Syrian civil war spills over into Lebanon

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    slumdog

    Here's a crazy thought

    Here's a crazy thought, until you can show some credible evidence of 100% of the rebels being foreign and also members of al-Qaeda, perhaps you should stop claiming it.

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    Elbuda Mexicano

    If Lebanon falls too it will only get messier and bloodier!!

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    Elbuda Mexicano

    Jihad is a first name??

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    SuperLib

    Assad should not have started this mess.

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    tkoind2

    NeverSubmit. Every day you keep posting accusations about Jihadis and foreign soldiers in Syria, but you post no proof what so ever.

    I respect that you support the Syrian government. I am sure you have your reasons. But as an activist with many years of political experience, I support any citizenry who fight back against a government that represses their rights or uses violence to press their political agenda. It was the Syrian government that acted violently first. As Iran did following their elections.

    Human beings must be free to choose their leaders. Leaders must be humble enough to give up command when the majority of the population call for change. Assad should have helped usher in a new age for Syria and for her people by working with the people to make positive change. But like otehr tyrants he elected violence and repression. In my mind that entitles the people to fight against his rule.

    To me it sounds like you are trying to divert attention from the heart of the issue. And that is the repressive violent actions of the Syrian state against her own citizens. An unforgivable act in my opinion and one that will likely mean the end of Assad's rule no matter how this resolves itself. You should prepare yourself for that inevitability.

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    tkoind2

    I do wish that we could get the world 's people to define leadership as someone we allow to lead us with the blessing of our votes. They should be subject to a vote. And subject to recall if they fail us and the majority of people feel so and demand a recall vote. The future world does not need "dear leaders", kings, queens, dictators or military generalisimo presidents.

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    Tamarama

    It seems that these lebanese families are almost suggesting that the men were abducted and taken inside Syria and executed and made to appear that they are foreign fighters. Tripoli is coastal and quite far from the border.

    If that is true, it's a very disturbing turn from a seriously unhinged regime.

    tkoind2

    Every day you keep posting accusations about Jihadis and foreign soldiers in Syria, but you post no proof what so ever.

    That is something he has consistently avoided for months. He will always call your sources 'unreliable' or 'not credible', regardless of who they are, or what they are, but can offer no proof of his claims whatsoever. He ignores any request to do so. It's kind of fascinating to watch.

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    Madverts

    "There's nothing free about France imposing a leader on the Syrian people."

    Ah, the Never Submit narrative is changing again.....

    I want you to know I'm your friend on Facebook now, perhaps the others could give you a boost too:

    http://www.facebook.com/tinfoil.hatconsortium

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    Tamarama

    There's nothing free about France imposing a leader on the Syrian people.

    Seems strange that you would take exception to that whilst completely overlooking the fact that the Assad family has ruled Syria by force for 30 odd years? Why the double standard, pray tell?

    Quite the far fetched theory. Occam's razor dictates that these ridiculous conspiracy theories that Assad deviously controls and plans everything and that every news event that is the favor of the Syrian viewpoint is actually staged personally by Assad, is ludicrous.

    Take it up with AP, pal. I'm just interpreting what is clearly implied in the report. The same report you read and are also commenting on. It's all there. And hardly far fetched at all. Assad is killing Syrians. He may want the world to think he is only fighting and killing foreigners. So, go get some, kill them, and show them to the world. His regime has killed Lebanese before.

    No more far fetched than your claim that NATO were funding Al Qaida a few months back. Or Blackwater troops. Or.....

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    nandakandamanda

    It's just as possible that these 17 were killed inside Lebanon by Alawite forces in Tripoli and then dumped inside Syria.

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    Tamarama

    It's just as possible that these 17 were killed inside Lebanon by Alawite forces in Tripoli and then dumped inside Syria.

    Absolutely.

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    SuperLib

    Al Queda members need a payment of $100 a day to fight? That's surprising.

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    Tamarama

    NeverSubmit

    Jeez, you've made a real mess of this one.

    Firstly,

    It's just as possible that these 17 were killed inside Lebanon by Alawite forces in Tripoli and then dumped inside Syria.

    You've quoted nandakandamanda here, not me. A bad start.

    So what was Mr. Jihad (and yes, that's his real name) doing in Syria?

    Jihad is the dead man's older brother. He was not in Syria. The name Jihad, incidentally, does not mean war when used for baby names. Struggle, strive is closer to it's intended meaning.

    What you read;

    Especially since it was admitted that he's a fundamentalist Muslim and he hated the non-Islamic Syrian government.

    What is actually written;

    They said their brothers were not members of any political or Islamic group but were observant Muslims. two men sympathized with the rebellion, but they were not fighters.

    What's that? Three? Let's keep going;

    Apparently, Mr. Jihad from Lebanon had a problem with that and wanted to go kill some Christians and non-Sunni Muslims.

    Again, Mr Jihad Haj-Deeb is in Lebanon, but you have him confused for his little brother and your statement above is just your interpretation, with no facts to support it. Unless you have something to share?

    This is particularly sloppy, even by your standards.

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