Senate deals Bush a defeat on Iraq war spending

Friday 23rd May, 06:37 AM JST

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jambon at 09:47 PM JST - 23rd May

I want them to get an education because they were duped into joining an idiotic war for all the wrong reasons,

How odd. Many state universities don't want recruiters anywhere on campus. Perhaps this is because military members get some real education in the real world. The professors, who have never had a real job, quake at this thought. Imagine the challenges to their Leftist pap.
Sarge at 10:44 PM JST - 23rd May

"Is this Bush defeat in the ( Senate ) symbolic?"

Hey, you gotta lose one ONCE in a while. Heh.
1proudamerican at 11:23 PM JST - 23rd May

alphaape--it was channey under 41's watch that cut the defense budget,and reduced the size of the military.41 and 43 have be trying to pass that buck for a while and thay both know it's bs and you would to if you paid attention.
Alphaape at 11:46 PM JST - 23rd May

1proudamerican, I have been in the military for 20 years. The drawdown that started under Bush 41, was due to the fact that the USSR fell and there was a "peace dividend" at hand. Then the 1st Iraq war, and there was a slight buildup. Aftwards, many of the older platforms were replaced with more expensive systems that had been proven in the Gulf War.

When Clinton came in, with his Sec Def Les Aspin, that is when the real drawdown began. I know many persons who took the VBI (Voluntary Buyout Incentive) and ran from the military as fast as they could. Well into Clinton's second term did this continue, and do you remember all the confusion of the base closures. I seem to remember Subic closed in '92 or '93. True, Bush 43 did try to make cuts, and contract many of the service out, but the whole process started back in earnest with Clinton.

As far as this GI Bill goes, they are only presenting one side of the story. Ok McCain did not vote for the bill, but they should at least explain why. As I pointed out, he wanted different provision as did the White House, and not because he has a "screw the vets" mentality.
1proudamerican at 12:17 AM JST - 24th May

alphaape-- thank you for your service. the fact is 41 started the draw down that 42 inharited because it made sence after the ussr fell,but ever sence then every rightwing apologest has tryed to pin it on 42,even after 43 tryed to lower the ranks thats all im trying to say. politics/truth are like oil/water. simple 43/us public
Madverts at 12:38 AM JST - 24th May

Uh, sarge,

"Hey, you gotta lose one ONCE in a while. Heh."

Once? GWB's entire history is one of Failure.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3298443.stm

Heh.
Madverts at 12:49 AM JST - 24th May

Or better:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushmiserablefailure.htm

Pictures really do speak a thousand words.
1proudamerican at 12:53 AM JST - 24th May

even if he loses one, he's shown he's willing to steal one or two (00)(04)
SuperLib at 06:13 AM JST - 24th May

Thanks for the comments from those in the military. I didn't know the GI Bill was used to any real extent. A friend of mine enlisted to help pay for the cost of medical school and he's a doctor now, but that's the only story that I've ever personally heard. My cousin was a pilot in the Navy and went on to fly for American Airlines, but that's a bit different.
rjd_jr at 07:03 AM JST - 24th May

skipthesong, Penn offers free education to vets? Might have to check that one out.
DanManjt at 07:48 AM JST - 24th May

Seems to me the best way around all this baby killer vs smarty-pants stupidity is to re-institute the draft.
DanManjt at 07:49 AM JST - 24th May

Smith,

So as an educated guy, please enlighten us as to the cause of war.
super delegate at 12:32 PM JST - 24th May

At least some of the Democrats we have are willing to admit they lied to the American public:

"We really in this last election, when I say we...the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn't say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, we could stop the war. Now anybody was a good student of Government would know that wasn't true. But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts...and people ate it up."

Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa), admitting Democrats lied to win back Congress in 2006

Video available - http://jeffemanuel.net/paul-kanjorski-pa-11-admits-democrats-lied-about-being-able-to-end-war-in-iraq
Madverts at 06:49 PM JST - 24th May

"At least some of the Democrats we have are willing to admit they lied to the American public"

No quite the same as "mushroom clouds over NYC".....neh?
Blue_Tiger at 10:50 AM JST - 28th May

Amazing that the Democrats crow about victory on one bill, then get smacked in the face on another (redeployment of troops), when it is defeated with similar authority. And I'd like to know which DEMS are willing to admit they lied to the American People. Nancy Pelosi? Don't think so! She promised the "cleanest" House in 12 years when she and her cronies were elected into power, and the corruption has only gotten worse. Harry Reid? Ditto for him and the Senate, promising gold to the people, but giving nothing more than fool's gold. And with regards to their pledge to "end the war?" Laughable!!! Every time a vote has come up to end funding for the war, they've totally backed off!!! Who, again, is willing to admit that they lied to the American People????????