"Longest serving" is ill-defined. When used in reference to the current Senate, Kennedy is the second-longest serving member. In this context "serving" means "sitting". When used in reference to the Senate throughout history, he's the third. In that context "serving" means "having sat".
America obsessed here would be you--in addition to showing yourself to be rather determined to find a fault to no point.
Point out in this article where your term "current Senate" is used. The story as written is in error. Of course, since JT is not a bonafide news site no one expects them to correct that oversight.
"Sen. Edward M Kennedy remained hospitalized Sunday as doctors worked to determine what caused one of the nation’s best-known senators to suffer a seizure in his Cape Cod home."
Under hillary's universal health care plan Ted would have been sitting at home another 6 - 9 months waiting to see a doctor.
Point out to me two members of the Senate who have longer service than Kennedy. Strom Thurmond is not a member of the Senate.
Even had you been right, what would have been the point of your correction and the tone it was cast in? Your problem with Chappaquiddick was more to the point, I think.
I don't recall either Taka313 or myself claiming here that there was anything so great about Ted Kennedy. What I have been doing here is correcting the erroneous claim that the article uses the wrong information about Kennedy's service among members of the Senate. I'd really rather that Taka313 speak for himself, but it appears to me that he is advising me that I am wasting my time talking to folks who can't stay on point.
That being said, in addition to Nessie's comment, I would say that the voters of Massachusetts have seen fit to return him to office time and again. No matter how cynically you may choose to look at that fact, he must be doing something that the voters like. Furthermore, as far as I am concerned, he is something of a champion for the rights and welfare of ordinary citizens and he rather courageously speaks against the war in Iraq. This does not make him "great", but it does make him a favorite of the many people who generally agree with him.
To that I might add that in Kennedy we have a member of Congress who has served the public for 45 years. When he suffers a seizure--or whatever he actually did suffer--the folks who have knives out against "The Left" have not one word of sympathy or condolence. While such expressions are not necessary, it strikes me as rather shabby to use the occasion of his illness to diminish his record, vent one's spleen against him or to continually hearken back to incidents that Massachusetts voters have obviously already forgiven him for.
don't forget folks, this man was a smoker too. Unless he has since I last heard given that up, along with his weight, that Irishman's drinking, and all that hollering he has clearly brought this on himself.
Not to sound too un-sympathetic, but it is hard for me to have pity for a politician, but at least if he goes, he want be going the usual Kennedy way, which has always been somewhat violently.
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SezWho2 at 08:25 PM JST - 18th May
RomeoRamenII,
"Longest serving" is ill-defined. When used in reference to the current Senate, Kennedy is the second-longest serving member. In this context "serving" means "sitting". When used in reference to the Senate throughout history, he's the third. In that context "serving" means "having sat".
America obsessed here would be you--in addition to showing yourself to be rather determined to find a fault to no point.
Sarge at 08:46 PM JST - 18th May
Harry Reid: "if there was ever a fighter, anyone who ever stood for what we, as Americans, we as Democrats stand for, it's Ted Kennedy."
Make that just "we as Democrats." To me, Ted Kennedy will always be "the swimmer."
RomeoRamenII at 08:55 PM JST - 18th May
Sarge:
I am finding it difficult to show compassion toward someone who allowed a young woman to drown and went on to promote the death of untold millions.
RR
RomeoRamenII at 09:08 PM JST - 18th May
Sez:
Point out in this article where your term "current Senate" is used. The story as written is in error. Of course, since JT is not a bonafide news site no one expects them to correct that oversight.
RR
RomeoRamenII at 09:49 PM JST - 18th May
"Sen. Edward M Kennedy remained hospitalized Sunday as doctors worked to determine what caused one of the nation’s best-known senators to suffer a seizure in his Cape Cod home."
Under hillary's universal health care plan Ted would have been sitting at home another 6 - 9 months waiting to see a doctor.
RR
capone at 09:51 PM JST - 18th May
what caused it ? how about he's 76, drinks heavily and weighs over 300 pounds
Sarge at 09:55 PM JST - 18th May
Does Ted really weigh over 300 pounds?
SezWho2 at 11:06 PM JST - 18th May
RomeoRamenII,
Point out to me two members of the Senate who have longer service than Kennedy. Strom Thurmond is not a member of the Senate.
Even had you been right, what would have been the point of your correction and the tone it was cast in? Your problem with Chappaquiddick was more to the point, I think.
super delegate at 12:13 AM JST - 19th May
"...he's 76, drinks heavily and weighs over 300 pounds"
He's making McCain look very presidential.
Taka313 at 06:39 AM JST - 19th May
Sez, Don't even bother. Let them have their hate. For some, it is all they have.
Taka
Sarge at 09:00 AM JST - 19th May
Sez, Taka - Tell us, what's so great about Ted Kennedy?
Nessie at 10:27 AM JST - 19th May
Sarge, He took a principled stand against retroactive telecom immunity, if I recall correctly.
SezWho2 at 11:21 AM JST - 19th May
Sarge,
I don't recall either Taka313 or myself claiming here that there was anything so great about Ted Kennedy. What I have been doing here is correcting the erroneous claim that the article uses the wrong information about Kennedy's service among members of the Senate. I'd really rather that Taka313 speak for himself, but it appears to me that he is advising me that I am wasting my time talking to folks who can't stay on point.
That being said, in addition to Nessie's comment, I would say that the voters of Massachusetts have seen fit to return him to office time and again. No matter how cynically you may choose to look at that fact, he must be doing something that the voters like. Furthermore, as far as I am concerned, he is something of a champion for the rights and welfare of ordinary citizens and he rather courageously speaks against the war in Iraq. This does not make him "great", but it does make him a favorite of the many people who generally agree with him.
To that I might add that in Kennedy we have a member of Congress who has served the public for 45 years. When he suffers a seizure--or whatever he actually did suffer--the folks who have knives out against "The Left" have not one word of sympathy or condolence. While such expressions are not necessary, it strikes me as rather shabby to use the occasion of his illness to diminish his record, vent one's spleen against him or to continually hearken back to incidents that Massachusetts voters have obviously already forgiven him for.
skipthesong at 02:39 PM JST - 19th May
don't forget folks, this man was a smoker too. Unless he has since I last heard given that up, along with his weight, that Irishman's drinking, and all that hollering he has clearly brought this on himself.
Not to sound too un-sympathetic, but it is hard for me to have pity for a politician, but at least if he goes, he want be going the usual Kennedy way, which has always been somewhat violently.
Sarge at 03:20 PM JST - 19th May
Nessie - Oh, for cryin' out loud... if that's the greatest thing he's done, he should retire.
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