Shooter kills 3 people, injures 2 in Swiss village

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    Mocheake

    Just goes go show you that no place is immune to senseless violence. The scale of the tragedy may be different but the results are the same. May the ones who were killed rest in peace and a swift recovery to the injured.

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    WilliB

    Now I am waiting for the chorus of "Switzerland needs stricter gun control laws".

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    missbatten

    Switzerland does actually have one of the highest rates of civilian gun ownership in the world...gun homicides may be much lower than the U.S., but they are by no means low.

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    smithinjapan

    missbatten: "Switzerland does actually have one of the highest rates of civilian gun ownership in the world...gun homicides may be much lower than the U.S., but they are by no means low."

    Hence it's a headline and not a daily page three.

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    cleo

    Switzerland does actually have one of the highest rates of civilian gun ownership in the world...gun homicides may be much lower than the U.S., but they are by no means low.

    Do you have any links for that? Nationmaster doesn't even mention Switzerland in its top 32 'Firearm homicide rate per 100,000 population' list' (US=#8 @3.6 per 100,000 pop: #32 is Singapore @0.0249), though Switzerland is third(@45.7) in the 'Guns per 100 residents' list (US=#1, @88.8).

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    Jay Que

    I do admire the Swiss attitude towards civilian possession of firearms.

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    Ranger_Miffy2

    Nice they did not kill him, so he will have to answer for his actions.

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    Elbuda Mexicano

    So according to Missbatten, Switzerland is just a bad a West Detroit?? I think many will disagree, and we go back to GUNS do kill people and people with GUNS can kill many more people than if they DID NOT have any GUNS.

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    OssanAmerica

    " In 2005, he was admitted in a psychiatric hospital, she said."

    The most significant aspect of this article.

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    Fadamor

    Do you have any links for that? Nationmaster doesn't even mention Switzerland in its top 32 'Firearm homicide rate per 100,000 population' list' (US=#8 @3.6 per 100,000 pop: #32 is Singapore @0.0249), though Switzerland is third(@45.7) in the 'Guns per 100 residents' list (US=#1, @88.8).

    Wiki has a page that compares countries for firearms-related deaths. Of the 75 countries listed, the U.S. is 10th with 10.2 firearms deaths per 100,000 people and Switzerland is 20th with 3.84 firearms deaths per 100,000 people. Japan, for comparison, is listed as tied for 73rd at 0.07 firearms deaths per 100,000 people. The WORST country is El Salvador at 50.36 fireams deaths per 100,000 people. (Crosses-off El Salvador as a vacation spot.) The wiki page makes a note of saying the list is incomplete, so un-named countries might fit in between listed countries.

    I would check those "Nationmaster" stats to see when they were compiled. The numbers on the Wiki page were gathered within the last couple of years.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

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    lapinsubmarine

    hey everybody. here is one from switzerland. in switzerland every male citizen does have to go to the military service (if not suspended cause of illness, or he doesnt want to and then he does some civil service). the first military service called RS (rekrutenschule - schools for recruit) does hold on three months. after that, you go every year to the military service till an age of 30 (i think, i am not sure - i got a spanish passport) for three weeks. so every male citizen can take his weapon home if he likes. most of them give the weapon back when they finish the military service. there are many discussions about making it mandatory to handle over the weapon after the military service. in my opinion, i would make it mandatory. but thats not the thing here. in this tragic case, the man has been in a psychiatric hospital in 2005. at this time, all his weapons have been taken away from him and destroyed . its not clear from where he did get the weapon he used yesterday. its a tragic case, like all this cases. i would say that switzerland is as safe as japan is. i have no numbers or statistics for that. i dont say that there are no other problems. thats for sure. but safety is not really bad here around. but you could get killed by a cow (like it happens every summer when hikers cross a cow pasture).

    my thoughts with the families of the victims. they are now in hands of the care teams, and not let alone. one of the nice things in switzerland. we got great social nets that helps out in such tragic cases.

    many regards to japan from here.

    sincerly,

    t

    PS: sooorry my english, its not really good :(

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    Fadamor

    I should point out that the wiki page I pointed out above deals with ALL firearms deaths and makes no distinction why the gun killed someone. The most recent data for the U.S. puts ALL death by firearms at 10.4 deaths per 100,000 people. It is broken down as follows:

    Accidental Discharge: 0.3

    Suicide: 6.3

    Assault (Homicide): 3.6

    Law Enforcement: 0.1

    Undetermined: 0.1

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    Fadamor

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    cleo

    Fadamor, thanks for the stats. So while Switzerland with guns does have a higher homicide-by-firearm rate than countries where there are strong restrictions on the ownership of guns, it is nowhere near as high as the places where any fool can get himself armed to the teeth at the drop of a hat. On the Nationmaster list, it should fit in at #20, below Portugal, Bulgaria and Slovenia and above Germany, Moldova and Hungary.

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    lostrune2

    So the next shooter didn't turn out to be American but a Swiss. Switzerland has high gun ownership but lower gun fatality rate. Maybe 'cause they teach 'em how to properly use and store guns? Or its gun use is due to patriotic duty?

    http://world.time.com/2012/12/20/the-swiss-difference-a-gun-culture-that-works/

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    Fadamor

    Well, we just had the 9 who were killed by an apparently drunk and drugged Filipino.

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/shooting-rampage-in-philippines-leaves-9-dead

    Remember folks, guns don't commit mass murder. They're just the tool used that makes mass murder possible.

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