Monday May 28, 2012

Senate confirms Sotomayor for U.S. Supreme Court

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    JoeBigs

    Now the Supreme court swings to the left. Don't you just love the American system. Best part these Judges are not elected there fore can not be bought off by corporate lobbyists.

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    smithinjapan

    "In the final tally, just nine Republicans joined majority Democrats and the Senate’s two independents to support Sotomayor’s confirmation."

    Well, I hope the ideology they brought to the vote, and that failed them so badly in the last election, follows them to the NEXT election for an even greater slaughter. The funniest part is how they caved to the NRA!

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    Sarge

    I hope she makes wise female Latina decisions.

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    USNinJapan2

    JoeBigs

    Now the Supreme court swings to the left.

    Precisely the problem Joe. The SC shouldn't be left or right leaning but an independent judicial authority which interprets the US Constitution logically uninfluenced by political pressure or public opinion.

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    pawatan

    The SC shouldn't be left or right leaning but an independent judicial authority which interprets the US Constitution logically uninfluenced by political pressure or public opinion.

    You idealist you.

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    Alphaape

    You idealist you.

    So pawatan tell me this, if USNinJapan2 is an idealist for beliving that the judical branch should be independent, then what do you want it to be. Would you be happy if it was partisan to the left or to the right? If you did not get your way, would you be happy or find that the courts were unfair?

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    GJDailleult

    So 31 wise white guys voted against her. I wonder how many Hispanics just became permanent, lifelong Democratic party voters because of those 31 votes.

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    JoeBigs

    GJDailleult at 12:27 PM JST - 7th August So 31 wise white guys voted against her. I wonder how many Hispanics just became permanent, lifelong Democratic party voters because of those 31 votes.

    Not I, I am still a strong Independent and do not see myself changing because of this vote.

    The 31 Republican's that voted in the nay column did it because they felt she was too liberal and not of a far right winger for them.

    USNinJapan2 at 11:26 AM JST - 7th August JoeBigs Now the Supreme court swings to the left. Precisely the problem Joe. The SC shouldn't be left or right leaning but an independent judicial authority which interprets the US Constitution logically uninfluenced by political pressure or public opinion.

    The Supreme court has always been leaning to the right or the left. Look at it's history and you will notice that this was a fact. I hope that we can get a few more left leaning Judges in there for a while to offset the rights influence.

    You know the anti Woe V Wade group.....

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    adaydream

    I'm glad she was confirmed. < :-)

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    smithinjapan

    alphaape: "So pawatan tell me this, if USNinJapan2 is an idealist for beliving that the judical branch should be independent, then what do you want it to be."

    Read your own sentence... "if USNinJapan2 is an idealist for believing the judicial branch SHOULD be independent..."

    I don't know too many people who think it SHOULDN'T, but I also don't know anyone who believes it actually is.

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    smithinjapan

    alphaape: hence, the 'ideal'.

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    skipthesong

    So 31 wise white guys voted against her. I wonder how many Hispanics just became permanent, lifelong Democratic party voters because of those 31 votes." I think Joe Biggs spoke well enough for me. I certainly won't become a hard core dem or hard core anti-repub.

    I think people like really underestimate us. Do you really think the Dems won us all over because of Sotomayor? And we are going to throw support to those repubs who voted for her 100%? Only a white guy could think of something so stupid.

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    GJDailleult

    skipthesong, just saying there is a risk/reward calculation in politics, and if you vote against a qualified Hispanic candidate you run the risk of ticking off some Hispanic voters to the point where they won't vote for you in the future. Might happen, might not, but the risk is there. And the reward is what, keeping your supporters happy by putting on a show for them? Like they are going to go anywhere. But what do you expect, Republicans are completely tone deaf now that Bush and Rove are gone, at least they knew how to get where they wanted to go.

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    Alphaape

    Read your own sentence... "if USNinJapan2 is an idealist for believing the judicial branch SHOULD be independent..."

    smithinjapan: I realize that it is an idealist notion to have an impartial Supreme Court, but you did not look at the rest of my post. Would others be happy if the court had swung all the way to the left or all the way to the right? That is my point. I lean right on some issues. But I think that a court full or "right leaning" judges is probably not a good idea nor would it be good if they were all left.

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    SushiSake3

    Looks like the GOP - the Party Of 'No' - just couldn't stop this measure passing either.

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    smithinjapan

    Alphaape: I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying I think you read too much into patawan's comment.

    skipthesong: "I think people like really underestimate us. Do you really think the Dems won us all over because of Sotomayor? And we are going to throw support to those repubs who voted for her 100%? Only a white guy could think of something so stupid."

    I don't think you can really try to make an objective post with the lead-in line you wrote, and certainly not with the note you ended on. You can get your point across just fine without resorting the mentality you purport to be against in your post.

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    smithinjapan

    Sorry, "pawatan's" comment. My bad.

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    skipthesong

    GJ: Look, all I am saying is that I am not easily sold just because someone like me gets a posisition, regardless how high. I felt the same way with Alberto under Bush. The Dems didn't win any points with by this and the repubs didn't lose any points with me either. I don't know what to consider myself, I'm left, right, center, up and down. conserv on some matters, lib on others and I think, at least I like to believe, many if not the majority, are more or less like me.

    I will say one thing that I did gain a bit of respect for the repubs and not bending for political points. I really hate when politicians do that. now, would those same repub who didn't vote for her swing for votes? I am sure they would and they in turn lose my respect.

    I just hope the bench can be balanced. I don't like it going all the way in either direction.

    There is a young guy here, Puerto Rican. He comes up to me today and says "hey, they put one of us up there". Ok, I'm glad here's happy, but I don't consider anyone to be one of my own just because they resemble me in looks.

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    Sarge

    "I wonder how many Hispanics just became lifelong, Democratic party voters because of those 31 ( Republican ) votes ( against her )"

    They were already Democratic Party voters. No loss there.

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    JoeBigs

    Sarge at 09:28 PM JST - 7th August "I wonder how many Hispanics just became lifelong, Democratic party voters because of those 31 ( Republican ) votes ( against her )" They were already Democratic Party voters. No loss there.

    Very good point Sarge, my parents are die hard Republicans. The placement of a Hispanic to the courts will not sway them to become Democrats.

    As I stated before, as for me, I will not join the Democratic party just because of this reason. Neither would I have joined the Republican party if she were a Conservative.

    How many African Americans joined the Republican party when Justice Thomas got the post? Not many at all.......

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    Alphaape

    How many African Americans joined the Republican party when Justice Thomas got the post? Not many at all.......

    JoeBigsgs, not many switched to the Republican party when Gen Powell was selected as Ambassador either. As a Black man, I try not to vote or follow someone just because they look like me. I actually think that it is sort of condecending when the left leaning press says that those Rep. who did not vote for her will loose the Hispanic vote. Just because we may all look alike to them, does not mean we all think alike.

    I have to look up the records of those who did not vote for her. I am sure that there are some things they stand for that I am not in agreement with, but I do have to give them credit for standing their ground.

    I am not too thrilled with her selection, not becuase of her race but to be honest I don't know much about where she stands other than soundbites from both sides. I honestly wish that during the confirmation hearings more would have been brought out about her rulings and her interpretations, not only from the Rep side but for those Dems who probably were against her too. I would have had much more respect for the system if that would have happened, but I guess as the earlier poster said, I am just living in a too idealistic dream.

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    Triumvere

    Congratulations to Justice Sotomayor. I'm not entirely sure that she'll make a good justice, though I do hope her opponents won't spend the next decade intentionally mis-pronouncing her name.

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    adaydream

    Sotomayor got what she deserved, even if the GOP squawks and gripes. It's just wonderful in one swoop action by the GOP the Democratic just got an influx of new voters. < :-)

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    Sarge

    How do you pronounce her name, anyway? Is it soto-may-yer, or soto-mah-your, or what?

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    adaydream

    Sarge if you'll check with one of the new democrats, they'll pronounce it correct for you. < :-)

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    Sarge

    That's OK, I know it's pronounced soto-mah-your.

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    Wolfpack

    About as many Hispanics will now become Democrats because of the votes against Sotomayor as had become Republicans because of the votes against Miguel Estrada. Those that believe in freedom and the rights of individuals and those with a collectivist / statist philosophy will not likely change their voting patterns based on the placement of a racially biased judge on the Supreme Court by a racially biased and increasingly polarizing President.

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    skipthesong

    damn smith, are you having a take a swipe at skip day again?

    sarge: I did not like your statement. You just blanketed us. Are you suggesting we can think individually? Its statements like yours that send chills up my spine. Let me ask you this, if I or JB were in your presence, would you be able to pick us out? You do know that we too come in many different shades.

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    hworta269

    how many white people in America get put in to these positions saying racist crap throughout their career?

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    lostrune2

    Eh, assuming Sotomayor stays liberal, it'll just be same-old same-old:

    "She replaces retiring Justice David Souter, a liberal named by a Republican president, and she is not expected to alter the court’s ideological split." -- AP

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