Syrian rebels push war into capital Damascus

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NeverSubmitJul. 17, 2012 - 09:48AM JST

Civilian lives are being put at risk because of these reckless and maurading foreign rebels.

What was once a relatively peaceful residential neighborhood is now a war zone thanks to them.

Blood is on the hands of those who supplied bullets, machine guns and bombs to these criminal mercenary groups.
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Ben JackJul. 17, 2012 - 10:11AM JST

foreign rebels

I know this is the first time someone has ever asked you, but how do you know these rebels/militants are foreign? I would be very interested in hearing what you base your opinion on.
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Goldman SucksJul. 17, 2012 - 11:06AM JST

It is clear that they are financed, armed, trained, and given intelligence by other nations. And its clear they are pursuing foreign interests and they have no care whatsoever about the well-being of the Syrian people.

Whether there are or aren't foreigners actually doing the shooting in Syria is quite irrelevant; but I do suspect there are (many have made such claims).
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Ben JackJul. 17, 2012 - 11:39AM JST

It is clear that they are financed, armed, trained, and given intelligence by other nations.

So are groups like Hamas and Hezbollah. Do you think they are foreign? Just because a group has outside support does not mean they are not home-grown. If you think they are not and you can prove your case, please do so.

Whether there are or aren't foreigners actually doing the shooting in Syria is quite irrelevant;

Not to the people claiming they are foreign, it isn't. Never Submit and Chuck have been going on and on about how they are all foreign or 80% percent of them are foreign. I merely asked them to back this up.

but I do suspect there are (many have made such claims).

Cool. Prove it, please, Ciao.
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NeverSubmitJul. 17, 2012 - 03:38PM JST

Ben,

There are endless reports on those, here's one from a major UK newspaper

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/03/07/syria-uprising-mossad-blackwater-and-cia-led-operations-in-homsn1326121.html

The so-called uprising is in fact a CIA-Blackwater operation. And they sneak in via Turkey. This is a foreign invasion. No wonder the Syrian people hate the marauding rebel gangs.
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SuperLibJul. 17, 2012 - 05:16PM JST

Can you imagine if Obama suddenly started hitting your house with artillery? Wouldn't you be angry? These citizens have the right to defend themselves when the government is trying to kill them for no reason. We all would.
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NeverSubmitJul. 17, 2012 - 06:02PM JST

Superlib: I wouldn't be angry at Obama, I'd be angry at the foreign mercenary rebel who decided to use my house as a staging zone for sniper attacks.

The Syrians themselves support their own army and police and they despise the foreigners who are trying to overrun their country.

The neighborhood mentioned above was total fine and peaceful until the rebels marched in with grenades and rifles and started shooting up a storm.

Had the rebels not entered that neighborhood it would have remained calm and peaceful.
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Ben JackJul. 17, 2012 - 06:02PM JST

There are endless reports on those, here's one from a major UK newspaper

Geez, the link still does not work. Did it ever work? It is not a report from a UK newspaper. It is gossip from Hezbollah. Did you even read the article you are linking? Hezbollah blames Mossad and the CIA when the hummus tastes off. I pointed this out to you. Madverts pointed it out to you. You ignore this and continue to plug along seeming to be claiming this was 'discovered' by a UK newpaper.

The so-called uprising is in fact a CIA-Blackwater operation.

A continuously broken link (that is being repeated by conspiracy sites) quoting Hezbollah does not equal a fact on the ground. Not at all.
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CletusJul. 17, 2012 - 06:06PM JST

Ben jack,

Funny you say quoting Hezbollah does not equal fact. You also say yours and Madverts ( hmm) opinions are more reliable. OK!!!
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MadvertsJul. 17, 2012 - 06:08PM JST

"There are endless reports on those, here's one from a major UK newspaper"

Heh, still peddling the same fairy tale published several months ago written by a mouthpiece of Hezbollah I see.
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Ben JackJul. 17, 2012 - 06:25PM JST

Funny you say quoting Hezbollah does not equal fact.

Hezbollah blames pretty much everything on the CIA/the US/Mossad/Israel. You and Never Submit are free to believe them if you want to. I do not.

You also say yours and Madverts ( hmm) opinions are more reliable. OK!!!

Ummm, my opinion is more reliable? Not really sure what that is supposed to mean. An opinion is just that, an opinion. However, when I stated what I believe to be a fact, I certainly try to be reliable in backing it up. Anway, what I have been saying is that if you are going to claim Blackwater (and now evidently Mossad and the CIA), etc are involved. You need to back it up when you keep repeating it endlessly. Quoting a Hezbollah spoken, who seems to be merely describing their opinion is not backing up this supposition in my opinion. You are free to be satisfied with this if you want. By the way, are you saying you agree Mossad/CIA are involved? What is your basis for saying this? If you are not, what exactly are you saying?

The 'report' from Hezbollah's "news" agency also claims "around 700 Arab and Western gunmen had surrendered in Baba Amr" This report came out 10 days ago. Have you heard anything about this anywhere? In March, Never Submit claim hundreds of French soldiers were in Syria and that a bunch had been arrested. RT reported that one and there has been nothing reported about it since. No follow up. What is your explanation, Cletus? If you are going to jump in, jump in with both feet. Let's have your explanation. Me, I am rather tired of people making claims as facts and not being able to actually back them up.
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Ben JackJul. 17, 2012 - 07:14PM JST

the foreigners who are trying to overrun their country.

The proof of the existence of these foreigners is what again?
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NeverSubmitJul. 17, 2012 - 11:15PM JST

Ben what proof do you have that the invading rebel army are in fact comprised of Syrians themselves.
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SerranoJul. 17, 2012 - 11:28PM JST

Baby Assad doesn't need this aggravation.
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SuperLibJul. 18, 2012 - 12:33AM JST

NeverSubmit: The Syrians themselves support their own army and police and they despise the foreigners who are trying to overrun their country. The neighborhood mentioned above was total fine and peaceful until the rebels marched in with grenades and rifles and started shooting up a storm.

The foreigners who are entering into the country do so with the same intentions as the other Syrians....the right to protest peacefully. They are met with artillery from Assad. How would you feel if you voiced your opinion and your own army killed your family because you simply wanted to be heard? Assad has the blood of over 20,000 peaceful men, women, and children on his hands.

Keep posting your links from a "major British newspaper." Obviously you feel quite comfortable getting in bed with big media.
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NeverSubmitJul. 18, 2012 - 06:11AM JST
I don't understand the connection between Lizards controlling the Earth and Syria.

The Syrian people aren't afraid of their own police. Most of the mayhem has been caused by rebel actions.

The neighborhood in question in the article wasn't involved in any kind of protest. Here's the rebel strategy.
1. Rebels move into a quiet neighborhood or village
2. Rebels start harassing citizens, looting stores and even raping women (as documented by Human Rights Watch).
3. Citizens call in the police.
4. Police realize the situation is way to serious for them as the rebels are heavily armed.
5. The police then call in the military.
6. The rebels take cover inside the homes of the residents.
7. Rebels instigate a firefight with the Syrian military from the residents homes.
8. Rebels intentionally cause as much collateral damage as possible.
9. Rebels eventually begin losing and then flee back into Turkey.
10. The London-based SOHR calls all newspapers and "reports" the 100 or so people have been slaughtered by the Military while the rebels bravely fought to save the town.
11. Newspapers print "Activists Report 100 dead in so and so area" "Hillary blames the Syrian government".
Step number 12 is that gullible people read those news reports and then become confident that they know the truth because they read it in the papers.

Try talking to the Syrians themselves, they'll tell you exactly what's going on. And it's a very different story then is presented in the AP or Reuters.
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Ben JackJul. 18, 2012 - 08:24AM JST

The Syrian people aren't afraid of their own police.

How do you know this?

Try talking to the Syrians themselves, they'll tell you exactly what's going on.

?? You have done this?

Never Submit, I do not doubt at all there are Syrians who support the Assad government. I have never seen anyone here claim otherwise. However, you seem to be claiming inside knowledge about what is going on in Syria. How did you obtain this information? Also, you still have a question pending regarding your claim that the militants are foreigners. Could you get back to me on that? Thanks.
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Ben JackJul. 18, 2012 - 08:28AM JST

Ben what proof do you have that the invading rebel army are in fact comprised of Syrians themselves.

They escaped from Syria and live in refugee camps with the tens of thousands of other Syrians. They say they are Syrian. They are generally accepted as Syrian. Even Russia Today, which you seem to like, calls this conflict a 'civil war' acknowledging that this is a war between Syrians. If you are going to claim something different from what is established as a fact, which is your free right to do, you need to back up your claim or risk having your claim dismissed.

So, what is your evidence that the militants are foreign?
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lostrune2Jul. 18, 2012 - 01:15PM JST

The rebels are trying to do a couple things:

1) Divert resources of the Syrian military away from pounding other towns in Syria because they have to protect their capital no matter what.

2) Daring Assad to fire heavy artillery from tanks and airships into his own capital city, which apparently Assad is obliging, thus destroying his own city.

But have ya guys watched Syrian state TV reporters interviewing people in the Damascus streets pretending that there's nothing going on in the city, all the while there's gunfire and explosions in the background? Hahaha, where's former Iraqi Foreign Minister Saeed when they need him!
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MadvertsJul. 18, 2012 - 03:05PM JST

"Hahaha, where's former Iraqi Foreign Minister Saeed when they need him!"

He's posting on this very thread it would seem.