Joke of the day is reserved for people who believe in the man-made global warming hoax. The CO2 that people exhail constantly is a pollutant? Biggest joke of all.
Total crock scam meant only to increase government control and raise taxes. Maybe someday they'll actually come up with some credible evidence...
sushisake. I own a few vehicles, plus, backhoe, dump truck, motorcycle, and.. what is the point? With the rise we have given China, I do not use any of them like I use to or would like, because of the price of fuel. It is not that I do not like Chinese, but it is that I definitely do not like supporting the government of China become more and more powerful and a symbol of control and force. Now if China was our friend and a country of the people I would not mind as much and also there would be more mutual understanding and I feel less competivness based on the power issue that China’s communists have always had as their goal at any cost, but again , just my opinion..
One point I will make is that now we have reached , as experts say a critical point with the destroying of the natural environment and now we have communist controlled China taking over the lead in pollution and many here want the US to take the responsibility of what is happening now when it is not just the US and other western countries. It is the lack of the industry regulations in China and where all of these corporations are going so not to have to abide by any regulations on emissions. You may talk about past years and pollution , but as we all know there is EPA and other environmental groups that hold a lot of clout in these matters and helps to establish pollution controls and emissions of our home based industries and at a very high cost.
Yes I agree with the idea Bush is kissing the butt of large corporations, especially those that have moved overseas eluding the expense of pollution controlling standards we have here as we speak. But we are supporting these large corporations that have moved overseas and supporting the continual flow of raw emissions as we buy the goods from countries such as China where the main pollution is now coming from. Yes Bush is kissing butt but not just of those left here in the US producing goods where there are emission controls in place but he has very openly supporting corporations that are putting raw pollution by the billions of tons into the air that are in China where the government has no one to be accountable to or groups to deal with and will not take into consideration as industries here and government here must contend with..
I do not believe the US should take any further action or add any more costs to what businesses are left here, but should stop importing items from businesses that are in countries that have not any regulations or organizations with any clout to stop the massive raw pollutants that these so called developing countries are emitting.
If we support China and the likes of, we are supporting total destruction of the environment.
Now it is time to pressure the main polluter of the world and that is CHINA>>
SushiSake, what do you call the mandatory additive of high-cost, polluting ethanol into gasoline which has raised the price of food world-wide, driven up gasoline prices, etc. which spurrs more taxes into government coffers? Yet another example of how liberals don't understand how the economy really works.
The globe warms and cools cyclically, and the whole man-made global warming scam is a total hoax.
America should apologizing to the whole world for world pollutions and global warming. It was her industries polluted the world for more than 100 years and they are keep refusing to take the burden to cleanup this globe! Bushie was justa typical american who took free ride of wealths but lazy a& relutant to do her responsibilities. America has dome mega more harm to this world instead of constructive meanings. Chinese leaders Hu Jintao was right, he strongly refusing to share any responsibilities over Co2 emissions in G8 meetings over Sapporo was a message to all the G7 nations: Dont be ridiculous!
To be honest Arnie is one of many righties who have been changing (or trying to change) the RNC stance on global warming. I was impressed that he was/is more concerned about his children`s future rather than corporate
profits.
Bravo Zulu to him
Now the US is really a much cleaner nation that let us say....China or India......But the US has much more to do, and yes the last 3 Presidents have been trying to deregulate everything to help businesses to compete against the likes of China and India.
BTW for those that dont know the last three US Presidents were Bush 1 (R), Clinton 1 (thank god) (D), and Bush 2 (R).......
The problem here is they have caused a lot of harm by allowing their corporate friends get away with murder and pillage the US.
Most of us concentrate on raisin' our families, payin' our bills and
cursin' the French. Join us.
That statement is dead on.....Now will the French here please lower their arms, the war ended!!!!LOL
How far does history go back for you 100yrs, 200yrs or even longer to the millenia that your ancestors come from.
Lets face it the USA(as a country) is still a fletchling state in human history. This is not slight.
But a fact, the USA still has not been around for the time that other empires have been around (may they be british, mongolian, greek phonecian, whatever).
I know americans don't like to hear it but european, african, etc history is also theirs, if you think you can leave the shores and thus the history/repsonsibilities you are way mistaken.
The USA being only a couple hundred years old makes it's acomplishments all the more impressive. Many Americans are very proud of their ancestry and the countries they come from, appreciate the history that led to where we are now and continue to maintain ties with their origins. I'm greatful for all the countries of the world that contributed to making America what it is, and I look forward to all the cool things yet to come.
As for me, my great-great-great grandfather was king William of England, which ties me into most of the major European countries and I have no problem with that whatsoever.
However, while I'm interested in learning the history I don't feel I have any responsibilities. If you are inferring that the people of today should somehow be responsible or pay for the acts of people hundreds of years ago, I say that's bollocks.
The USA may not have been formed and as old as many, but what was formed and shaped has made it the greatest nation in the world. Like it or not. All based on our principles. Now there is something no one else has yet to monopolize on and seems no one else wishes to , maybe because of jealousy knowing that if they tried and failed they would be seen as fools.
The US has played their part in pollution control as we see in every plant that is still hanging on in this country with all the scrubbers that they were forced to build into their systems. To say we have lacked in any measures on pollution seems to be a mis guided outlook as for as I see it , we have only been the promoter of a cleaner environment that has spread the word around the world, except for a few such as should be the priority CHINA!!!!!!!! Let us hope our athletes come back still healthy from Beijing!!!!!
(-And Tee, our form of government is older than Canada's, France, Italy, Germany, China, Russia and on and on. Our good Allies, the Brits, have got us beat on this one, though. Our legal system is also founded on theirs.)
And you forget the roman one which formed the basis for most western law systems, which predate the US ones.
But keep thinking the US invented it all and there was only chaos prior to the USA.
Heck even the founders of the US constitution based it on british ones they grew up with(which in term stem from roman ones, etc).
Your beliefs are only against anything that has been proven and known in the west for millenia.
I admire your jingoism but you are way wrong. And a wee bit of study shows it.
So now President Bush is to blame for Global Warming? We can no longer blame Red China, India, and Indonesia, three countries in Asia who produce more greenhouse gases than the USA? We can't blame the sun, whose 2005 activity was so severe that communications satellites were heavily affected, insomuch that there were communications blackouts on a regular basis? We can no longer blame the world's active volcanoesm, which spew out more CO2 and Methane than man could do in 1,000,000 years? Now its President Bush's fault? What, seriously, could he have done to stop this alleged crock of "man made" global warming???
USARonin I was thinking about India as I was posting, but left it out because atleast it is a democracy and even in India the people have a voice when it comes to decisions and expression. So I give them some room as for reform forced by society which is not the case in China.
What ever the bas is for our system, we have only tweeked it to make it as the world leader in a system seen as a model for other developing societies to follow.
As a people based government, the voices are heard and followed when it comes to issues that have public support such as pollution control. Also the right to speak out freely and to assemble which brings up the right to protest the issues that are important. This is not the case with China and all seems to look the other way on issues when it comes to China. Just more and more disadvantages to domestic production., and we are supoose to compete?? Time for all to compete on an equal footing!
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Gyudon at 06:44 AM JST - 15th July
Joke of the day is reserved for people who believe in the man-made global warming hoax. The CO2 that people exhail constantly is a pollutant? Biggest joke of all.
Total crock scam meant only to increase government control and raise taxes. Maybe someday they'll actually come up with some credible evidence...
USARonin at 06:45 AM JST - 15th July
Maybe someday they never will.
USAR
SushiSake3 at 09:26 AM JST - 15th July
"Total crock scam meant only to increase government control and raise taxes. Maybe someday they'll actually come up with some credible evidence..."
Maybe someday someone will cme up with some evidence to back up your claim of 'government control.'
Gotta love what some people come up with when the debate is already long over.
TonyUS at 01:04 PM JST - 15th July
sushisake. I own a few vehicles, plus, backhoe, dump truck, motorcycle, and.. what is the point? With the rise we have given China, I do not use any of them like I use to or would like, because of the price of fuel. It is not that I do not like Chinese, but it is that I definitely do not like supporting the government of China become more and more powerful and a symbol of control and force. Now if China was our friend and a country of the people I would not mind as much and also there would be more mutual understanding and I feel less competivness based on the power issue that China’s communists have always had as their goal at any cost, but again , just my opinion..
One point I will make is that now we have reached , as experts say a critical point with the destroying of the natural environment and now we have communist controlled China taking over the lead in pollution and many here want the US to take the responsibility of what is happening now when it is not just the US and other western countries. It is the lack of the industry regulations in China and where all of these corporations are going so not to have to abide by any regulations on emissions. You may talk about past years and pollution , but as we all know there is EPA and other environmental groups that hold a lot of clout in these matters and helps to establish pollution controls and emissions of our home based industries and at a very high cost.
Yes I agree with the idea Bush is kissing the butt of large corporations, especially those that have moved overseas eluding the expense of pollution controlling standards we have here as we speak. But we are supporting these large corporations that have moved overseas and supporting the continual flow of raw emissions as we buy the goods from countries such as China where the main pollution is now coming from. Yes Bush is kissing butt but not just of those left here in the US producing goods where there are emission controls in place but he has very openly supporting corporations that are putting raw pollution by the billions of tons into the air that are in China where the government has no one to be accountable to or groups to deal with and will not take into consideration as industries here and government here must contend with..
I do not believe the US should take any further action or add any more costs to what businesses are left here, but should stop importing items from businesses that are in countries that have not any regulations or organizations with any clout to stop the massive raw pollutants that these so called developing countries are emitting.
If we support China and the likes of, we are supporting total destruction of the environment. Now it is time to pressure the main polluter of the world and that is CHINA>>
Gyudon at 08:13 PM JST - 15th July
SushiSake, what do you call the mandatory additive of high-cost, polluting ethanol into gasoline which has raised the price of food world-wide, driven up gasoline prices, etc. which spurrs more taxes into government coffers? Yet another example of how liberals don't understand how the economy really works.
The globe warms and cools cyclically, and the whole man-made global warming scam is a total hoax.
reddragonguy at 10:13 AM JST - 16th July
America should apologizing to the whole world for world pollutions and global warming. It was her industries polluted the world for more than 100 years and they are keep refusing to take the burden to cleanup this globe! Bushie was justa typical american who took free ride of wealths but lazy a& relutant to do her responsibilities. America has dome mega more harm to this world instead of constructive meanings. Chinese leaders Hu Jintao was right, he strongly refusing to share any responsibilities over Co2 emissions in G8 meetings over Sapporo was a message to all the G7 nations: Dont be ridiculous!
JoeBigs at 12:35 PM JST - 16th July
To be honest Arnie is one of many righties who have been changing (or trying to change) the RNC stance on global warming. I was impressed that he was/is more concerned about his children`s future rather than corporate profits.
Bravo Zulu to him
Now the US is really a much cleaner nation that let us say....China or India......But the US has much more to do, and yes the last 3 Presidents have been trying to deregulate everything to help businesses to compete against the likes of China and India.
BTW for those that dont know the last three US Presidents were Bush 1 (R), Clinton 1 (thank god) (D), and Bush 2 (R).......
The problem here is they have caused a lot of harm by allowing their corporate friends get away with murder and pillage the US.
That statement is dead on.....Now will the French here please lower their arms, the war ended!!!!LOL
Gyudon at 07:32 PM JST - 16th July
America shouldn't appologize for anything. No nation in the history of the world has ever done more to improve the wellbeing of the planet.
Man-made global warming is a hoax.
Zen_Builder at 07:54 PM JST - 16th July
Gyudon.
How far does history go back for you 100yrs, 200yrs or even longer to the millenia that your ancestors come from.
Lets face it the USA(as a country) is still a fletchling state in human history. This is not slight.
But a fact, the USA still has not been around for the time that other empires have been around (may they be british, mongolian, greek phonecian, whatever).
I know americans don't like to hear it but european, african, etc history is also theirs, if you think you can leave the shores and thus the history/repsonsibilities you are way mistaken.
Just my view。
Gyudon at 08:16 PM JST - 17th July
The USA being only a couple hundred years old makes it's acomplishments all the more impressive. Many Americans are very proud of their ancestry and the countries they come from, appreciate the history that led to where we are now and continue to maintain ties with their origins. I'm greatful for all the countries of the world that contributed to making America what it is, and I look forward to all the cool things yet to come.
As for me, my great-great-great grandfather was king William of England, which ties me into most of the major European countries and I have no problem with that whatsoever.
However, while I'm interested in learning the history I don't feel I have any responsibilities. If you are inferring that the people of today should somehow be responsible or pay for the acts of people hundreds of years ago, I say that's bollocks.
TonyUS at 02:41 PM JST - 18th July
The USA may not have been formed and as old as many, but what was formed and shaped has made it the greatest nation in the world. Like it or not. All based on our principles. Now there is something no one else has yet to monopolize on and seems no one else wishes to , maybe because of jealousy knowing that if they tried and failed they would be seen as fools. The US has played their part in pollution control as we see in every plant that is still hanging on in this country with all the scrubbers that they were forced to build into their systems. To say we have lacked in any measures on pollution seems to be a mis guided outlook as for as I see it , we have only been the promoter of a cleaner environment that has spread the word around the world, except for a few such as should be the priority CHINA!!!!!!!! Let us hope our athletes come back still healthy from Beijing!!!!!
USARonin at 02:57 PM JST - 18th July
Hi, Tony!
Don't forget India.
(-And Tee, our form of government is older than Canada's, France, Italy, Germany, China, Russia and on and on. Our good Allies, the Brits, have got us beat on this one, though. Our legal system is also founded on theirs.)
USAR
Zen_Builder at 03:10 PM JST - 18th July
USAR.
And you forget the roman one which formed the basis for most western law systems, which predate the US ones.
But keep thinking the US invented it all and there was only chaos prior to the USA. Heck even the founders of the US constitution based it on british ones they grew up with(which in term stem from roman ones, etc).
Your beliefs are only against anything that has been proven and known in the west for millenia.
I admire your jingoism but you are way wrong. And a wee bit of study shows it.
Blue_Tiger at 03:08 PM JST - 19th July
So now President Bush is to blame for Global Warming? We can no longer blame Red China, India, and Indonesia, three countries in Asia who produce more greenhouse gases than the USA? We can't blame the sun, whose 2005 activity was so severe that communications satellites were heavily affected, insomuch that there were communications blackouts on a regular basis? We can no longer blame the world's active volcanoesm, which spew out more CO2 and Methane than man could do in 1,000,000 years? Now its President Bush's fault? What, seriously, could he have done to stop this alleged crock of "man made" global warming???
TonyUS at 02:40 PM JST - 22nd July
USARonin I was thinking about India as I was posting, but left it out because atleast it is a democracy and even in India the people have a voice when it comes to decisions and expression. So I give them some room as for reform forced by society which is not the case in China.
What ever the bas is for our system, we have only tweeked it to make it as the world leader in a system seen as a model for other developing societies to follow.
As a people based government, the voices are heard and followed when it comes to issues that have public support such as pollution control. Also the right to speak out freely and to assemble which brings up the right to protest the issues that are important. This is not the case with China and all seems to look the other way on issues when it comes to China. Just more and more disadvantages to domestic production., and we are supoose to compete?? Time for all to compete on an equal footing!
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