Sanders, Clinton woo key voters in South Carolina

Bernie Sanders is the only serious candidate - the only one who loves the American people more than he loves himself.

Bernie Sanders is the only serious candidate - the only one who loves the American people more than he loves himself.

As much as I think think these libs are complete morons, I think all of the candidates love their countries, whether it's left or right, the problem is, what some of these candidates propose and how they want to implement their ideas and policies, but they all equally love their countries. As for the current president, I wonder.....

For once I fully agree with (most of) one of your posts Bass.

the right wing in this country is continuing its war on women

WOW! Sanders is losing it.

When you have the right wing trying to shut down Planned Parenthood, make abortions as difficult as possible to get, and controlling other things entirely related to women's rights, it's a pretty justified comment.

When you have the right wing trying to shut down Planned Parenthood

Haven't you seen the videos of Planned Parenthood doctors selling unborn body parts? Where they describe how to perform abortions in order to preserve the brain as much as possible?

So deal with those issues. Shutting down a service that helps thousands and thousands of women across the country every day is a war on women. It's like nuking an area because it has malaria mosquitos in it.

I'm not following this issue, but can you give me an example of how the Reps want to "shut down" the service?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-votes-to-cut-planned-parenthood-funds/

Thanks for the MSM link, but, I see this as more of a reaction to the scandal than anything else.

It's an overraction, and it wages war on the thousands and thousands of women who rely on planned parenthood.

You're probably right. But I wouldn't call it a "war", that term is too easily used. BTW, I didn't junk you.

I wouldn't call it a "war", that term is too easily used.

I actually agree. I agree more with the sentiment of what Sanders was saying than his wording of it.

'War on this' and 'war on that' is a war on common sense.

When you have the right wing trying to shut down Planned Parenthood, make abortions as difficult as possible to get, and controlling other things entirely related to women's rights, it's a pretty justified comment.

That is just a complete lie. No conservative is saying or wanting to outright band Planned Parenthood, they know what a backlash that would have, the argument has always have been about restricting and defunding a the provisions that use tax payer money to fund either later term abortions or the distribution and sale of body parts, that has always been the center of this issue and PP can still function by providing care for women without the tax payer feeling the burden of being part of something implicit and sinister. If it's privately funded, then so be it, but publicly as a tax payer, I have the right to NOT be a part of something I completely abhor.

No conservative is saying or wanting to outright band Planned Parenthood, they know what a backlash that would have, the argument has always have been about restricting and defunding a the provisions that use tax payer money to fund either later term abortions or the distribution and sale of body parts

Planned parenthood doesn't use public funding for abortions, so your comment doesn't make sense.

...but when fetal tissue is instrumental in the development of new treatments, I seriously doubt those so vehemently against the practice will reject them simply because of its origin.

but when fetal tissue

please...lets not hide the facts. Why can't you say unborn human?

Not right wing. People who know there are condoms and other methods. Laveling tight wigf to promote money making organization. Hysterectomy, some girls chose.

Fizzbit, the miscarriage rate for humans is estimated at around 30% to 50%. That's quite a large number of "unborn humans", wouldn't you say? Life is messy, and certain trade-offs are required. One thing that annoys me is that anti-abortionists are often quite stingy regarding social services.If the state is to require a woman to bear an unwanted child, the state should be required to provide funding and facilities to raise that child to adulthood. Rather Dickensian, but that is the only rational result of the anti-abortion group's demands.

Planned parenthood doesn't use public funding for abortions, so your comment doesn't make sense.

Uh-huh, riiight....

Planned Parenthood reported receiving record taxpayer funding in the last reporting year, while also performing a record number of abortions, according to the organization’s new annual report released this week.

The nation’s largest abortion provider maintained its infamous title, performing 333,964 abortions—a record for the organization that received 45 percent of its revenues from taxpayer-funded government sources during the 2011–2012 fiscal year. According to analysis by the Susan B. Anthony List, Planned Parenthood has performed almost 1 million abortions in the past three years alone.

Despite the organization’s prominence— performing roughly one out of every four abortions in America—Planned Parenthood has ridden the waves of taxpayer funding to millions of dollars in annual surpluses. Last year, like many before it, Planned Parenthood saw a very comfortable income, reporting excess revenues exceeding $87 million and net assets of more than $1.2 billion.

In the face of large surpluses and increased abortions, supporters and activists are still quick to point to the provision of other services to justify continued and expanded federal funding of the organization. But a closer look at Planned Parenthood’s own report and actions still point to a strong emphasis on abortion procedures.

http://dailysignal.com/2013/01/09/planned-parenthood-sets-record-for-abortions-and-government-funding/

and that was in 2013. Don't give me that crap, Liberals are trying so hard to come up with hoards of excuses to make it seem as if they get the funding out of thin air. No one is that dumb, NO ONE.

...but when fetal tissue is instrumental in the development of new treatments,

You mean, the liberals euphemism for body parts. At least, I like it when liberals can be a bit more original.

I seriously doubt those so vehemently against the practice will reject them simply because of its origin.

Woooow!

Re-read your article bass. It's deviously written combining sentences with the fact that planned parenthood helps with abortions, and that they receive public funding, but never actually stating that the funding is used for abortions.

Now read the something that isn't deviously written: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood

Planned Parenthood receives above a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $528 million in 2014).[46][53] By law, federal funding cannot be allocated for abortions

So not only do they not receive government funding for abortions, they legally cannot receive government funding for abortions.

I don't expect you to have heard all this in the bubble though.

Last time I checked, the right to receive an abortion had been confirmed fully constitutional by the Supreme Court, whereas the ban on federal funding for such is simply a legal statute. Some may conflate the two, but they do so at their own risk. Imagine if liberals did the same with the Second Amendment.

Planned Parenthood uses taxpayer monies for what? Birth control, mammograms and abortions? Two of the three are readily available at many doctors offices. Abortion and for profit is planned parenthood. Aborting as a means for birth control is in humane! Planned Parenthood facilities predomonently in minority neighborhoods is selective and racial or is it due to no insurance?

Abortion is legal but shoul all taxpayers be forced to contribute to the practice?

Should USA have the highest cooperate tax in the world? And Sanders wants more? Why are reduced tax rates incentive in creating new business? Seems like liberal/socialists have a other motivations....

Tax money is not used for abortions. You would have to exit the bubble to find that information.

The GOP is trying to defund all of Planned Parenthood including health screenings, breast cancer checks, etc. Real scorched earth stuff. Had they done a more targeted approach they would probably have some support, but they didn't. They tried to outdo each other in their outrage speeches and the details kind of got left behind.

Now you have bass and Mark here being good little Republicans repeating the bubble narrative. Put some clothes on, guys. Just admit that the bubble gave you false info and let's move on with our lives.

Super....with Obamacare planned parenthood is no longer needed, right? Last I heard mammograms and other screenings are available everywhere. Abortions are available at hospitals. Planned parenthood funding comes from where? The borrowed Chinese dollars or is it the printing press dollars? Which one? Either way, Federal Funding is taxpayer monies.

Abortion is legal but shoul all taxpayers be forced to contribute to the practice?

Are you not reading the comments? I just posted two posts before yours that it's illegal to provide public funds for abortion. So no, all taxpayers are not forced to contribute.

It's deviously written combining sentences with the fact that planned parenthood helps with abortions, and that they receive public funding, but never actually stating that the funding is used for abortions.

Yeah, uh-huh, Strange, sorry, nice try, but that is just pure BS. When the GOP controlled House and Senate proposed to blocking that ONE provision of federal funding to PP for the sales and distribution of fetal baby parts. The DNC went Bat bleep crazy. Now, if there was some validity to your argument, the DNC wouldn't have made a fuss about it. Kind of like the vote ID situation. I know all too well as a Californian and living in a cesspool state of liberals, I know this for a fact. They have been trying for years to juggle these numbers and get the people to think, their money is not being used to fund something so heinous, because if they did, even in liberal deep blue California the majority of people would be appalled and rightfully so. You are an outsider, as a person who grew up in the greater L.A. area and who has a sister that is a liberal and works in government as a social worker. I have seen a lot. And I will say, the Dems are very good at smoke and mirrors and deceptions, I will give them that for sure.

Last time I checked, the right to receive an abortion had been confirmed fully constitutional by the Supreme Court, whereas the ban on federal funding for such is simply a legal statute.

That WAS until people found out what PP were doing. No one objects to safe and legal abortion, if it is an absolute necessary thing, such as rape or incest or if the mothers life is in danger. It was never seen or to be used as a means of birth control.

Some may conflate the two, but they do so at their own risk. Imagine if liberals did the same with the Second Amendment.

Liberals are already trying their best to eradicate all guns.

Planned Parenthood uses taxpayer monies for what? Birth control, mammograms and abortions? Two of the three are readily available at many doctors offices.

Exactly!

Abortion and for profit is planned parenthood. Aborting as a means for birth control is in humane! Planned Parenthood facilities predomonently in minority neighborhoods is selective and racial or is it due to no insurance?

Abortion is legal but shoul all taxpayers be forced to contribute to the practice?

Absolutely NOT IF their money is being used for the harvesting and sale distribution of baby body parts, they have the absolute right to object and if they want money for that, they can easily raise that money privately, I have no doubt about that. The is one of the issues where Ryan suggested next year to let the funding run out and then it would have to go back through congress and then the House can strip that one provision out of the funding without denying the entire funding for PP. That would be a huge relief and then the Dems and libs can't complain, because they would get their funding and the many of the tax payers wouldn't have to carry that burden of being complicit in something that they feel adamant about it.

This is the root crux of the problem and terrified and want to peddle to the public that this is not happening with federal money because they know what would happen if they fully would admit to harvesting and selling of baby parts. PP would be completely shut down, so what would you do if you were them, knowing this? You would use every lie at your disposal to dissuade and dismantle the oppositions argument, I'm not blaming them, but as a conservative that lives in California 6 months out of the year and has a sister that is a liberal and a former Obama supporter and surrounded by liberals, (when I leave the sanctuary of Orange County, the only safe refuge in Southern CA.) I get to see and hear what a lot of outsiders don't and everyone with a functioning cerebral cortex knows this about PP. At least in the Blue States.

Should USA have the highest cooperate tax in the world? And Sanders wants more? Why are reduced tax rates incentive in creating new business? Seems like liberal/socialists have a other motivations....

Spot on.

if there was some validity to your argument

It's not my argument, it's fact. It's illegal for government funding to be used for abortions. Planned Parenthood doesn't use government funding for abortions. I'm sorry you live in a bubble where they choose to pretend facts are debatable, but it's not a debatable point.

It's not my argument, it's fact.

Sorry, but I am not going to listen to an outsider, knowing and having a die-hard liberal sister that has a job working and dealing with Children that knows the issue better than me who has the access. So I get it first hand and a deeper insight to this explosive issue. Wiki can write and edit what they want on this issue.

It's illegal for government funding to be used for abortions.

Oh, brother, you are preaching to the choir! I know that for a fact, but that doesn't mean it's not done.

Planned Parenthood doesn't use government funding for abortions. I'm sorry you live in a bubble where they choose to pretend facts are debatable, but it's not a debatable point.

Of course they do and have been doing, that's why I said....

The is one of the issues where Ryan suggested next year to let the funding run out and then it would have to go back through congress and then the House can strip that one provision out of the funding without denying the entire funding for PP. That would be a huge relief and then the Dems and libs can't complain, because they would get their funding and the many of the tax payers wouldn't have to carry that burden of being complicit in something that they feel adamant about it.

And that makes the Dems more nervous, because now they have to deal with a hawkish Paul Ryan that won't let this rest until it comes up again for a vote on renewing the funding. But again, the Dems have nothing to worry about, that part of the provision will be stripped and they will still retain funding, so nothing to worry about.

I think some bubble dwellers got caught with their pants down on the abortion issue. After reading their comments I'm forced to believe that they have been told that tax money goes towards abortions. Instead of questioning why they received bogus information, they instead choose to protect those who fed them bullshit.

Stockholm Syndrome? If they had any balls they would ask their masters why they were fed BS, but like good little battered Republicans they most likely ask themselves what they did wrong. Then they blame themselves.

I think some bubble dwellers got caught with their pants down on the abortion issue. After reading their comments I'm forced to believe that they have been told that tax money goes towards abortions. Instead of questioning why they received bogus information, they instead choose to protect those who fed them bullshit.

Actually, it's the other way around and I totally understand. Even my sister that's a quasi-feminist and voted for Obama twice and is pro-choice knows this is a complete ruse and understands why the liberals are panicking over this issue and with good reason. We are talking about 125 billion in tax payer money being stripped if the GOP plan goes through, it would be a devastating blow to the abortion supporters.

Stockholm Syndrome? If they had any balls they would ask their masters why they were fed BS,

Maybe because the indoctrination attempt the Dems and the MSM are trying to do is just not working.

but like good little battered Republicans they most likely ask themselves what they did wrong. Then they blame themselves.

Not this time, definetly not this time or this issue, especially with all the evidence and video that's out for everyone to see.

It's illegal for government funding to be used for abortions.

Oh, brother, you are preaching to the choir! I know that for a fact, but that doesn't mean it's not done.

You realize that their books are public, right? So since you are denying the facts, let's see something, anything, to show that your premise that they are using public funds for abortions is true.

You realize that their books are public, right? So since you are denying the facts,

I'm not denying anything, that's you, the foreigner and me, the US resident that knows this. Anyway, you can say what you want, it's already etched in stone and the GOP congress will strip out this provision and you will see once again, like with the voter ID liberals screaming that that provision must remain, if so, why, if PP wouldn't get ANY funding for abortion from the tax payer, then no problem getting rid of it.

let's see something, anything, to show that your premise that they are using public funds for abortions is true.

I did and like everything liberals do every single time, you guys want to dismiss the facts. Again, as a Californian, I know the games liberals play. We will see next year how the liberals will react once the funding expires and it gets to the House, we will see, if the Dems are fine with it and don't say a word an don't fight this provision because as you want to believe it's not tax payer funded, I'll give you a full on apology.

But I have this gnawing feeling, that probably won't happen.

that's you, the foreigner and me, the US resident that knows this

That has nothing to do with it, as neither of us are insiders in the government, nor in Planned Parenthood. So we both have access to the exact same information.

it's already etched in stone and the GOP congress will strip out this provision

Strip out what provision?

if PP wouldn't get ANY funding for abortion from the tax payer, then no problem getting rid of it.

Of course not - but they already aren't getting any funding for abortion from the tax payers, so your posts are coming across as uninformed, and not in touch with reality. You are talking about stripping provisions that don't exist, and denying facts that do.

let's see something, anything, to show that your premise that they are using public funds for abortions is true.

I did

No you didn't. You basically said 'they ARE getting funding for abortions, because I said so'. Sorry, but that's not a fact, it's an opinion made in spite of the facts.

Not that I'd expect anything more from the bubble. Facts are the enemy of the bubble.

Queue "I know you are but what am I" response.

That has nothing to do with it, as neither of us are insiders in the government, nor in Planned Parenthood. So we both have access to the exact same information.

No, we don't. I do and especially my sister does because of the line of work she's in and you honestly think, I would take your word over someone that IS on the inside and what I do. Sorry, like I said, you can believe that she'll game, not buying it.

Strip out what provision?

The part that funds abortion.

Of course not - but they already aren't getting any funding for abortion from the tax payers,

Of course they are.

so your posts are coming across as uninformed, and not in touch with reality. You are talking about stripping provisions that don't exist, and denying facts that do.

If you think so, you are free to do so.

No you didn't. You basically said 'they ARE getting funding for abortions, because I said so'. Sorry, but that's not a fact, it's an opinion made in spite of the facts.

Hey, if you think so.

Not that I'd expect anything more from the bubble. Facts are the enemy of the bubble.

I live in Californian, I live in the biggest bubble in the union, that's why California is becoming a third world State because liberals believe in a world of reefers and unicorns and refuse to listen to ANY point of view except the liberal. At least we still have prestine Orange County safe from liberal madness that chokes the rest of the state.

I do and especially my sister does because of the line of work she's in and you honestly think, I would take your word over someone that IS on the inside and what I do. Sorry, like I said, you can believe that she'll game, not buying it.

What?

Well Bass, I accept that you are willing to deny fact to believe some weird theory you have that has no basis in reality. So I'll just have to be satisfied with the having put out the facts so that people reading this who do believe in reality will know that Planned Parenthood does not use public funding for abortions.

I accept that you are willing to deny fact to believe some weird theory you have that has no basis in reality.

Progressive liberal unicorn reality? Yes, as a matter of fact, that paisley universe, I vehemently refuse to accept.

So I'll just have to be satisfied with the having put out the facts so that people reading this who do believe in reality will know that Planned Parenthood does not use public funding for abortions

Of course, they do, even in my über-liberal home state of California, you can't get more liberal...well, maybe Vermont and the people know this. Or are you saying you know more than everyone in that one state? ROFL That's why I like you, Strange, you are too, too funny. My sides are aching!!!

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