Monday May 28, 2012

Kennedy recovering in hospital after seizure

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    RomeoRamenII

    Kennedy, the second-longest serving member of the Senate

    Wrong. He's the third-longest serving senator behind Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd.

    RR

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    SezWho2

    Why the rush to find fault? Kennedy is the second longest serving member. Thurmond is no longer serving. It's good to interpret ambiguity in the way that makes the most sense.

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    RomeoRamenII

    Serving member, not sitting member :

    Senator: Dates of Service: Length of Service

    1.) Robert C. Byrd (D-WV) January 3, 1959 to present 49 years

    2.) Strom Thurmond (R-SC) December 24, 1954 to April 4, 1956

    and November 7, 1956 to January 3, 2003 47 years, 5.2 months

    3.) Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA) November 7, 1962 to present 45 years, 2 months

    RR

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    SezWho2

    RomeoRamenII,

    "Longest serving" is ill-defined. When used in reference to the current Senate, Kennedy is the second-longest serving member. In this context "serving" means "sitting". When used in reference to the Senate throughout history, he's the third. In that context "serving" means "having sat".

    America obsessed here would be you--in addition to showing yourself to be rather determined to find a fault to no point.

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    Sarge

    Harry Reid: "if there was ever a fighter, anyone who ever stood for what we, as Americans, we as Democrats stand for, it's Ted Kennedy."

    Make that just "we as Democrats." To me, Ted Kennedy will always be "the swimmer."

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    RomeoRamenII

    Sarge:

    I am finding it difficult to show compassion toward someone who allowed a young woman to drown and went on to promote the death of untold millions.

    RR

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    RomeoRamenII

    Sez:

    Point out in this article where your term "current Senate" is used. The story as written is in error. Of course, since JT is not a bonafide news site no one expects them to correct that oversight.

    RR

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    RomeoRamenII

    "Sen. Edward M Kennedy remained hospitalized Sunday as doctors worked to determine what caused one of the nation’s best-known senators to suffer a seizure in his Cape Cod home."

    Under hillary's universal health care plan Ted would have been sitting at home another 6 - 9 months waiting to see a doctor.

    RR

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    capone

    what caused it ? how about he's 76, drinks heavily and weighs over 300 pounds

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    Sarge

    Does Ted really weigh over 300 pounds?

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    SezWho2

    RomeoRamenII,

    Point out to me two members of the Senate who have longer service than Kennedy. Strom Thurmond is not a member of the Senate.

    Even had you been right, what would have been the point of your correction and the tone it was cast in? Your problem with Chappaquiddick was more to the point, I think.

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    super delegate

    "...he's 76, drinks heavily and weighs over 300 pounds"

    He's making McCain look very presidential.

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    Taka313

    Sez, Don't even bother. Let them have their hate. For some, it is all they have.

    Taka

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    Sarge

    Sez, Taka - Tell us, what's so great about Ted Kennedy?

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    Nessie

    Sarge, He took a principled stand against retroactive telecom immunity, if I recall correctly.

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    SezWho2

    Sarge,

    I don't recall either Taka313 or myself claiming here that there was anything so great about Ted Kennedy. What I have been doing here is correcting the erroneous claim that the article uses the wrong information about Kennedy's service among members of the Senate. I'd really rather that Taka313 speak for himself, but it appears to me that he is advising me that I am wasting my time talking to folks who can't stay on point.

    That being said, in addition to Nessie's comment, I would say that the voters of Massachusetts have seen fit to return him to office time and again. No matter how cynically you may choose to look at that fact, he must be doing something that the voters like. Furthermore, as far as I am concerned, he is something of a champion for the rights and welfare of ordinary citizens and he rather courageously speaks against the war in Iraq. This does not make him "great", but it does make him a favorite of the many people who generally agree with him.

    To that I might add that in Kennedy we have a member of Congress who has served the public for 45 years. When he suffers a seizure--or whatever he actually did suffer--the folks who have knives out against "The Left" have not one word of sympathy or condolence. While such expressions are not necessary, it strikes me as rather shabby to use the occasion of his illness to diminish his record, vent one's spleen against him or to continually hearken back to incidents that Massachusetts voters have obviously already forgiven him for.

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    skipthesong

    don't forget folks, this man was a smoker too. Unless he has since I last heard given that up, along with his weight, that Irishman's drinking, and all that hollering he has clearly brought this on himself.

    Not to sound too un-sympathetic, but it is hard for me to have pity for a politician, but at least if he goes, he want be going the usual Kennedy way, which has always been somewhat violently.

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    Sarge

    Nessie - Oh, for cryin' out loud... if that's the greatest thing he's done, he should retire.

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