U.N. suspends Syria monitoring as violence rages

World Jun. 17, 2012 - 07:00AM JST ( 8 )

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NeverSubmitJun. 17, 2012 - 11:07AM JST

increasingly well-armed insurgency

Pretty amazing that a supposedly ragtag group of fighters can maintain a 16 month war against a large modern army and somehow magically continue to increase their armaments and ammunition.

If these rebels are entirely homegrown and unsupported by any Western power how do they garnish all these sophisticated weapons?

The British-based Observatory, which monitors violence in Syria through a network of local sources,

Again, all the information we are getting is from one source and one source only, this strange London-based group that calls themselves the "Observatory for Human Rights". Nobody else can verify their claims.

It described Walid Ahmad al-Ayyesh as the “right-hand man of the leader of the Nusra front”, a Sunni Islamist group which claimed responsibility for the attacks, saying he had overseen rigging the vehicles with explosives.

Interesting bedfellows for US, UK and France.
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bass4funkJun. 17, 2012 - 01:57PM JST

You just spew constant rhetoric, you never come up with proof to back up what you claim to be facts, until you do, then the best we can assume is that you are just speculating as to what could possibly be taking place in Syria, that the so called insurgency is made up of foreign fighters. Show us definitive proof to back up what you say that Assad and his regime are NOT responsible and I will personally give you an extended apology.
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SuperLibJun. 17, 2012 - 03:54PM JST

NeverSubmit: If these rebels are entirely homegrown and unsupported by any Western power

Who here has said that? I believe the closest has been your own claim of the rebels being entirely foreign and working directly for foreign powers. Live by the absolutes, die by the absolutes.

Again, all the information we are getting is from one source

Hold on, let me go back to one of my previous posts and just cut and paste. I'll keep it handy and just keep pasting it in every time you try this angle.

"The articles have routinely given comments from the UN, whom you claimed were lying in their reports. You have also mentioned Human Rights Watch in the past as a source of information for your claims, and they have made reports about the brutality of the Syrian regime and pro-government forces."

There, that should make things easier for both of us. We'll just match pasted comments on the threads.
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kurisupisuJun. 17, 2012 - 06:45PM JST

Actually it is a fact that the US (and others)) are aiding 'the rebels'' (whoever they are?) by supplying arms to them. There have been reports of thermobaric weapons being used to.murder civilians such as the police.

Military weapons being used to murder civilians is a war crime!

The weapons being used have an origin-it is only a matter of time before the suppliers are discovered.
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kurisupisuJun. 17, 2012 - 07:16PM JST

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9334707/US-holds-high-level-talks-with-Syrian-rebels-seeking-weapons-in-Washington.html

Link to US involvement.....
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kurisupisuJun. 17, 2012 - 07:51PM JST

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9336170/US-enlists-Britains-help-to-stop-ship-carrying-Russian-attack-helicopters-to-Syria.html

Iink to Russian support... X

It seems that the UN is extremely toothless when it's two largest members are squaring off against each in the background.

It just goes to show that the cold war is still in effect....
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SuperLibJun. 17, 2012 - 08:07PM JST

I don't know if it's necessarily a cold war. Personally, I think Iran is playing a bigger part in this than people realize. The West sees an opportunity to weaken on of Tehran's chief allies. Not only that but it might provide some assistance to Lebanon. And, yes, there is a chance to turn one of Russia's allies more towards the West. But the big payoff with be via Iran. More leverage in negotiations through the threat of increased isolation.

In the end the West probably doesn't know what it wants. Same with Israel. No one knows who might come into power so no one has really committed to anything, but no one is going to make life easy for Assad. He dug his own grave and the West is deciding if they want to put him in it or not.