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That will be a huge success, I am sure.

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The UN?? May god/s help them! Here we go again with a bunch of lame sitting ducks ready for Al Qaeda etc..to pick them off one by one?? No good, me thinks.

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Brahimi told reporters, following a closed-door meeting, that he also had held talks earlier with opposition groups inside and outside the country and received "promises" but not a "commitment" from them to honor the cease-fire.

A 3,000 strong UN force could do much to keep the peace, but the rebels have to commit to the cease fire.

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Agreed, the onus is on the rebels to honor the ceasefire and that includes all their Al-Qaeda offshoots and various Islamic militant wings.

Also to be fair, the peacekeeping force should include countries that oppose the Islamic insurgency like Russia, China or India. Not troops from Qatar, Turkey or Saudi Arabia that have been fueling the violence.

The ceasefire should also apply to terror attacks and the FSA must be warned that bombings against civilians in Damascus are totally unacceptable and would constitute a breach of the ceasefire.

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"Also to be fair, the peacekeeping force should include countries that oppose the Islamic insurgency like Russia, China or India."

You mean the countries that support Assad using whatever military means he has left to support their economic interests in Syria?

I know your old nemesis reality keeps rearing its' annoying head, but the only reason there are Islamic militants in growing numbers is because of Assad's desperation to cling to power.

Your strange narrative has taken a pretty astounding about face recently. May I ask if you are prepared to face up to your claims of the conflict being Blackwater/CIA/UN (was it really all three at the same time?) insurgency sponsored by NATO being up there with theories such as "Wingdings contains hidden Masonic messages" or "Michael and LaToya Jackson are the same person"?

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"Wingdings contains hidden Masonic messages" or "Michael and LaToya Jackson are the same person"?

I'm sorry Madverts, I don't get it.

What exactly are you referring to?

and what is a Wingding?

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"I'm sorry Madverts, I don't get it"

I copied them from a list of the worlds most crazy conspiracy theories, just to make you feel at home. In fact, I've petitioned the webmaster to have some of your far superior material included on the list.

However,

"What exactly are you referring to?"

The same question I have been asking you that you have been dodging ever since your narrative took a swerve.

What happened to your accusations of this conflict being engineered and incited by Blackwater/CIA/UN insurgency sponsored by NATO?

It looks to me that after two years of you parroting these long debunked claims that you're breathing a sigh of relief the rebellion against dictatorial rule is being hijacked by Islamic nutters, giving your conspiratorial world new amo.

Frankly, you're position has changed so much recently with your amnesia so apparent, I'm actually starting to wonder if you're Mitt Romney.

:)

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NeverSubmit

You know, the whole time through this saga you have maintained this position that absolutely refuses to acknowledge that Assad bares any responsibility whatsoever for what is happening in Syria. In fact, you have attempted at times to portray him as a forward thinking, benevolent leader of his people who has augered in considerable reform despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

You have chosen to latch onto curiosities in the story such as the Damascus blogger and distort and exaggerate their importance, you have made blatantly false statements that have been easily refuted, and as the rebels have poured into Syria, as they were always going to do, you have found your agenda and have been laying the entire responsibility for the Syrian conflict at their feet. You call them Jihadists, Islamists and use them to further deflect any responsibility from the regime.

Now, again, you say the onus is only on the Rebels.

Does Assad have ANY responsibilities here, NeverSubmit? Is he responsible IN ANY WAY for the Syrian crisis?

Had you been to Syria, you would never write the things you do. But only if you had been there, mind.

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TamaramaOct. 23, 2012 - 08:18PM JST Does Assad have ANY responsibilities here, NeverSubmit?

I am not NeverSubmit, but I can tell that yes he does. He should be dealt with straight after the Islamist rebels are removed from the region, and in a way of making forced elections. Similar to how it was done just this instant in Georgia with Saakashvili. I am more than sure that the Russians would cooperate with this way of doing things. Removing Assad is not at all difficult.

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"I am more than sure that the Russians would cooperate with this way of doing things. "

The Russians will do anything that keeps them their one and only foreign naval base. Fact is, they might as well approach the Africans - they take a lot of naval salvage down there - the decrepit Russian fleet would probably be worth more cut up and sold to the Chinese as scrap.

"I am not NeverSubmit, but I can tell that yes he does."

My man believes(d) this conflict is a US/UN/CIA/NATO conspiracy to overthrow Assad via Blackwater mercenaries and a small amount of French troops.

Dang, I need a tin-foil hat for just typing what he thinks.

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Whatever are Russian motives in Syria, they are doing things in a right way. They also do things in a right way in Afghanistan by helping NATO forces (and unlike NATO, when the Russians were there), and also did the right thing by protecting North Ossetians from mad Saakashvili, and by building a direct gas pipe to Germany. They are doing many right things that are in European interests, yet the anti-Russian sentiment of many stupid politicians make them (politicians) do things that outright harm their own countries and their future. As the result, the Russians are about to send Europe to "hang itself" and turn to Asia. We were SO proud in our glory to defeat them, and almost convinced ourselves that it is They, who need us the most. Unbelievable.

By "he" I meant Assad, not NeverSubmit. But otherwise, the statement is correct, except the "conspiracy and Blackwater and the other such nonsense" part, that is. The conflict is an open attempt (voiced by France, UK and the US) to overthrow Assad. Because they seek help of extremists, whom they fight in Afghanistan, this mad attempt will create another disaster state, similar to those in Afghanistan, Irak and Libya. In my eyes, it is madness.

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*I meant South Ossetia, of course. Sorry.

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"Whatever are Russian motives in Syria, they are doing things in a right way."

Supporting a dictator brutally quelling a popular uprising against the family dynasty?

Get real.

"By "he" I meant Assad, not NeverSubmit."

I'd grasped that much.

"But otherwise, the statement is correct, except the "conspiracy and Blackwater and the other such nonsense" part, that is. "

It's no such other nonesense, it's the centre-piece of Neversubmit's whacked-out agenda.

This is the poster that repeatedly posted "there is no uprising amongst Syrians themselves", or that we should "sit back and enjoy the show" as the "residents of Alepoo cheered on their army".

Tinfoil hats are distributed for free here, if you desire it to be so.

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Supporting a dictator brutally quelling a popular uprising against the family dynasty? ---"there is no uprising amongst Syrians themselves"

I am real. Both these sentences are incorrect. There was an uprising. However, this uprising does not represent population of Syria. Not even the majority of a minority its its population. If the "rebels" will win, half of Syria's population will be forced to flee or be killed. It is not a "popular uprising against the family dynasty", but a militarized attempt to take power in a country by a group of Islamist militants. The "real Syrian rebels" are diluted 20 to 1 with the hired foreign militants, armed and financed by Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. And these "real rebels" will NOT have the power at the end. Thus, their motives are not any more a fight for freedom, and they should be dealt with similar to how they would be dealt with in ALL developed countries, where an armed attempt to overthrow a government is a highest criminal offense.

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Supporting a dictator brutally quelling a popular uprising against the family dynasty?

Interesting how every enemy of the West has a "dictator" as a leader.

Even more interesting is how that "dictactor" was actually respected by Western powers for 20 years because of his secular views.

Ever more interesting is how this insurgency started with thousands of well-armed, professional trained fighters magically materialized along Syrians border with Turkey.

Most interesting is how at that exact time when those fighters appeared along the Turkish border, the infamous Damascus blogger (who was fake and reporting from the UK, not Damascus) started dishing out daily reports of supposed atrocities in Damascus that the Western media gladly lapped up and dished out en masse to the public. These stories were published as truth for months and later when it was all found to be staged, no Western media outlet apologized nor retracted the faked stories about an uprising in Damascus.

Also of interest is the fact that the base in Qatar where the rebels were trained was built and set up prior to the Arab spring. Those bases in Qatar (there are more than one), is still in operation and their churning out a new batch of Islamist fighters to man the Islamist FSA every month. These bases have been widely reported on in the Western media and Qatar has never denied hosting them.

Since when is hosting a terrorist training camp acceptable?

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Fine, as long as no USA military are directly involved. It is time for the neighbors and Europe to accept their responsibility in this matter.

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Does anyone think that the UNivolved in Peace can help?

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NeverSubmit: Ever more interesting is how this insurgency started with thousands of well-armed, professional trained fighters

Were these the Blackwater gents or the French? What ever happened to them?

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Konsta

There was an uprising. However, this uprising does not represent population of Syria. Not even the majority of a minority its its population.

You are incorrect. The uprising was started by people within Syria at a grass roots level in keeping with similar protests across the Arab world regarding corrupt and despotic regimes. Initial protest were held in general to protest the brutal and undemocratic nature of the regime, and almost as soon as they started, they were violently put down by police and security forces. The protests broadened to include things like hunger strikes. And they were protests by Syrian citizens, not by Islamists or Al Qaeda - they wanted more freedom, the release of political prisoners and an end to curruption. Things started to heat up when soldiers refused to fire on unarmed protesters and started to defect. As the protest began to turn into armed conflict, the militants from the region saw an opportunity to get involved - this was completely inevitable. Their presence has now helped morph the conflict into something quite different - but at it's heart this conflict is a Syrian uprising against it's corrupt and repressive government.

NeverSubmit

I'd still like you to answer this question:

'Does Assad have ANY responsibilities here, NeverSubmit? Is he responsible IN ANY WAY for the Syrian crisis?'

Ever more interesting is how this insurgency started with thousands of well-armed, professional trained fighters magically materialized along Syrians border with Turkey.

False.

the infamous Damascus blogger (who was fake and reporting from the UK, not Damascus) started dishing out daily reports

You are a predictible as you are repetitive. As I have mentioned before, the Damascus blogger was a Scot, pretending to be a Syrian lesbian highlighting the lack of basic human rights in Syria. Please stop with it now.

Islamist FSA every month

Again, false.

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