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SushiSake3
Heh, the huge irony's really going to hit this November when Boehner, Cantor and the old guy who always looks shocked find themselves thrown on the unemployment heap after the GOP gets a planet-sized shellacking - and realizing that the unemployment benefits they struggled so hard to eliminate are, in fact, important.
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unreconstructed
SS3 is predicting that Boehner and Cantor are going to be unseated by challengers from their respective districts? Hilarious. Who are these challengers ? A planet-sized shellacking! Yeah, like we saw in 2010?
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SushiSake3
Looks like the GOP/conservative elite's rounding on Newt.
Drudge Report, Ann Coulter, Tom deLay, Bob Dole are all slamming the guy.
Heh, funny considering Newt's one of them. :-)
I couldn't help noticing that virtually none of Newt's former colleagues have endorsed him....pretty much says it all.
But Sarah Palin is one who has back-handedly endorsed Newt, and she has come out slamming the conservative elite for trying to slam the door on Newt saying she's seen all these tactics before.
Perhaps Ms. Palin needs to realize the GOP establishment is desperately trying to take Newt down for the same reason they tried to take her down: they know/knew then Palin and now Newt would be a disaster.
Heh, so when Newt goes down in flames - give him a few more days - the GOP-annointed will be the Flip Flopper himself and one of the biggest takedown targets on the block - Mitt.
Heh, funniest election cycle yet.
Someone needs to tell conservatives - you need to learn how to pick candidates based on more than just how proudly ignorant, uneducated, anti-immigrant, pro-war they are.
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SushiSake3
Heh, the next time someone tells you that the Republicans care about Americans, show them this list:
Dubdubdub.addictinginfo.org/2011/01/03/bills-republicans-have-blocked/
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SushiSake3
Can this election process get any more bizarre?
Palin stating that Newt is being treated like Stalin (does she even know who that is?); then Newt saying he'd like to see the moon become the 51st state; Romney and his usual flip-flopping; Santorum pontificating about life in general...this whole GOP primary business is unbelieveable.
Republicans and conservatives should be ashamed that this is the best they have to offer and need to aplogize to everyone for treating a process to elect the leader of the free world with such disdain.
Really, do they HONESTLY think Newt or Mitt would make good presidents?
That idea is hugely funny. But at least conservatives will have a long time (4 more years to be precise) to realize they should take these election processes seriously after they get their butts handed to them on a plate by the Dems this November. :-)
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minello7
Isn't Florida the Nursing home of all the rich retirees??
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SushiSake3
Yes, and it's also home to a massive immigrant population, the same type of people both Newt and Romney have been howling need to be thrown out.
That's why Newt changed the subject this week to building a multiple-billion $ colony on the moon. Hello? Have his handlers not told him there's a recession?
Good switch but way too late for a candidate who is and always has been unelectable.
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Ivan Coughanoffalot
What? What's this got to do with Nicolas Cage?
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Serrano
"Surging Romney"
It's Romney's turn for the surging this week! Next week will be...?
Ivan - Har! What about Keanu Reeves? Har!
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YuriOtani
Well a moon colony would make jobs. It would bring about new technology. The US has spent over a trillion dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq and has nothing to show for it. The bailout money saved the very rich and perhaps 100,000 union members. Why not aspire for better?
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Serrano
YuriOtani - Why not aspire for better? Because we're going to have 4 more years of President Barack Obama, lol.
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plasticmonkey
Examples please, Mitt. Distortion and exaggeration are no substitute for clear reasoning, especially when we're dealing with foreign policy. I suspect he's referring to Iran, and Obama's reluctance to drop some bombs. I also suspect that Mitt will have the same policy as Obama if he gets into the White House, but for now he has to try to feed the Nascar voters some red meat. Shameful nonetheless. What appeasement or accommodation was there in the killing of Osama bin Laden, the support of anti-Gaddafi forces in Libya, or Obama's continuation of the senseless trade embargo with Cuba?
Is there any sense in continuing to post 80,000 troops in Europe? Have Republicans forgotten that the Cold War is over (single-handedly brought down by St. Ronnie)? Have they also forgotten that a bloated military costs money, and that large troop numbers are no longer necessary in the modern world? Doesn't matter to Mitt. If Obama says he'll cut 100,000 personnel, Mitt says he'll add 100,000 and call Obama a weenie.
Oh, military envy. Hate to burst your ego bubble, Mitt, but that's not going to happen no matter who's president. Ours is still bigger than anybody else's, and that's why they admire us and hate us all at the same time.
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YuriOtani
Serrano, sorry dude I can not vote in America! My husband says it does not matter how he votes in Oklahoma.
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zurcronium
Lets see a choice between a arrogant cheater who wants to live on the moon, and a crony capitalist mormon who makes millions for doing nothing and claims to be unemployed.
Once the tea baggers took over the republican party it was all over. Ron P should go third party if he really believes his libertarian spiel. The republicans do not even mention him at all, cause as at least on the US military massive over investment he is 100% correct. US spends as much as the next 13 countries combined. It is insane.
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TorafusuTorasan
"aspire for better"
Nope, just more of the same. I liked the quote you posted from that blast from the past Bob Dole, Yuri. Dole's resentment of Newt costing him votes in 1996 is still simmering, it sounds like.
Herman Cain today popped up to offer his endorsement to underdog Gingrich. I guess he found out he wasn't going to be Stephen Colbert's VP after all.
Russell Pearce just got picked as the #2 man in the Arizona GOP apparatus, only three months after his historic recall--the first ever for a sitting Senate President. Should be interesting if that alienates many AZ moderates.
To paraphrase Jim Hightower, these congress-critters scurry down one hole and pop up again nearby lickety split.
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Laguna
Romney has never been a venture capitalist. He was a purveyor of private equity. There is a big difference.
For some Republicans, appeasement begins at the point just short of invasion. Romney is too intelligent to believe what he says; if elected, his instincts would be to act in a fashion almost identical to Obama, as far as foreign policy goes - though he'd be under pressure from his party to halt Obama's Pentagon spending freeze. It is his economic policies that are disturbing.
Gingrich will never win the nomination now that the Republican establishment has rejected him. Whether he stays in the race through the end, as he's promised, remains to be seen. Romney and the establishment would be most annoyed by that, but if it helps Newt sell books, he's got no incentive to quit.
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Laguna
Actor Jon Voight apparently endorsed Mitt Romney, saying:
Not sure how much that will help Mitt, but at least we know who Angelina Jolie won't be voting for.
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Bartholomew Harte
Well now I've heard it ALL!- Herman Cain endorsing the "NEWT-WIT" ! Almost pissed my pants laughing at that one Two bollwevils in a cornfeild!!
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Madverts
"? A planet-sized shellacking! Yeah, like we saw in 2010?"
Nah, like the one we saw in 2006. Only this time the attack ads just gotten sleazier, if that's possible.
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Madverts
Good posts as ever PlasticMonkey.
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SushiSake3
LOL! Gingrich getting an endorsement from Herman Cain is like getting a call from a recent lover that you have an STD.
But it's totally understandable. they're 2 peas in a pod--cheaters.
But it's still pretty amazing - a guy who was forced to suspend his campaign due to the fact that he cheated on his wife is now endorsing a serial adulterer.
You just can't make this stuff up. :-)
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SushiSake3
An attempt at explaining the GOP nomination clown show.....
A few contributing factors:
1/ Conservative voters only have themselves to blame for the utter shambles the GOP nomination process has become. If conservatives were on average a little bit smarter, they would have seen last year that Bachmann, Cain, Perry, etc. are total losers and an embarrassment to everyone.
2/ Conservatives clearly don't know who who they want as shown by the cycle of pushing each of their joke candidates (except Ron Paul, the guy with 2 first names) to the top and then pulling them down.
3/ They really don't like or trust Mitt, as shown by his steady 25-30% polling for years, and the only way he'll win is by default or because the rest have imploded.
4/ The conservative elite are now starting to panic for a number of reasons:
1/ primarily - the conservative base is so mentally lacking and ignorant that the bunch of losers (except Huntsman) they have put on the national stage are and always have been unelectable.
2/ running with that, at the moment, the loudest of the remaining candidates - Newt - also unelectable - is gaining traction because he's so much like the conservative base: Loud, angry and racist. But his past - as the GOP elite knows all too well - makes him unpalatable and unelectable - but he's only at the top today because of the near total lack of rational thinking ability of the GOP base.
So the situation now is all of the GOP/conservative base's own making.
Conservatives everywhere need to apologize immediately to all Americans. Why? It should be blatantly obvious now: conservatives have never taken the process of electing the next leader of the free world seriously. Every time they treat it like a joke:
Bush in 2000 and again in 2004 wrought unimaginable havoc on the global economy and tanked the US economy.
Supporting Sarah Palin in 2008 - were they serious????
And in 2012, they're propping up a lying serial adulterer and an uber rich elitist who parks his cash in offshore tax havens while claiming to 'understand' the common man.
Are. They. Serious?
Clearly not. For the sake of all of us, the GOP clown show needs to be defeated.
To the humor benefit of all of us, it's pretty clear the GOP will defeat itself even before election day.
Which just goes to show how stupid they really are. Their overall strategy is that they don't have one.
And patriotic Americans everywhere will be cheering in November when the SS GOP goes down.
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unreconstructed
Sushi "I am laughing sooo hard, really, I am " sake3 keps talking about conservatives even as he thinks he unmasks them for flip-flopping and not being real conservatives.
So I have to ask - how does he define a conservative and where on the political spectrum, for leftists like ss3 and company here, does the hated Gingrich or the hated Romney or the hated Cain stand ?
New Zealand has a conservative PM. Is Gingrich to his right or left?
Our closest neighbor Canada has a conservative running the show. Is Newton to his right, or not?
The UK is being led by a nominally conservative leader. Where does NG stand in relation to Cameron ?
Germany is Europe's powerhouse. It too is led by a conservative. Who would get on better with Merkel - the Newt, or Mittens?
France is also led by a conservative. Does Sarkozy want a fluent French speaker like Romney , or do you reckon he'd like to hang with a 'philanderer' like Gingrich?
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Laguna
unreconstructed, I'd advise you to be careful with labels - first, with "hated": none of the three figures you mentioned would likely be met with much more than disdain amongst the American left. "Hate" is generally reserved for Bush.
Conservatives is what conservatives do, and that varies by country, so your rubric above is false. Sarkozy, for example, would be quite liberal in the American political environment.
But to answer your question: Most American liberals would see government as a social tool which should be wielded to correct social ills; the military as a necessary evil, to which funds should be appropriated with caution; the bounty of America's national resources as a common resource that should be shared equitably between the present and future generations; capitalism as an efficient but flawed system in need of oversight; and that religion should be as private as the bedroom.
American conservatives feel quite differently about the above - at least, as long as NIMBY is not involved - then, they tend to become quite liberal.
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SushiSake3
unreconstructed - o, I thought you were going to say something relevant.
Maybe next time.....
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unreconstructed
How like a little authoritarian lefty. You would advise me? In what capacity? As one of Obama's little snitches? Fight the Smears! Attack Watch !
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cracaphat
Romney is set to become the candidate by default. What the Repubs offered up was pretty lame even by normal political standards.The good ones,if any are waiting for Obama's term to finish. The last election centered on Obama's skin color and was America ready.Though not talked about openly, the underlying current will soon be is America ready for a Mormon prez this election.
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Laguna
Yup, I would, in logic and its expression.
Kinda like the guy who saves the puppy drowning in the pond. Don't have to, but it's rather pathetic to watch.
Not aware that Obama has "snitches," and I'm surprised that you even remember that word. Hadn't heard it since junior high school.
That, you see, is the problem you conservatives face: the "smears" come from within your own party. Fratricide, let's call it. It doesn't look likely to end soon. I'd say that the liberals are the least of your concern at the moment; what to do about the Republican establishment fighting a leaderless insurgency?
Attack watch, indeed! Some of us are enjoying this.
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unreconstructed
Ridiculous. We were basically a post-racial nation before Obama came along. Indeed, it is because we were post-racial that the Dems needed to draft Obama (who admitted in 06 he was not reaady to be prez. That is the worst thing I could say of the man, and they are his own words). Dems need to play identity politics. It is their only hope, and the rabble-rousing ex-"community organizer" does it as well as anyone else.
Why? Was the state of Michigan not ready for Romney's father when he was their governor? It was far better off then than it is under Dem leadership these last twenty years.
Was liberal Massachusetts not ready for Mitt Romney ? They elected him governor.
Harry Reid is Mormon. Odd how the media never chooses to focus on this. Oh, wait. The D after his name means we can't .
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unreconstructed
http://www.attackwatch.com/
Do your part. Dear Leader is counting on you...
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Laguna
Hmm. "Rabble rouser" is not a term anyone who's remotely familiar with Obama, past or present, would use. Perhaps Republicans need to "play demonization politics."
Romney's father was an Eisenhower Republican, and his son is a shadow of the father. I am not blaming these individuals: they are intelligent, talented men with a love of their country; the current Republican party, though, is a result of a purposed redesign such that it shares no resemblance to what it was during Romney's father's time just as it shares no resemblance to the Party of Lincoln. It is now the Party of Reactionary Chauvinism.
Also, it's not the Democrats that object to Romney's religion - they are not, after all, going to vote for him anyway.
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Serrano
"the GOP nomination clown show"
You want to see a clown show? The Democrats are actually going to nominate Barack Obama for a second term!
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smithinjapan
Serrano: "You want to see a clown show? The Democrats are actually going to nominate Barack Obama for a second term!"
It's awfully nice of you to pop in from time to time and turn a rather serious debate into the kind of fluff the GOP makes certain is a circus indeed. Thank you... it allows certain tempers to dummy down a bit and return to critical points after realizing how ridiculous the GOP can be at times (Let me predict your response: "No".).
Laguna: Kudos to you on your excellent posts on this thread. True, it has been met with childishness worse than Serrano's, but you make objective points and back it up with facts. Good work!
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Laguna
still, I have to hand it to Serrano and reconstructed: there used to be many who supported the Republican cause before it disintegrated into the farce that it has become, but these two have kept at it! Though the Republican primaries have become nothing more than arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, they're both sure to have front-row views.
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Serrano
"farce"
That would be the Democrats nominating Barack Obama for a second term.
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Serrano
Romney: "( Obama is ) seeking to convince those listening that he can be commander-in-chief"
Um, Romney, he IS the CIC - why, he even ordered the assassination of Osama bin Laden!
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SushiSake3
Laguna, great posts. I particularly enjoyed your tactical beatdown of wannabe American reconstructed in much the same way as I enjoy a good wine after dinner.
[Conservative reflex: wine? He must be in bed with the French!]
Talking French, this conservative campaign is caving almost as quickly as the French did when the Germans rolled over the border in 1940.
Only back then, unlike today's GOP, the Germans had a clear strategy to win.
The strategy of this bunch of GOP misfits is clearly to take out as many of their opponents as possible, which can only benefit their opponents.
That is just plain dumb, sorry.
I've been wondering whether there's any smarter way to elect a candidate of a political party than the self-destructive method the GOP is currently using.
That made me think that maybe the Chinese communists - amazingly - do.
There's no nationwide campaigning and politics of self destruction that America's GOP does so incredibly well - no, the party hierarchy selects a candidate and everyone gets on with things.
Perhaps if the GOP adopted communist tactics, they might actually have a hope in h*ll of winning.
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smithinjapan
Serrano: "That would be the Democrats nominating Barack Obama for a second term."
Isn't this getting tired yet? You've said the same thing twice on this thread, and at least a dozen times during the GOP campaign run to try and deflect the fact that there are ZERO people worthy of running for president on the side of the Republicans. You are starting to make broken records sound good. So what do you suggest to make your nation better, since you claim nothing Obama does is good to misdirect the fact that no one in the GOP has any suggestions?
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SushiSake3
On second thoughts, I think perhaps my previous comment was closer to reality than conservatives would like to admit: today, it seems, the GOP establishment elite DID pick the candidate they want behind closed doors as was shown by the clearly coordinated hit job that blasted Newt from virtually every quarter.
The GOP adopting Chinese communist tactics to elect a candidate......who would have thought?
Not to mention the double standards of conservatives, when wallowing in their insecurities, love to label president Obama a 'socialist.'
Pretty funny and incredibly weak and feeble, but what more can you expect from conservatives?? :-)
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SushiSake3
SmithinJapan - 'So what do you suggest to make your nation better, since you claim nothing Obama does is good to misdirect the fact that no one in the GOP has any suggestions?'
Please don't put 'make your nation better' and 'GOP' in the same sentence when talking to an American conservative.......;-)
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smithinjapan
SushiSake3: "Please don't put 'make your nation better' and 'GOP' in the same sentence when talking to an American conservative.......;-)"
You're right. My bad!
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oginome
Conservatives in Europe are not the same as in crazy America. Right wing American Republicanism repulses them and Angela wouldn't like either Newt or Mittens. It's like picking between syphillis and gonorrhea.
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Serrano
smith: "no one in the GOP has any suggestions ( on how to make their country better )"
sigh Good grief, smith, any politician has suggestions on how to make their country better, Democrat, Republican or whatever.
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Pruitt Igoe 72
I don't understand. I thought this part of the forum was for American voters. Why would Japanese citizens care? I guess "sushisake3" "smithinajapn" are here to practice their English.
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unreconstructed
Another Euro who loathes America and therefore reflexively identifies with Obama and his party. What a coincidence...Like sushisake3 you seem to think we don't notice your disgust for our country and your support for the Democrats.
I guess someone missed Sarkozy's address to our Congress. Next you're going to tell us she is actually nostalgic for the former East German police state you no doubt admired.
So vote Obama --- if you think you can.
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oginome
I'm glad you noticed our disgust. Keep carrying those guns around and shouting how it's 'your right!' as tens of thousands contine to die every year because they don't have health insurance.
When did Merkel become Sarkozy? Oh and Sarkozy's an arrogant idiot and his speech was just diplomacy playing into America's love of rhetoric. And no, East Germany was a totalitarion police state. Germany today however is a hugely successful social capitalist state, with a much higher standard of living than crime-ridden America.
But we've already established I'm not American. Vote for your repugnant, obnoxious, gung ho Republicans.
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