Speaker Boehner resigns from Congress; victory for tea party

As much as I despise Boehner, the really scary part is what comes next. The inmates have gotten rid of the warden and will soon attempt to run the asylum.

second in line to the presidency

uh no, that would be the Vice President, yeah? Speaker is third

sf2k - uh no, that would be the Vice President, yeah? Speaker is third.

No. The President is already the President. The VP is first in-line to be President, should the President step down. The Speaker of the House is second in line to the presidency.

Have I got this correct? Is this all over abortion? When are the conservatives going to get over it? And where did they get this crazy belief that life begins at conception anyway? There is not even so much as a heartbeat in a fertilized egg. And a fetus is at best a parasite as it cannot even live outside of the host with out current level of technology. For Pete's sake. There are real issues to be dealt with, and all these guys do is cry and whine and stall because a tiny percentage of the population would like a gay marriage and because they want to force women to have kids they don't want and cannot afford because of superstitious beliefs about when life begins.

At a meeting of the Values Voters Summit in Washington where religious conservatives were gathered to hear from Republican presidential candidates, attendees and some candidates alike erupted in extended applause and cheers at the news Boehner was stepping aside.

Welcome the American Shia-Tea Party!

Thanks to Dick Armey's 'grass roots' creation of the undead gop Americans can now face the terrorism of a religious dictatorship that has predictable results.

Government will be shut down and Billions spent to achieve a religious litmus test for any activity that might have implications counter to the fanaticism of gop-tea Stalinism.

Hurrah Mr. Armey! Your 'grass roots' Tea has germinated into drunk with power religiosity. Moa would be proud. Of course Mr. Armey could care less. He already got his millions, with the aid of an armed body guard, when he dumped the Gop-Tea disaster in America's lap.

Mr. Boehner's cowardice in the face of a religious revolt is typical of the gop-tea. Get in, get the dough and leave the rest to history. Just like AWOL.

Welcome the American Shia-Tea Party!

What about the Obama Sharia theocracy? No mention???

Government will be shut down and Billions spent to achieve a religious litmus test for any activity that might have implications counter to the fanaticism of gop-tea Stalinism.

Doesn't have to be, if the Dems and the Tyrant president would be smart enough, noble enough and honorable enough to meet the GOP halfway, there wouldn't be a need for a possible shutdown.

Hurrah Mr. Armey! Your 'grass roots' Tea has germinated into drunk with power religiosity.

So what about Obama being high on power, we didn't even get to the part of corruption yet....

Moa would be proud. Of course Mr. Armey could care less. He already got his millions, with the aid of an armed body guard, when he dumped the Gop-Tea disaster in America's lap.

What about that Billion dollar library the president is building? A billion dollars? Tax payer!! What the heck are they putting in there that this guy would even remotely deserve???

Mr. Boehner's cowardice in the face of a religious revolt is typical of the gop-tea. Get in, get the dough and leave the rest to history. Just like AWOL.

But at least he has a soul.

'What about the Obama Sharia theocracy? No mention???'

A socialist, Muslim theocrat who has seen the rich get richer and supports same sex-marriage? Quite the character.

Barking mad partisanship. Look at the real religious lunatics running around in the GOP. They are destroying your party. You should be as furious with them as the Commie/Muslim tyrant.

A socialist, Muslim theocrat who has seen the rich get richer and supports same sex-marriage? Quite the character.

And don't forget he eats bacon and drinks beer. Hell of a Muslim.

My major gripe with Boehner was that he didn't lead congress into a tougher fight opposing the iran nuclear deal.

Finally hit his breaking point. I hope this next republican (wow, from CA of all places) K Mc Carthy can row the boat straight.

because deep down you're just upset there's a black president

Not at all. Alan Keyes, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton . . . those would've been black presidents.

Barrack ain't the first black president, he's just the first president who happens to be half White. And with all the foreign policy crap he's pulled (and is pulling) makes me wonder where his loyalties lie. Hey, but don't blame me- I didn't vote for "change".

Lord only knows what will happen to the GOP next. My recommendation to Democrats is to stay as far away from the chaos as possible.

"the really scary part is what comes next."

Sarah Palin has not ruled out a comeback... in fact she had a great "phone conversation" with "Donad Trump" on The Tonight Show, ha ha

Peace OutSEP. 26, 2015 - 10:01AM JST Have I got this correct? Is this all over abortion?

Only indirectly. A GOP-affiliated propaganda group dishonestly edited an interview with people from Planned Parenthood to make completely reasonable reimbursement for tissue transfer fees sound like PP is a butcher shop where babies get chopped up and sold to the highest bidder. Rubio is even claiming it's an industry where women are pressured to get abortions to increase PP's profits. It's all a complete lie of course, but that doesn't matter. The GOP doesn't actually want to stop abortion at this point. They just want to use it to motivate their base, because their base is desperate to feel self-righteous and will lap up any old lie if it creates the opportunity.

House Speaker John Boehner's sudden resignation Friday "signals that the crazies have taken over the party," New York Republican Peter King said Friday.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/john-boehner-resigns-peter-king-reaction-214083#ixzz3mpVmCwMu

Yup.

Bye, bye Orange Man. The white only country club will be kinder to you in retirement than the monster that you created and nurtured all those years.

I always had a soft spot for Beohner since he was the one who spoke for the party so often. He had to go out there and sell the GOP like everything was under control. He would look you in the eye and say that an alternative to Obamacare was just around the corner, but deep down I suspected that he hated being the clown.

On the other hand, he blocked a bi-partisan vote on immigration that would have gone a long way in bridging the gap between the parties. I think we'd be much better off today in the debate had that legislation gone through. That's borderline unforgivable.

What about that Billion dollar library the president is building? A billion dollars? Tax payer!!

@Bass: You have anything to back your claim up that this billion dollars to be paid for by tax payers? You said tax payers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/us/politics/with-high-profile-help-obama-plots-life-after-presidency.html?_r=0

How will the Obama Foundation pay for the Presidential Center?

The Obama Foundation will raise all of the funds needed for construction of the project; neither taxpayer funds nor university funds will be used in the construction of the Obama Presidential Center. Once completed, the Foundation will provide NARA with an endowment equivalent to 60% of the total cost of all portions of the facility transferred to NARA. The Foundation will be responsible for funding and operating the rest of the Center.

What the heck are they putting in there that this guy would even remotely deserve???

Not surprised you don't know this either. Presidential libraries hold the official and personal papers of the presidents.

see the links... educate yourself. An actual journalist would know this.

http://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1986-act.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_library

Boehner was too weak to tame the lunatics in the House GOP. And so in the end they ran him out of town on a rail.

A radical conservative from the Gingrich days destroyed by his own protégés.

The current GOP is in full implosion. A mix of Animal Farm and Lord of the Flies.

the pubies have been on a downward spiral ever since the dark days of bush jr. and gang. The best they can do now is front jeb, and who wants that again. I dont like Obamas foriegn policy, but dude, come on, he isnt a muslim or a commie. He saved the auto industry and got the economy back on track. he opened up trade with Cuba. He got Osama. He did allot for the Gay community. Ok, he a bit too left for me, but give the dude his credit. What did Bush do? You dont remember 2008-9?

Pyrrhic victory for the Teas. They're already gunning for McConnell, and they'll next turn on their future speaker McCarthy as soon as it becomes apparent that to actually govern, he will have to act no differently than Boehner.

Also, looks like this will all come to a head in December - the most wonderful time of the year to shut down government services.

Never thought I'd say this, but I have a feeling that I'll miss Boehner: after this, the abyss.

Republican...Democrat...makes no difference. They're all war mongers. Those that THINK there is a difference are just idiots. GO Trump!

'Republican...Democrat...makes no difference. They're all war mongers. Those that THINK there is a difference are just idiots. GO Trump!'

Is Trump a pacifist? Should people stop calling him 'The Donald' and use 'The Mahatma'! Is that title blasphemous in the GOP?

Is Trump a pacifist?

I see you didn't address the fact that all are war mongers.

I do have to admit that I enjoy the peaceful times, the times when something big happens to the GOP and the Republican posters here aren't able to post anything because their handlers haven't developed the talking points yet. Of course they could come here and write their own opinions, but that's just not how they work.

Laguna: McCarthy as soon as it becomes apparent that to actually govern, he will have to act no differently than Boehner.

Yep. They are a party that believes they can govern without compromise, but what they refuse to understand is that they just don't have the numbers to do that. There is no Republican super majority and they don't have the White House, so by definition we know their strategy is flawed regardless of who is at the helm.

I've read quite a few articles about this and what seems to be popping up a lot is the sentiment that Boehner "didn't stop Obama enough." The numbers to repeal Obamacare have never been there and every legal challenge has been pushed back. Shutting down the government didn't work. It's not that Boehner didn't try, but he had zero chance of success. What's the next guy going to do differently?

One thing they'll probably try is to eliminate the filibuster entirely. The can say that things are just so drastic with Obama that they have no choice but to stop this madness. The script pretty much writes itself. Serve it up with a side of patriotism.

The second part would be to ramp up the fear and anger angle. Immigration will become even more of a hot button. I think the party will most likely let the rumors fly about where Obama was born and if he's a Muslim. They have to paint themselves as the saviors of America and at the end of the day they'll take the vote of the crazies.

To sum it up....more entrenchment.

A socialist, Muslim theocrat who has seen the rich get richer and supports same sex-marriage? Quite the character.

Doesn't Obama have a lot of money?

Barking mad partisanship. Look at the real religious lunatics running around in the GOP.

But atheists lunatics is perfectly acceptable???

They are destroying your party. You should be as furious with them as the Commie/Muslim tyrant.

First of all, NOT my party. I am furious that the leadership is just plain dumb, as well as the guy in the White House!

Lord only knows what will happen to the GOP next. My recommendation to Democrats is to stay as far away from the chaos as possible.

Better yet, they should stay away from Obama if they want to remain a little relevant in this race.

Only indirectly. A GOP-affiliated propaganda group dishonestly edited an interview with people from Planned Parenthood to make completely reasonable reimbursement for tissue transfer fees sound like PP is a butcher shop where babies get chopped up and sold to the highest bidder.

If you really believe they did that, then People like that need to get their heads examined. The video spoke for itself, the doctors didn't just make it up. I hope they defund PP there are plenty of other places where they get the money privately without having many of us feeling decieved or being part of something so insidious.

On the other hand, he blocked a bi-partisan vote on immigration that would have gone a long way in bridging the gap between the parties.

No, it wouldn't have. It would have greatly benefited the Democrats and further allow unfettered access for aliens to come into the country, also, there was nothing in the plan that Obama and his minions would guarantee to close the border once and for all.

I think we'd be much better off today in the debate had that legislation gone through. That's borderline unforgivable.

I disagree.

You have anything to back your claim up that this billion dollars to be paid for by tax payers? You said tax payers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210323/Obama-family-costs-taxpayers-1-4BILLION-year.html

Barack Obama and his family cost the taxpayer $1.4billion per year, according to a recently published book

Not surprised you don't know this either.

I do.

Presidential libraries hold the official and personal papers of the presidents.

So what do Obama's personal papers hold besides doodles?

see the links... educate yourself. An actual journalist would know this.

Unlike the president who created the universe, I am just a mere mortal. So my apologies.

The current GOP is in full implosion. A mix of Animal Farm and Lord of the Flies.

And even when you mix it all up, it doesn't even come remotely close to the sheer lunacy that Pelosi and Reid brought to the Democratic Party. And that's just just 2 party members.

It's nice that hating the black American President has so many fans.

Reading endless promotion of prejudice is far more instructive than any historical rendition. What the reader sees is the bigot has a platform for his hatred of color and can be evaluated on the content of character not the color of his skin.

Job well done JT for providing this opportunity to examine the anatomy of prejudice up close. And thanks also to those who so freely provide the carcass of racial hate.

It's nice that hating the black American President has so many fans.

No, just this radical tyrant and who could blame them?

Reading endless promotion of prejudice is far more instructive than any historical rendition. What the reader sees is the bigot has a platform for his hatred of color and can be evaluated on the content of character not the color of his skin.

So why is it Ok for Libs to use the race card without any repercussions?

Job well done JT for providing this opportunity to examine the anatomy of prejudice up close. And thanks also to those who so freely provide the carcass of racial hate.

The Libs have enough meat to go around.

Did you not understand the question that was asked concerning your first claim, the lie about library funding? You actually quoted the question, and then directly replied to it, only with an irrelevant answer.

No, don't try and jump out of this. Yeah, sure they are getting donations for this library, but the tax payer is still paying for a lot and for this president and the question is, what for. I don't care if the guy gets a library all presidents do, but the cost is what gets me. Like I said, the fast the days go by until joker is gone, the better we'll all be.

bass

First you make this claim:

What about that Billion dollar library the president is building? A billion dollars? Tax payer!!

Utterly false. Obama's library will be privately funded. No money whatsoever from the taxpayer.

When you realize that error you deflect and come up with another supposed 'fact' (cited in a tabloid):

Barack Obama and his family cost the taxpayer $1.4billion per year, according to a recently published book

Michele Bachmann tried to sell this idea over two years ago. And it didn't fly. The allegation is from a self-published book by a Republican lobbyist that is sketchy on how the author calculated that figure. Another book by a GW aide (someone on the inside with better access to info) calculated the Bush presidency costing $1.6 billion a year. So it seems that if the figure you quote is even true, it certainly is not out of the ordinary for presidents in the 21st century.

But I guess this is the nature of far right 'journalism'. Just make stuff up and then deflect. As another famous rightwinger famously said, “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” Fortunately, the number of people who believe this crap is shrinking.

More proof of the implosion of the right.

Utterly false. Obama's library will be privately funded. No money whatsoever from the taxpayer.

If YOU want to believe that, go right ahead, Plastic.

When you realize that error you deflect and come up with another supposed 'fact' (cited in a tabloid):

Barack Obama and his family cost the taxpayer $1.4billion per year, according to a recently published book

Just putting it out there. But I know Libs only believe in things libs publish or only if the facts goes the way they want it go to go, other than that, its dismissible. I understand.

Michele Bachmann tried to sell this idea over two years ago. And it didn't fly.

Just like when Obama tried to see his idea of If you like your doctor, you can keep him or Planned Parenthood doesn't chop up babies? As you said, it's not flying or do you want it to?

The allegation is from a self-published book by a Republican lobbyist that is sketchy on how the author calculated that figure.

So now we're into chasing ghosts?

Another book by a GW aide (someone on the inside with better access to info) calculated the Bush presidency

But NOT library. Big difference.

costing $1.6 billion a year. So it seems that if the figure you quote is even true, it certainly is not out of the ordinary for presidents in the 21st century.

But I guess this is the nature of far right 'journalism'. Just make stuff up and then deflect.

No, that would be the left, had to deal with it for 12 years at msnbc. Just laying it out there, Plastic.

As another famous rightwinger famously said, “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” Fortunately, the number of people who believe this crap is shrinking.

So that's why Hillary, her minions and Obama are fading very fast in the limelight, but not fast enough IMHO. You are right about that!

More proof of the implosion of the right.

Well, that's actually both parties. Keep it real, dude.

The Shia-Tea has achieved their goal. A basis for a religious dictatorship over the U.S. Constitution.

Speaker Boehner has resigned and the Shia-Tea will now make their play to create an American Theocracy.

Obviously here some remain completely ignorant of the threat these half-wit zealots will wreck on the separation of Church and State in the American experience.

We wish them well but, the destruction of liberty, conscience and science will now be subject to the whims of the intellectual giants of a Rump and Palin fail'in who will dismember American liberty and replace it with the long hoped for Shia-Tea.

Goodnight America, it was nice to think you were the land of liberty and home of the brave but Speaker Boehner proved the fecklessness of the gop-shia-tea is for a purpose. The dismantling of the US Constitution and rule of law in the States. The gop-shia-tea has now achieved what Osama and AlKatie were unable to achieve,

I'm not the one who made the unsupportable statement.

You didn't have to. There has been enough evidence and reports on the issue, don't hate the messenger, hate the message.

All that anyone asked of you is to support the claim - your claim, that you now have to squirm away from - that the Obama library will cost the taxpayer a billion dollars.

I already did and even then for you libs it wasn't good enough. So just believe what you want, it wouldn't be the first time libs believed what they want.

And as you see, many comments back now, someone has already shown that it does not, and they've also shown how to provide evidence.

No, it actually didn't, but please continue...

While here you are, still stuck with your fake claim, no evidence, and engaging in pointless Coulteresque ground-shifting.

Quite the contrary.

bass

I already did and even then for you libs it wasn't good enough.

No, you didn't give a single bit of evidence.

Debating you is like debating Homer Simpson. You support your claim that the billion dollar library will be funded by taxpayers by using a story from 2 years ago about Obama's security costs (which are seemingly no different than those of GW).

Barack Obama and his family cost the taxpayer $1.4billion per year, according to a recently published book

'A socialist, Muslim theocrat who has seen the rich get richer and supports same sex-marriage? Quite the character.

Doesn't Obama have a lot of money?'

Yes. What's your point? I'm just waiting for your evidence that Obama is a Muslim theocrat. Please don't quote from a rightist English tabloid which the majority of English conservatives wouldn't take seriously to do this. You may as well quote from the Sun, a paper owned by the very same man who owns Fox News.

As a journalist who's been published in the Washington Post, I thought you'd know this and have higher standards.

Ah, the Republican implosion is beginning, and bass is fighting for a bogus statistic on the Obama library. Head firmly planted in the sand. Just like us libs.

bass4funk: "No, don't try and jump out of this. Yeah, sure they are getting donations for this library, but the tax payer is still paying for a lot and for this president and the question is, what for."

Already proven to be lies, and when YOU are asked to give proof, you absolutely cannot, saying only, "Just throwing it out there," and, "believe what you want", and all this ON A THREAD ABOUT BOEHNER quitting! You're so off-topic in your outright hatred that you can't even back yourself up -- and you claim to have worked for a news station and talk about others 'making things up' when they have given proof but you cannot??

"I don't care if the guy gets a library all presidents do, but the cost is what gets me."

So, you 'don't care', but you do care. That sounds about bass4funk alright.

In any case, good riddance to bad rubbish. Boehner made his bed, he gets to lie in it, and from now on we get to further watch the GOP circus top coming down. The party is destroying itself completely, and THIS is why you are angry deep down inside, bass; because everyone who says so, and points out the facts of it happening -- and they are facts -- are right and have been all along.

No, you didn't give a single bit of evidence.

Leaving aside the fact that no one knows which evidence or reports you are referring to, it isn't enough if they are not true.

Because you apparently refused to accept the truth, now I'm the bad guy????

Someone has already posted the information here that makes that claim of yours a lie. You haven't suggested anything that shows otherwise, and have moved off the subject whenever possible.

Keep telling yourself that and you just might believe it....but... (Sigh) Yeah, I did. And let's try once more, because for some reason, you libs just don't want to accept the harsh reality.

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/lawmakers-sweeten-pitch-for-the-obama-library-with-taxpayer-dollars/

To gussy up their pitch, some Illinois politicians have offered up $100 million in taxpayer dollars that would be allocated to the construction of the site, expected to cost at least $500 million in total. But the costs won’t stop once the last brick has been laid – the day-to-day operations and maintenance of the nation’s 13 presidential libraries cost taxpayers $75 million in fiscal year 2013 alone.

Let's put this dog to rest, shall we?

Debating you is like debating Homer Simpson.

Trust me, I feel the same about you libs, but let's continue...

You support your claim that the billion dollar library will be funded by taxpayers by using a story from 2 years ago about Obama's security costs (which are seemingly no different than those of GW).

As if in 2 years, there was Karnak the great predicting that now all of a sudden the tax dollars wouldn't all of a sudden be used. What the....ROFL!

Barack Obama and his family cost the taxpayer $1.4billion per year, according to a recently published book.

Like flying to California on two separate flights using Airforce One and on the same day? But hey, as long as they can schmuse with the Hollywood crowd. I mean, who cares, right? But it's not their money, so why would they care?

Ah, the Republican implosion is beginning, and bass is fighting for a bogus statistic on the Obama library. Head firmly planted in the sand. Just like us libs.

I'm perfectly aware that this election cycle pains you because you have a habitual lying candidate, a socialist and possibly a senile old man trying to take his shot at the WH for one last time. With that kind of an all star lineup, I'd be taking in a bucket full of Mylanta myself. Try and keep trying, maybe the Dems will put up a candidate that can excite the base....but wait, after 7 years of a disastrous presidency and we won't go into micromanaging his foreign policy, the Dems are exactly in the same position that the GOP was in 2008, they didn't want to accept the truth and you libs don't want to do that either. History just keeps on repeating itself....

Already proven to be lies, and when YOU are asked to give proof, you absolutely cannot, saying only, "Just throwing it out there," and, "believe what you want",

But I did....

and all this ON A THREAD ABOUT BOEHNER quitting! You're so off-topic in your outright hatred that you can't even back yourself up -- and you claim to have worked for a news station and talk about others 'making things up' when they have given proof but you cannot??

I claim nothing, my career has absolutely nothing to do with my personal opinions on JT, but nice try. As far as Boehner is concerned, I didn't hate the man, I am thankful that with his leadership, he was able to get the ball rolling in finding out the truth as to what went down in Benghazi. Also, the man did what he could, wouldn't have mattered much, Obama was one to never compromise, so whatever the GOP controlled congress would throw at Obama, he would just overuse his Veto powers, again, don't blame him for stepping down, he didn't want to be involved in another possible shutdown, but then we all know that Dems don't believe r care about life, just as long as they are in lock, step with this president, that's all that matters.

So, you 'don't care', but you do care. That sounds about bass4funk alright.

I don't about the library, but care when these keep on with their Robbing from Paul to give to Peter. But then again, I have never met a Dem that wasn't attracted to a tax.

In any case, good riddance to bad rubbish. Boehner made his bed, he gets to lie in it, and from now on we get to further watch the GOP circus top coming down.

How so? Trump is doing great. How's Hillary doing lately?

The party is destroying itself completely, and THIS is why you are angry deep down inside, bass; because everyone who says so, and points out the facts of it happening -- and they are facts -- are right and have been all along.

Actually, you are right, I do have a lot of anger inside of me and that is towards the guy in the White House. That fact, unlike the other nonsense that libs put out, this guy can't get out of our lives soon enough and that would be in another 408 more days and that's the only thing that brings a smile to my face.

bass4funk: "I claim nothing,"

Yes, you absolutely did. You made a claim that you cannot verify, and that has been proven wrong, and that you can only back up with "but you libs just believe what you like" while that is EXACTLY what you are doing -- well, more like sticking your fingers in your ears after having spoken and shouting what you have make-believed into what you think is true.

"...my career has absolutely nothing to do with my personal opinions on JT, but nice try."

It does when you claim others are making things up and not giving proof, when they have, and when in the past you have claimed FOX 'news' is reliable, etc.

"That fact, unlike the other nonsense that libs put out, this guy can't get out of our lives soon enough and that would be in another 408 more days and that's the only thing that brings a smile to my face."

How very, very sad (and don't bother with the sandbox "I know you are but what am I" retort, either). I'm glad you can at least admit that your posts are just based on personal anger and bitterness. It's a shame, like those you support, you can't focus it into positive energy and work towards making said people and groups work for the better, and instead just crumble as they are now, looking for the next person to be angry and bitter at for no reason instead of trying to make your own life better and the lives of those around you (let's see how long it takes you to avoid answering and instead shout about Obama!).

"How so? Trump is doing great. How's Hillary doing lately?"

How so? The GOP is now going to gun for another of its members, Mitch McConnell, and probably force him to quit his position as well. They have said they will accept nothing less than white, religious fanatics who are racist and hate women (to paraphrase). They are actually shaping up to be far worse than radical Islamists, and more dangerous. And no, Obama is not Muslim, before you make that mistake again (or is it just a hope?).

Yes, you absolutely did. You made a claim that you cannot verify, and that has been proven wrong, and that you can only back up with "but you libs just believe what you like" while that is EXACTLY what you are doing -- well, more like sticking your fingers in your ears after having spoken and shouting what you have make-believed into what you think is true.

But I did show you proof, but I guess that fingers in the ear analogy applies to you as well....

It does when you claim others are making things up and not giving proof, when they have, and when in the past you have claimed FOX 'news' is reliable, etc.

No, my career doesn't have anything to do with the topic and if Fox wasn't reliable at all, they wouldn't be where they are now. If you don't like them, fine, but give credit where credit is due, numbers don't lie.

How very, very sad (and don't bother with the sandbox "I know you are but what am I" retort, either).

So now I'm a bad guy for saying the truth????

I'm glad you can at least admit that your posts are just based on personal anger and bitterness.

Towards the president and the DNC, YES, at least for another 408 more days.

It's a shame, like those you support, you can't focus it into positive energy and work towards making said people and groups work for the better, and instead just crumble as they are now, looking for the next person to be angry and bitter at for no reason instead of trying to make your own life better and the lives of those around you (let's see how long it takes you to avoid answering and instead shout about Obama!).

My life is great, but thanks for the concern, but back on track and seriously, how can you libs be content with a president that just doesn't care what congress thinks? Boehner's departure though necessary, I feel is setting up something bad to come, the decorum of civil politics which is affecting both parties. The hatred and vitriol of what this admin. has done to the country is so over the top strong, If a Republican is by chance elected to the presidency (too early to tell) he or she can or might do the same thing that this admin. has done in retaliatory attacks towards the DNC. It's possible and if so, that would be a waste of time, because we need real leadership and this tit for tat with both parties has taken on a whole new life of its own and that's not good for the country and that is what deeply concerns me as an American.

How so? The GOP is now going to gun for another of its members, Mitch McConnell, and probably force him to quit his position as well. They have said they will accept nothing less than white, religious fanatics who are racist and hate women (to paraphrase).

What you just said, is the equivalent to many on the right accusing Obama of not being an American citizen or Muslim. Now, now! By the way, Carson, Cruz and Rubio aren't White....but they are angry!

They are actually shaping up to be far worse than radical Islamists, and more dangerous. And no, Obama is not Muslim, before you make that mistake again (or is it just a hope?).

When the GOP start cutting off peoples heads and blowing stuff up, I'll take your word for it, otherwise it's just, you know what...

So do you think the next speaker will shut down the government and put all of those people out of work?

So do you think the next speaker will shut down the government and put all of those people out of work?

I hope so, but I know it probably won't do any good, so if I were the GOP, I would just wait it out until Obama's out of office. We endured 7 years of this guy, so whats another 15 months?

IMO, both sides of US politics are both equally to blame and equally insane.

That's right.

So, let me get this clear, Obama isn't a Muslim theocrat? I checked The Daily Mail and The Sun and found nothing to support this idea. Did Fox cover this?

So, let me get this clear, Obama isn't a Muslim theocrat? I checked The Daily Mail and The Sun and found nothing to support this idea. Did Fox cover this?

If you want to believe that, the same way if you guys choose to believe a large portion of Obama's future library is NOT coming from tax payers. It all depends on what you believe is the truth.

@Bass Forget the library. Can I just confirm that you regard Obama as a Muslim theocrat? You did say this and haven't denied it in your following mails. Are you really sure you want to stick with that statement? This unworthy of a professional, informed journalist and highly educated man published in the Washington Post.

If you are sticking with it, could you give me your idea of what Muslims believe and what a theocrat is? I seem to have been terribly misinformed about the beliefs and practices of Islam and the definition of a theocrat.

Forget the library. Can I just confirm that you regard Obama as a Muslim theocrat? You did say this and haven't denied it in your following mails.

I never said, Obama was a Muslim! He said, he's a Christian, so why should I not believe him, but then there are times that he's to apologetic and loves to appease the Muslim world. Saying, the sweetest sound is the sound of the call for prayer. Statements like that is what gives people pause.

Are you really sure you want to stick with that statement? This unworthy of a professional, informed journalist and highly educated man published in the Washington Post.

I used that statement as an example, I already explaned that to you. Please go back and read why I wrote that.

If you are sticking with it, could you give me your idea of what Muslims believe and what a theocrat is? I seem to have been terribly misinformed about the beliefs and practices of Islam and the definition of a theocrat.

You can either check on the Internet or your local library if you really want to get In depth knowledge and insight about the religion.

Boehner is starting to open up a bit...

John Boehner trashes conservative groups who force agenda

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/27/politics/john-boehner-ted-cruz-conservative-groups/index.html

John Boehner lashed out at "false prophets" in the right's ranks, blaming them for political strategies that "never had a chance" even while taking the government into fiscal crises.

"Absolutely, they're not realistic," the retiring House speaker said of hard-line conservatives and outside groups in a Sunday interview on CBS' "Face the Nation."

He pointed to the October 2013 shutdown after conservative House Republicans demanded the repeal of President Barack Obama's signature health care law as one maneuver -- led by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz -- that was never going to succeed.

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Boehner said conservative, Washington-based groups knew the goals they were championing couldn't be accomplished but pressed for them anyway.

"And so, we've got groups here in town, members of the House and Senate here in town, who whipped people into a frenzy believing they can accomplish things that they know -- they know -- are never going to happen," he said.

And so, we've got groups here in town, members of the House and Senate here in town, who whipped people into a frenzy believing they can accomplish things that they know -- they know -- are never going to happen," he said.

True, but it doesn't you can't try or you should give in to your principles, regardless of the fallout.

True, but it doesn't you can't try or you should give in to your principles, regardless of the fallout.

Sacrificing your country for unobtainable ideals? That is most definitely not the mark of a good leader.

Sacrificing your country for unobtainable ideals? That is most definitely not the mark of a good leader.

Good leader? But that's something we sadly don't have.

Good leader? But that's something we sadly don't have

I agree, you republicans are seriously hurting in that matter.

bass4funk: True, but it doesn't you can't try or you should give in to your principles, regardless of the fallout.

But the problem is that voters are being told that these goals are obtainable and the one guy pointing out that they are not has been sacked, and the false prophets are cheering and keeping their jobs. That's the fallout. That's not standing up for your principals, that's shifting the blame to the one guy who understands the reality of the situation, then getting rid of him.

So who will replace him? Beohner has shown that setting realistic expectations will get you removed. Will the next guy take the same path and work within the limits, or will he turn the GOP leadership into a false prophet himself? It's a Catch-22. You have to promise something you can't deliver to become speaker, and if you don't then you will never become speaker.

I agree, you republicans are seriously hurting in that matter.

Not only the GOP, buddy. Add this disastrous president and the Dems and you have a very toxic concoction.

So who will replace him?

Kevin McCarthy (R-CA)

Beohner has shown that setting realistic expectations will get you removed. Will the next guy take the same path and work within the limits, or will he turn the GOP leadership into a false prophet himself? It's a Catch-22. You have to promise something you can't deliver to become speaker, and if you don't then you will never become speaker.

That's not standing up for your principals, that's shifting the blame to the one guy who understands the reality of the situation, then getting rid of him.

Absolutely not, that would be pure capitulation.

The base wants someone compromise less than what Boehner did. Does that mean, there will be a win, No, but to make a point, put it on record and never give in to your principles.

I was counting on a budget battle to do two things.

I was hoping that it would show the GOP how very little they have accomplished over the last 8 years despite having majorities and various opportunities. They would also see that the way to get more done is to keep a lot of moderate GOP people in rather than tossing them out and replacing them with know-nothings TP people. A budget battle would have weakened Trump, Carson and Fiorina. Lack of budget controversy leaves them on top.

I was hoping that the scarcity of people with experience at the national level among the GOP candidates would be a stark signal to GOP voters of what a bunch of outsiders and lame-oids they really have running this year. Lack of a budget battle will not give any of the experienced Washington people a chance to run on their record. Again, this leaves Trump, Carson, and Fiorina on top.

With Boehner gone and the budget likely to be a non-issue this go-round, we can look forward to more of the same, but GOP voters will not have to look at it before the election. The train wreck was avoided, but a bigger one is just down the tracks. The party of NO rolls on down the line.

5SpeedRacer: I was hoping that the scarcity of people with experience at the national level among the GOP candidates would be a stark signal to GOP voters of what a bunch of outsiders and lame-oids they really have running this year.

Recalls the Democratic primaries 7 years ago, the battle of the Freshman Senator vs. the Sophomore Senator.

Bill must still be smarting over that one!

bass: The base wants someone compromise less than what Boehner did.

What did Boehner compromise on? And please be specific.