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zurcronium
No comments here from the NRA types.
She is just one of 15,000 that are killed by handguns in the US every year. Killed so that little boys can play with their bang bang toys. 15,000 a year. Five times 9-11 deaths every year.
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WilliB
Leave it to the leftist commentator to use it as a platform for political polemics.
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zurcronium
Hah, thats a good one WilliB. Unfortunately the US airwaves are filled with rightist commentators every day and night who basically aid and abet terrorism like we saw in Tucson last weekend.
I am only commenting on the result of tea party politics and the NRA stranglehold on law makers in Arizona and elsewhere. 15,000 deaths a year by guns. 3000 of them kids.
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smithinjapan
Maybe those who want to expand the amount of guns and range of ammo that can be used can step up in front of the girls coffin and talk about how much good guns bring to daily life, the lives of families as a whole, the nation, and the world. They can talk about how this little girl is a symbol of the freedom Americans have to exercise their right to bear arms, and how she is an undying flame for those who wish to own weapons, and how any laws against gun control should be instantly shot down.
Poor little soul...
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Madverts
"Leave it to the leftist commentator to use it as a platform for political polemics"
Un-like the right-wing idiot using gun-sights to identify political opponents (one of the "marks" taking a head shot in this spree-killing) and then painting itself to be some sort of victim by media?
The scrzaming right-wing nuts have far more to answer for, even if the nuts on the radical left are a pain in the ass.
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sailwind
You called her a right-wing idiot...shows your "civility" and contribution towards your "tolerance" for those who disagree with your opinion.
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yabits
Saint Peter:
"Judge Roll, this seems like the perfect opportunity for you to explain to this child why you thought background checks for handgun purchases was such a terrible idea."
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Madverts
Every time she opens her mouth my point of her being an idiot is proven. The Cross-hair campaign just being the latest in a long line of stupidity. I'll add it to the list of things you don't want to hear about!
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WhiteHawk
I've been commenting on this event all along. Did you not see my comments that Loughner wouldn't have been able to legally buy a gun had the sheriff not talked his previous stalking victims out of pressing charges? All it takes is one restraining order or one instance of being arrested for threatening violence and that person cannot legally buy a gun.
And you know what? The NRA has no problem with that. The laws were already in place. They just weren't enforced. Ironically, this time it was laws about threatening violence that weren't enforced.
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SolidariTea
A pathetic mere 15 percent of the US public now believe that 'over-heated rhetoric' somehow caused Jared Loughner to flip out and shoot a politician he met 3 years ago (before Palin was even on the national scene).
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Madverts
We've seen what the over-heated rhetoric has done to the nuts on JT's'extreme right over the years, so who knows what effect it could have on one like Loughner who's just notched up to the next level.
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yabits
And anyone who is intelligent would agree that violent rhetoric contributes to a climate in which a mentally-deranged person might respond to.
Is it a major cause? No. But does it add straw to the camel's load? There is no question that it does. Rush Limbaugh had a billboard in Tucson in which he praised himself as a "straight shooter," and was festooned with bullet holes. Now, why would his people take that sign down a few days after the tragedy?
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Sarge
What right does Jared Loughner have to live?
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yabits
The same right that his victims had. Only Loughner's mind is damaged and deranged. (What is the excuse of those calling for his life?)
The ones who are most complicit in this tragedy are the ones who make it possible for the Loughners in our society to obtain the means to mete out deadly force on the scale he did.
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Zenny11
I am always surprised how many people think just because you commit a crime you automatically also lose all your rights and priviledges as a citizen, human, etc.
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WilliB
yabits:
Well, in that case you can hold Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews, Ed Schulz, and for that matter Obama (remember his "bring guns to a fight" and "punish our opponents" comments) responsible for the murder.
I am waiting for you to do so.
To their credit, conservative talking heads have not gone there.
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WhiteHawk
Wow, you're almost agreeing with me. Except you think the NRA is complicit, and I say it's the sheriff who didn't do his job properly.
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yabits
No one yet has posted an example of anything any of them has said which fosters a climate of violence. The fact is this: the more that the far right wing keeps bringing up phony examples to try to rationalize their own consistent display of violent rhetoric the more they show their true colors.
Yes. The guns were conditional IF the opponents brought knives. Some among the Republicans are the FIRST and ONLY ones to actually propose bringing guns into the chamber of the House floor. Perhaps the far right-wingers will rationalize this by pretending that all the Democrats have brought knives.
To their credit, not even in their wildest imaginations could the Democrats suggest something so utterly crazy.
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yabits
There has to be a much greater firewall that stands between the mentally and violently crazy getting guns than the local sheriff.
The fact that some far right-wingers would absolve the NRA from any complicity shows how far they have strayed from rational thinking ability.
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yabits
Several Republicans in Arizona have felt compelled to resign their positions in the wake of this tragedy, citing violent threats from some supporters of the Tea Party as their reason.
The evangelical Republican leader (DeMoss) of the Civility Project has disbanded it, citing the threats and vile invective he has received from the far right wing as the reason. The kinds of people fed and nurtured daily by Rush, Beck and Savage Nation.
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Madverts
"Because there was no law requiring her to do so."
And plenty of sherrif's take time to soert out local problems with wayward kids. It's called a local communtiy.
99.698758% don't turn out to be foaming at the mouth spree-killers.
The 0.0115788% is your earlier "argument", that is nothing more than 20/20 hindsdight motivated by the ridiculous partisan tantrums pushing US politics into new realms of stupidity.
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WhiteHawk
Like what, exactly?
Exactly what did the NRA do to put a gun in Loughner's hands? No more of your vague "promoting a gun culture" nonsense, tell me exactly how the NRA is complicit in this.
The NRA, in fact, supported the legislation which keeps people who have violent records and restraining orders against them from buying guns. Why can't you recognize that?
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yabits
Like what, exactly?
The answer to this is better suited to the thread on gun laws. I will post my response there.
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WhiteHawk
I'm looking forward to it.
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