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Taliban video claims to be of captured US soldier

World Dec. 25, 2009 - 03:25PM JST ( 22 )

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numbskullDec. 25, 2009 - 05:00PM JST

U.S. military officials have searched for Bergdahl,

Which is like saying such and such a Daimyo buit such and such a castle. Um, no, they did not lift a finger. What they did was get other people to do the work. Other soldiers searched for Bergdahl, the end.

A caption below the man speaking says “War prisoner: Bowe Robert Bergdahl.”

Too bad the U.S. decided to part ways with conventions concerning POW's. Hard to say what the Taliban thinks about that. Let's just hope they hold to the tradition of true Muslims and treat captives well.
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SuperLibDec. 25, 2009 - 05:08PM JST

Hard to say what the Taliban thinks about that.

Well I think we know how they felt the day before 9/11.
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MadvertsDec. 25, 2009 - 07:11PM JST

"Hard to say what the Taliban thinks about that."

From what I've seen, they generally think they'll use the capture to piss off the US, make ridiculous demands that nobody would consider ceding and then proceed to decapitate the poor individual live on the internet.

I know who's custody I'd rather be in!
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numbskullDec. 25, 2009 - 08:52PM JST

SuperLib: Well I think we know how they felt the day before 9/11.

So you assume the Taliban knew about 9/11 in advance? And they just said to al Quaida, "Hey, man, that's cool....we just got control of this dusty hole...go ahead and bring stealth bombers and predator drones down on our heads...good times man! Have another toke?"
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numbskullDec. 25, 2009 - 08:53PM JST

Madverts: From what I've seen, they generally think they'll use the capture to piss off the US, make ridiculous demands that nobody would consider ceding and then proceed to decapitate the poor individual live on the internet.

I may have missed something, and I mean that sincerely. Has there been such a Taliban execution? I heard of the al-Quaida ones, but not Taliban. Please bring me up to speed.
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WilliBDec. 25, 2009 - 10:37PM JST

numbskull:

" I may have missed something, and I mean that sincerely. Has there been such a Taliban execution? I heard of the al-Quaida ones, but not Taliban. "

Where do you imagine a difference? Both organizations advocate strict Shariah, and beheading is a Sharia prescribed practise. The Koran and Haddiths are full of commands for beheading. Where have you been?
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Pump24Dec. 25, 2009 - 10:44PM JST

numbskull, I recall it being the Taliban who executed that Korean man several months ago, while holding 22 others hostage. They will execute...and have.
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fondofjDec. 26, 2009 - 01:27AM JST

Taliban and Al-kaidas are the creation of the U.S. we know very well. Now become Frankenstein to the U.S. and the rest of the world.
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nandakandamandaDec. 26, 2009 - 01:28AM JST

I have to agree that the Taliban in Afghanistan have used different methods from the terorists/murderers in Iraq. They shot some of those Koreans, for example. In Pakistan, however, the Taliban have chopped off heads and strung up headless bodies in the Swat Valley, albeit not of prisoners of war.
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ptolemyDec. 26, 2009 - 01:45AM JST

Well allow me to give my support to their family. Allow me to say I support his mission.
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SuperLibDec. 26, 2009 - 03:48AM JST

numbskull: I may have missed something, and I mean that sincerely. Has there been such a Taliban execution? I heard of the al-Quaida ones, but not Taliban. Please bring me up to speed.

Where would you like to begin? The beheading of schoolgirls? Targeting mosques and innocent civilians? Hijacking airplanes? Ethnic cleansing? Public amputations and executions? Did you really think they were decent people and then the US arrived and turned them into something else because of some water and towels in Cuba?
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numbskullDec. 26, 2009 - 08:16AM JST

SuperLib: Did you really think they were decent people and then the US arrived and turned them into something else because of some water and towels in Cuba?

Um...could please give me a break? I just asked a simple question about similar executions. What they do with their own is not the concern here. What they do with criminals or even innocent civilians is not the concern either. I was hoping for something specific, and you guys have completely failed to do that. If you guys don't know of a specific similar example, you might just own up to the fact instead of treating me like the messenger that brought bad news.
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numbskullDec. 26, 2009 - 08:38AM JST

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007SouthKoreanhostagecrisisinAfghanistan

Two South Korean men were executed, and while the executions cannot be justified, there were some chances to save their lives. One was for South Korea to not get involved in Afghanistan. Next was for stupid people to STAY OUT of a warzone. Next was for the Afghan government to release 23 militants. They refused because of past criticism for such action. Next a deal to pay for the right to talk to the hostages was refused by S.K. No doubt that hastened the executions before other negotiations could happen.

In the end, S.K. paid a ransom and the remaining 21 hostages were released.

The Taliban started with ridiculous demands but quickly scaled down to the 23 militants deal and finally settled for a ransom. These are brutal crazy people we are dealing with here, but they still are not al-Quaida.

There are lessons to be learned there to save the life of this soldier. Remember, Afghanistan is there country and we have no solid grounds to be in Afghanistan 8 years after 9/11. It was al-Quaida that attacked us, not Afghanistan and not the Taliban. The refusal of people to accept those things will make those people also, but not equally, responsible if he is exectuted. And it will be for what? Pride?
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SuperLibDec. 26, 2009 - 09:14AM JST

Fair enough, but you did make this point overall:

"Too bad the U.S. decided to part ways with conventions concerning POW's. Hard to say what the Taliban thinks about that. Let's just hope they hold to the tradition of true Muslims and treat captives well."

We're talking about people who have a history of planting IEDs outside of schools for girls. I find it hard to believe they're going to be making decisions based off of Gitmo or the tradition of Muslim hospitality. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. We'll wait and see.
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Pump24Dec. 26, 2009 - 12:59PM JST

numbskull, your original question was had there been any Taliban executions. Without names of the dead, you were given plenty of proof that yes, Taliban executes. Yet all you do is reply with more rhetoric and ignorant babbling. You have been given proper data. Your are as your postname reads...
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numbskullDec. 26, 2009 - 01:22PM JST

Pump24: your original question was had there been any Taliban executions.

Wrong. It seems you know how to read, but not completely. My original question was if there had been an execution such as Madverts described. Here is what he described:

make ridiculous demands that nobody would consider ceding and then proceed to decapitate the poor individual live on the internet.

I still know of no such case. In the South Korean hostage case, ridiculous demands WERE made initially, but they were followed by demands that South Korea wanted to cede but could not get cooperation from Kharzai on, and those were followed by demands that South Korea did cede. And no live internet execution either.

Details my friend. They count.