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Turkey refuses U.S. mediation in crisis with Israel

World Sep. 18, 2011 - 05:02AM JST ( 12 )

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Lieberman2012Sep. 18, 2011 - 10:41AM JST

Turkey PM Erdogan is making his bid to challenge the nutjob Ahcmadinjihad in Iran for leader of the faithful, and the job calls for an attack on Israel.Isn't going to be pretty
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just-a-guySep. 18, 2011 - 12:22PM JST

Love to see an 'infighting' in western alliance...funny!
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SuperLibSep. 18, 2011 - 01:42PM JST

Relations plummeted still further when Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan threatened to send warships to escort any Turkish vessels trying to reach Hamas-ruled Gaza.

So yet another Israeli neighbor is going to intentionally create hostilities with Israel, which they will then no doubt blame Israel for.

Turkey's angle is puzzling. At this point the flotilla is starting to look like a manufactured crisis. They knew Israel would board like they've done in the past, and the Turks knew there would people on the ship who would attack. They waited for the UN report to come out which blames everyone, and they somehow use that as justification to ramp up the rhetoric. Seems like they were going to say what they were going to say regardless of the report.

It's difficult to believe Turkey just woke up one day and decided support Hamas and destroy their relations with Israel in the process. They have a history of cooperating with each other.
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MadvertsSep. 18, 2011 - 04:16PM JST

Boarding an Turkish flagged shipped in international waters and killing a load of people is what I'd call "intentionally creating hostilities". It's tantamount to an act of war.

I'm hardly pro-pal but Israel keep further isolating themselves with such stupidity.
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smithinjapanSep. 18, 2011 - 06:06PM JST

SuperLib: "So yet another Israeli neighbor is going to intentionally create hostilities with Israel, which they will then no doubt blame Israel for."

So you're saying they 'accidentally' boarded the Turkish ship and killed a bunch of people and that they are not to blame for it?

Anyway, Turkey is in the right here.... who needs a nation that gives Israel carte blanche to test chemical weapons on innocents and what not to 'mediate' (ie. beg them not to isolate a nation that deserves isolation)?
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MadvertsSep. 18, 2011 - 07:34PM JST

Turkey isn't right at all in my opinion. They've escalated an already tight situation. I agree with Super's analasis that the Turks are throwing a spanner into the works of years of co-operation with the Jewish state.

This all started with that TV interview where an Israeli politician idiot who's name escapes me insisted that his Turkish counterpart be seated lower than himself with the intent of appearing superior and peed on Turk pride. And we all know how the Johnnies in the middle east react to their pride being dissed.

Both parties are acting in a manner which defies intelligence and I side with neither. Poor governance in Turkey and Israel is the root of the cancer.

And as to the allegations of weapons testing, I note that smith clearly isn't aware the Pals use Israeli citizens to test homemade rockets, along with whatever the Iranian's send them to fight their proxy war...
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VirtuosoSep. 18, 2011 - 09:02PM JST

When push comes to shove, let's hope Turkey is chicken.
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Christina O'NeillSep. 18, 2011 - 10:34PM JST

International waters as far as i know according to maritime law is beyond Israels territorial waters, so was the boarding and attack on the Turkish ship an act of piracy? I hope this dispute can be resolved by peacefull means and that a European mediator may be acceptable
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herefornowSep. 18, 2011 - 11:52PM JST

Good on Turkey. Isreal has acted as an un-challenged bully for way too long. And the U.S., including Obama, has just watched it happen due to the strong Jewish vote. The idea of the U.S. "mediating" this is preposterous. For all his rhetoric Obama has been a miserable failure with Mideast foreign policy.
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SuperLibSep. 19, 2011 - 01:25AM JST

smithinjapan: So you're saying they 'accidentally' boarded the Turkish ship and killed a bunch of people and that they are not to blame for it?

No they intentionally boarded a ship that made it very clear their only stop would be to Gaza. And it appears that the Turks knew that some of those people on board were more than likely to create hostilities. That's why the situation was different from all of the other flotillas where no one was harmed. To that end it seems that the Turks intentionally created the situation and on top of that they ignored the UN report. It just doesn't add up considering they had good relations with Israel long after the blockade started.

who needs a nation that gives Israel carte blanche to test chemical weapons on innocents

More and more your posts are leaving the specific topic at hand when Israel is involved, and instead we have to sift through cut and paste mental masturbation. You're turning into one of "those guys."
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YuriOtaniSep. 19, 2011 - 02:43AM JST

What the world does not need is another war.
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Lieberman2012Sep. 19, 2011 - 06:54PM JST

Israel has discovered massive reserves of natural gas off its shores.

Erdogan wants it for Turkey. Erdogan wants war.

And again the Palistiners get used and abused by their fellow Muslims.