laws in a just manner.
Nippon5 you mentioned that this is a place for you to "speak" English and debate. Mine is not the dilemma of speaking English because I live in the U.S. but rather it also gives me a chance to engage in debate. In real life I don't like to argue so much. I have many friends that share the same views but when I am with others who don't share my opinion I want to find grounds of common interest and enjoy their company. I am also fortunate to enjoy composing comments. It is not a struggle I have to endure just so someone can understand my thoughts. In a sense some of us know each other here at JT. But everything we know about each other and feel and even imagine is through words. Words we type and words we read. So I don't like to be wrong. I was totally wrong in this instance. I forget sometimes that with my personality people can appreciate the part of me that is wrong occasionally more then the person who always wants to be right. I also realized that although I know some of those with differing opinions only by their words I would feel a great deal of pain if anything truly bad happened to them.
The law seems to be to be pretty fair although many may not like a person with a green card to be able to donate. I think that is good because if they have a green card they are in the process of becoming an America. Let them experience our bloodsport of politics. You put your money down on the table and you can lose it and end up with the other candidate. But when you place your bet and win what do you get? You bet on a politician and you got a politician.
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Nippon5
I did find a little confusion on the amount, some of the news sites said 33 million others said 3.3 million, Im not sure which one is correct..
My wife and I (she is a greencard holder) never agree on who, but this time we both didnt like either of the big two:) She voted but I dont know who it was she voted for, I never ask, I just know it wasnt the big two...
As far as McCain getting a letter to Russia's Un rep... Most likely it was just an address to send to and not the person.. Not a big deal, Obama sent one to my father and hes been dead for two years.... He didnt complain too much about it:)
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Nessie
What, like from Cheney's Halliburton, headquartered in Dubai?
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Business/Story?id=2942429&page=1
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Nippon5
Nessie to bad the have a Corporate office in Houston so they can give give give...
The article actually said they have that office... last paragraph...
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JoeBigs
Can we say that McBush is now trying to get Commie money? Is this sad when gooooood old McBush is soooooooo desperate that he is willing to side with our old foes?
Now who is the true traitor? LOL
Goooooooo Maverick sell out America to try to get elected!LOL
Go Rebuplican because it is so RED that you can not tell the difference between Palin or Putin.
Oh yeah Baby, the party of Reagan has sold out!
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MASSWIPE
"Putin is itching for Obama to get into office. He can finally reassemble the Soviet Union without fear of consequences."
1) How do you know that? and 2) no, Putin can't. Russia is suffering absolute population decline on the order of about 700,000 people per year. It won't be able to reassemble anything for years to come. The country is a giant gas station largely dependent on global oil prices (which are now at half their peak price from earlier this year). The main stock exchange in Moscow is a joke, having shut down several times in the last few weeks because of plunging share prices. Russian natives are basically xenophobic and won't allow immigration to make up for the population loss.
It would be nice if you examined the facts rather than quoting from Rush Limbaugh.
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Simon_Foston
You might recall that he wasn't exactly quaking in his boots at the prospect of the US reaction to the conflict in Georgia. Neither should he have been, as the Bush administration's response was feeble.
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coulrophobic
Putin wants Obama for prez.
As does Castro, Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Khaddaffi, whoever runs N Korea, and the PLA.
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smithinjapan
coulrophobic: The whole world wants him, bud... including a majority if your own country. You seem to be among an extremely small percentage of people who don't. Fortunately, no one is listening, and no one cares. It's out with people like McBush, and in with those with some new ideas, like Obama.
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MASSWIPE
"Putin wants Obama for prez. As does Castro, Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Khaddaffi, whoever runs N Korea, and the PLA."
Unverifiable speculation. We do know, however, that tens of millions of proud, patriotic, open-minded Americans want Obama for president.
The petro-dictatorships of Iran, Venezuela, and Russia had a great run during the Bush II Era. Oil prices hit a peak of $147, thanks in large part to the incompetence and inaction of the Bush administration. North Korea's leaders had a good time, too, taking advantage of Bush's desire for one (just one) foreign policy success during his disastrous presidency. Look who's no longer on America's "terrorist nation" list. And look who's driven a wedge between America and Japan with the abduction issue.
Thankfully, in less than 3 months all this amateurish monkey business in the White House will end.
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yabits
What? Did McCain come up dry in his campaign solicitations from them too?
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YangYong
It's amateur goof off time with the Palin McCain show! (Cancelled after the pilot)
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Helter_Skelter
As does Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Quida, Muslim Brotherhood,...
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adaydream
So does adaydream, Helter_Skelter.
I think I'm going to get my wish and Barack Obama and Joe Biden will win the election.
Ya think? < :-)
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MASSWIPE
"Putin wants Obama for prez. As does Castro, Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Khaddaffi, whoever runs N Korea, and the PLA. As does Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Quida, Muslim Brotherhood,..."
Helter_Skelter, I don't understand the point of responding to you, but here goes: I beg to differ. What I THINK (I'm not as confident about reading minds as you are, apparently) the above organizations and individuals would really like, more than anything, is a third Bush term. Nothing suits them better than a stubborn, bumbling, incompetent US President.
Thankfully, the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution will block that possibility.
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Sarge
MASSWIPE - "What I THINK the above organizations and individuals would really like, more tham anything, is a third Bush term."
I beg to differ. Bush is what's kept them from doing any more damage than what they've been able to do.
"bumbling, incompetent US President"
If Obama's elected, that's what you'll be seeing.
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Helter_Skelter
MASSWIPE
Then you shouldn't.
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Nessie
They have lots of offices, but home is where the heart is. And at Halliburton, the heart is where the taxman ain't. They're tax avoiders.
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EurajReturns
Helter
You obviously don't see the point of responding to the people who show how silly your kind of thinking is either. It's no better than me coming in and thanking the Russians for not siding with the Klansmen and other right-wing extremists calling for Obama's head that are supporting McCain.
Anyhow... I'm sure the McCain campaign will be surprised to hear this. Or, not really.
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Simon_Foston
The current administration has completely squandered America's ability to stop anyone from doing anything they like. Its feeble reaction to the conflict in Georgia is a stark example of this. Iran remains defiant and pretty much unchallenged, terrorists operate with impunity in Pakistan, the Taliban are resurgent and the horrors of Zimbabwe and Darfur are totally ignored. America has nothing to combat the damage that is being done except a dangerously overstretched military, a knacked economy and a reputation tarnished by images of Abu Graib, Guantanamo and unconditional support for the Saudis and Israelis. Such is the damage that Bush has done that in many of the most dangerous parts of the world opposing America is increasingly seen as an extremely righteous thing to do. All he has done is weaken a nation.
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Helter_Skelter
Eurajreturns:
"Hamas terrorist organization has expressed "hope" Sen. Barack Obama will win the presidential elections and "change" America's foreign policy."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61631
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Simon_Foston
I know this is from the British press, but it reports a message on a pro-Al Qaida website. Looks like those enemies of America just don't know which way to turn:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alqaidalinked-website-backs-mccain-as-president-969224.html
Based on that logic it's almost surprising the Russians don't want to give McCain money. If the Russians really want to be America's enemies, then his presidency would give them the perfect excuse to act against America's interests.
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Simon_Foston
This is an interview from The Washington Times, a paper that I understand doesn't have a liberal bias, and is about the Bush administration:
"We just let things get completely out of hand... spending, the conduct of the war in Iraq for years, growth in the size of government, larger than any time since the Great Society, laying a $10 trillion debt on future generations of America, owing $500 billion to China, obviously, failure to both enforce and modernize the [financial] regulatory agencies that were designed for the 1930s and certainly not for the 21st century, failure to address the issue of climate change seriously... Those are just some of them."
Who delivered such a damning indictment of the incumbent President? John McCain.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/23/mccain-lambastes-bush-years/
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