Targeted deaths curb al-Qaida's expansion
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isthistheend
They can dish it out but they can't take it? Thank Allah!
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bushlover
Let's hope they all go straight to hell and get what's coming to em. A bullet in the head.
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SuperLib
America's war, eh?
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4thEstateDotCom
Something to think about if you are one of those people who whimper about "Islamophobia" and scoff at the term "the long war".
Pakistan exists because Great Britain and India allowed it to come into being.
And fifty yeas later these malignant ingrates are engaged in an "insurgency" against both Britain and India.
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dontpanic
4thEstateDotCom - "Pakistan exists because Great Britain and India allowed it to come into being"
In returning independance to India the Mulsims required their own state too. What would you have done, wiped them all out?
SuperLib - "America's war, eh?"
I think Britains demonstrated well enough that the US isnt the only nation prepared to get involved.
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timorborder
This ain't just America's war, I have some old Australian army mates who have been posted to Afghanistan for up to 5 years (straight). One chap in particular has apparently gone native and all.
The war against radical Islam is something that everybody should be concerned with. Although it is (mainly) American boys and girls crunching at the hard yards, to call it America's war undercuts the fact that a great many nations are involved.
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dontpanic
timorborder - "Although it is (mainly) American boys and girls crunching at the hard yards, to call it America's war undercuts the fact that a great many nations are involved"
I applaud your statement and while I dont want to get into a body count competition, the ratio is roughly 60% US/40% other nations. Agreed the US is shouldering the heaviest burden but theres no shortage of getting stuck in by anyone. Doing a togh job with little or no thanks, theyre all heroes in my book.
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SuperLib
I was talking more about the public opinion polls from the UK, not the government's action. Mostly what I've been hearing is that the war is seen as the UK getting dragged into "America's War" and a lot of people want out, as if they can just check out of the region and terrorism will simply go away. A lot of Europeans don't really see a connection between Afghanistan and the safety of the streets in their own countries. Mostly I think it's because they couldn't stomach supporting any war that Bush was involved in whether it was to their benefit or not.
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donkusai
Actually, most Pakistanis are as sick of the radicals as we are. Unfortunately, where they live, to speak up really is to put your life on the line. The environment that allowed these radicals to flourish is unfortunately manifesting in places like Malaysia now, where Islam specific laws are removing people's rights over lifestyle choices. These sorts of laws mean that, if you are born into an Islamic family, you can be tried under religious law regardless of whether you choose to believe in Allah or not.
What is happening in Indonesia is far more heartening. After the most recent hotel bombings, groups of Indonesians lead protests against the bombings and there was widespread condemnation. Despite Indonesia being the largest Islamic country in the world, they have embraced democracy after years of virtual dictatorship and are doing what they can to weaken the fundamentalists there. They've worked hard to track down Noordin Muhammed Top and this week they finally got him, after a number of very near misses. Well done to the Indonesian forces.
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Osakadaz
The only one who can change Pakistan for the better is Imran Khan.
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dontpanic
SuperLib - "I was talking more about the public opinion polls from the UK"
Funny that, the last opinion poll I saw in the Washington Post in August indicated 51% of US citizens didnt believe the war is worth fighting. Pretty close to the 53% of UK citizens as reported in the Times last week.
The UK joined the US in its campaign against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban all those years ago for the right reasons. Unfortunately Mr Bush et al lost focus and got sidetracked. Its hardly surprising support has dwindled.
I can honestly say I've never heard anyone say the UK was dragged into America's war. Mr Blair willingly committed UK troops just one month following the 9/11 attacks on the US. I've met a lot of Americans whining on about being the worlds policeman who've forgotten that.
As for Europeans not seeing a connection between Afghanistan and the safety of their streets, I think they did, hence the support the US has received. I believe most now think the misguided Iraq affair has caused so much resentment in their home grown Muslim communities now creating support for the Taliban and insurgents in Pakistan is now the biggest threat.
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Molenir
What I find amusing about this story, is that when Israel does it, they receive widespread condemnation, but if American or England do it, then its somehow ok. Don't misunderstand me here. I think going after those who lead the violence is what should always be done, whether its in Gaza, or Somalia. If the rats know that by sticking their heads up they make themselves and possibly their families targets, they're much less likely to try to lead these terrorist groups. Just kind of amusing the hypocrisy involved.
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