Students helped stop gunman at Seattle university

This incident, like so many others, is a mental health issue. What meds(SSRI) was he taking?

" Accused Seattle gunman suffers severe mental illness, his lawyer says By Bill Rigby

SEATTLE (Reuters) - The man accused of killing one person and wounding two others in a shooting spree at a small Christian college in Seattle suffers from "significant and long-standing mental health issues" that were a factor in the tragedy, his lawyer said on Friday.

Speaking to reporters after a court hearing in which a judge ordered the suspect, Aaron Ybarra, 26, held without bail on suspicion of first-degree murder and assault, defense attorney Ramona Brandes also said her client had been involuntarily committed in the past because of mental illness.…"

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0EH11D20140606?irpc=932

John, roughly a fifth of the population is severely (5%) or mildly (15%) mentally incapacitated. That's 60 million people. What do you propose? Force feeding medication?

A good betting pool would be "How long until the next mass shooting in America?" I say one week, next Friday.

What we need to do is arm every American, that way they can attempt to defend themselves from even more mass shootings, and the betting pool can be done on an hourly basis rather than a day to week basis. Won't that be fun?

In this case a pepper spray armed citizen stopped the gunman. In other instances it is armed police that stops them. Common denominator, armed human.

Will we have more mass shootings, yes. Why? I wish we knew. Is it because guns are present? No, they always have been in USA. It seems a glorious way to fame for the imbalanced. Young white males...common denominator.

These causes can be investigated and determined more accurately! Instead it is a battle between gun owners and gun opposers. Take away the gun and the behavioral condition still exists. What would be banned next, knives, matches and accelerants, cars, poisons of all types, ........

Will we have more mass shootings, yes. Why? I wish we knew. Is it because guns are present? No

According to your logic, even if there were no guns, we would still have mass shootings. Perhaps they would use arrows, or those kind of poison darts used in the Indiana Jones movies. Whichever - they both require skill and a certain level of ballsiness to use, unlike guns, which are often inadvertently wielded by children.

MarkG, another common denominator is treatment with SSRIs. A serious problem in USA is the over-medicated society;there's a pill for everything. I wonder how much damage has been done to young minds by early-age prescriptions for brain-chemistry altering drugs.

Laguna, it's pretty clear that with this guy's record of incidents, he should have been already locked up away from society getting some real psychiatric treatment.

More proof, as if it were needed, that guns are the problem, and not the people. If gun-nutters had their way all of the others students would have come out blazing when the first shooter (because they would be shooters after) stopped to reload, and there would have been more deaths and more carnage, and if someone else who was carrying a gun came running and didn't know who the 'bad guy(s)' was would have shot the students trying to stop the shooter, and that person would have been shot, and so on, and so on. Instead, the took down a gunman with pepper spray and sheer courage. No... guns... necessary.

MarkG: "Will we have more mass shootings, yes. Why? I wish we knew. Is it because guns are present? No, they always have been in USA."

And why do you think the USA makes the international news for gun massacres every week, and the thousands of other gun-related deaths are all too common to even make the news at all?

"Take away the gun and the behavioral condition still exists."

The means to massacre does not. HUGE difference.

"What would be banned next, knives, matches and accelerants, cars, poisons of all types"

When you finish cutting up your vegetables with the knife after driving to the supermarket to buy them, get back to us with a serious question, please. Or better yet, try driving to the supermarket on a gun, or cutting up the vegetables with one and tell us how practical a tool it is for daily life.

...he should have been already locked up away from society getting some real psychiatric treatment.

John, I agree with you. Two questions: Who in the government is willing to pay for this, and how? Also, how can these people be kept away from guns when the warning signs arise? Do you have any answers to these questions? - if not, you're just blowing hot air.

@ smith.. Mass massacre's can happen with the list I stated above. Even worse if you think about it. It is the disturbed individual who has the problem not the tool. Last year I read somewhere their were more bludgeoning deaths than gun deaths in the US. 30 years ago how many mass shootings were there?

Maybe John Galt posts another key factor. Overmedication. Also in the last 30 years Violent video games, graphic violent Hollywood movies. Could they play a role also? CLEARLY something changed! It is not availability of guns. They are MORE restricted today compared to 30 years ago. 50 years ago guns were available mail order. Where were those mass shootings???

Laguna, there have been asylums for dangerous individuals for quite some time. Perhaps if the prisons weren't filled with people convicted for plants and plant materials, there would be plenty of space for the truly dangerous.

Also, if they were in protective custody, then they clearly would not have access to any kind of weapons.