Finally though it is good to see that now they are paying for their own hate filled attitudes by getting a taste of their own medicine. One day again they will be begging America to come to the rescue and after she does, they'll so soon forget and start with their hatefulness against her. Britain cannot help biting the hand that feeds it.
HAHAHA and they say that americans aren't stupid or brainwashed, just the name ''bushlover'' says it all
So willing are Brits to see the "Ugly American" they forget to check the mirror for the "Ugly Brit". This is why they are awash in their own PCness. It counters their past hatefulness. I'm sorry to see that some Brits still are that stupid or brainwashed.
Funny how Americans like bushlover are so quick to insult others but chose not to look in their own backyard. 'None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free'
I tend to agree with Ebudanexicano, though I think I wouldn’t be quite so extreme in the way I would express myself. Really it is true the anti-immigrant feeling throughout Europe is growing & neither the individual EU governments nor the EU itself are helping matters with the introduction of laws that protect immigrants at the expense of the native populations. What we are seeing now is in Britain, but disturbances of this kind are taking place in Germany, France, Spain & Italy. EU populations are moving to the right because they see the right offering them some hope. As for Britain getting pay back for being “hateful”, well that could be said about so many countries that it is meaningless. But then if you have an axe to grind I don’t suppose truth really comes into the “reasoning”.
While I'm proud of British diversity, the absurd political correctness that has seen (for example) the introduction of Sharia Law (which is OPENLY biased against women and rabidly homophobic) into the UK is making many people, from left-wing PC droids, to right-wing nut cases, plus a huge swathe of reasoned thinking people inbetween, question the direction this is all going.
Taiko666 - I'd like an example of Britain introducing Sharia law, its just not the case. The British governments commitment is to allowing Sharia practices as long as they do not break UK law.
The English Defense League are using muslims as a scape goat for the frustrations of many who are having a tough time at home right now. For as long as i can remember there has always been a surge in far right support when times are hard. The English Defense League have used the illconceived and quite rightly denegrated home coming protest as a lever and found a willing audience, unfortunately.
Didn't British voters recently send 2 ultra right wing politicians to the EU parliament to represent their country.Shameful.One day it's oil for terrorists and the next it's back to Cable Street and 1936.
seijichuudo9sha - "Didn't British voters recently send 2 ultra right wing politicians to the EU parliament to represent their country"
British voters in two districts elected two British National Party MEPS to represent their districts in Brussels. While I agree it's dissapointing they were elected in the first place, they do not represent the UK. You need to get some perspective.
Britain is largely ambivalent to European elections and on the last occasion there was a historically low voter turnout. As unpleasant as they are, the BNP are hardly ultra rightwing, with the exception of their racist policies they are, overtly at least, fairly middle of the road and they got in on a tiny vote. But, like the English Defense League, Muslim extremists and you, the BNP do use inflammatory language and cherry pick sound bites for their own ends. With statements like "One day it's oil for terrorists and the next it's back to Cable Street and 1936" and the one above you align yourself with all the mischief makers who want to destabilise politics.
Recent months have shown just how successful these idiots can be at gaining the ear of the ineffectual, the desperate and the dissaffected and its not for the greater good.
Can you blame them really? Sixty-nine years ago some of the young men of Britain (granted, and other commonwealth nations, the Poles, etc) fought in the skies over southern England to prevent invasion by the Germans, only to have the nation otherwise given away through immigration. No wonder the older folks are joining the BNP. They feel betrayed and that their country is no longer their own. I can't say as I blame them. Label it racism of you'd like (athough as someone sensibly pointed out, in the case of the article topic, Islam is not a race but rather a religion) but there is a distinct difference between getting a family or two of immigrants in the neighborhood and having whole areas taken over. Again, call me racist, but how would a Muslim community in - say - Pakistan feel if I and 5,000 of my closest christian relatives and friends suddenly moved into their community? Would we be welcomed? I bet not. And how would any of you feel - living as you likely do in your comfortable and familiar communities feel to be so suddenly and strenuously 'invaded'? I'm not anti-immigration, but uncontrolled immigration is a proven nightmare.
"Nazis were left wing (National Socialists) not right-wing..."
LOL!! Really? Are you saying that because of the "socialists" in the name? Then I suppose you believe that North Korea is actually a "democratic republic."
tigermoth - The UK has had large scale immigration for way more than the last 60 years, largely successfully too. Ghettos are nothing new either. Immigration isnt the issue.
The recent anti-muslim campaign by the English Defense League is an attempt to increase membership and gain influence, they even state its Islam they're against, not other races.
The young men of Britain that fought over the skies of southern England that you mention were fighting for their country and the freedoms and democracy that it still represents today. They had no issues with the many thousands that fled to Britain to escape the nazis, and other despotic regimes since.
The attitudes you talk about come from poverty and lack of opportunity. Using half truths and spinning the image of positive action, the perception that immigrants are to blame is as easy to perpetuate as the notion that the West, and Britain in particular, is to blame for all the problems that exist in the Muslim world but no less wrong. Poverty and frustration are a great breeding ground for hate on all sides. Its that that needs tackling not one group or another.
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manta60 at 02:26 AM JST - 14th September
Finally though it is good to see that now they are paying for their own hate filled attitudes by getting a taste of their own medicine. One day again they will be begging America to come to the rescue and after she does, they'll so soon forget and start with their hatefulness against her. Britain cannot help biting the hand that feeds it.
HAHAHA and they say that americans aren't stupid or brainwashed, just the name ''bushlover'' says it all
bushlover at 02:35 AM JST - 14th September
So willing are Brits to see the "Ugly American" they forget to check the mirror for the "Ugly Brit". This is why they are awash in their own PCness. It counters their past hatefulness. I'm sorry to see that some Brits still are that stupid or brainwashed.
DenDon at 02:43 AM JST - 14th September
dream on sunshine
manta60 at 03:38 AM JST - 14th September
Funny how Americans like bushlover are so quick to insult others but chose not to look in their own backyard. 'None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free'
rajakumar at 03:38 AM JST - 14th September
Shakedown 2009 rallies in UK.
UK is very used to all sorts of rallies since time immemorial.
That is they have those time immemorial laws.
grafton at 05:04 AM JST - 14th September
I tend to agree with Ebudanexicano, though I think I wouldn’t be quite so extreme in the way I would express myself. Really it is true the anti-immigrant feeling throughout Europe is growing & neither the individual EU governments nor the EU itself are helping matters with the introduction of laws that protect immigrants at the expense of the native populations. What we are seeing now is in Britain, but disturbances of this kind are taking place in Germany, France, Spain & Italy. EU populations are moving to the right because they see the right offering them some hope. As for Britain getting pay back for being “hateful”, well that could be said about so many countries that it is meaningless. But then if you have an axe to grind I don’t suppose truth really comes into the “reasoning”.
taiko666 at 01:04 PM JST - 14th September
While I'm proud of British diversity, the absurd political correctness that has seen (for example) the introduction of Sharia Law (which is OPENLY biased against women and rabidly homophobic) into the UK is making many people, from left-wing PC droids, to right-wing nut cases, plus a huge swathe of reasoned thinking people inbetween, question the direction this is all going.
WayneRooney10 at 02:16 PM JST - 14th September
Say no to racism! Get the t-shirt. Be somebody.
dontpanic at 04:52 PM JST - 14th September
Taiko666 - I'd like an example of Britain introducing Sharia law, its just not the case. The British governments commitment is to allowing Sharia practices as long as they do not break UK law.
The English Defense League are using muslims as a scape goat for the frustrations of many who are having a tough time at home right now. For as long as i can remember there has always been a surge in far right support when times are hard. The English Defense League have used the illconceived and quite rightly denegrated home coming protest as a lever and found a willing audience, unfortunately.
seijichuudo9sha at 05:44 PM JST - 14th September
9-11 observances in America were free of violence.But not in the UK.Crazy world.
seijichuudo9sha at 08:20 PM JST - 14th September
Didn't British voters recently send 2 ultra right wing politicians to the EU parliament to represent their country.Shameful.One day it's oil for terrorists and the next it's back to Cable Street and 1936.
dontpanic at 10:56 PM JST - 14th September
seijichuudo9sha - "Didn't British voters recently send 2 ultra right wing politicians to the EU parliament to represent their country"
British voters in two districts elected two British National Party MEPS to represent their districts in Brussels. While I agree it's dissapointing they were elected in the first place, they do not represent the UK. You need to get some perspective.
Britain is largely ambivalent to European elections and on the last occasion there was a historically low voter turnout. As unpleasant as they are, the BNP are hardly ultra rightwing, with the exception of their racist policies they are, overtly at least, fairly middle of the road and they got in on a tiny vote. But, like the English Defense League, Muslim extremists and you, the BNP do use inflammatory language and cherry pick sound bites for their own ends. With statements like "One day it's oil for terrorists and the next it's back to Cable Street and 1936" and the one above you align yourself with all the mischief makers who want to destabilise politics.
Recent months have shown just how successful these idiots can be at gaining the ear of the ineffectual, the desperate and the dissaffected and its not for the greater good.
tigermoth at 01:40 AM JST - 15th September
Can you blame them really? Sixty-nine years ago some of the young men of Britain (granted, and other commonwealth nations, the Poles, etc) fought in the skies over southern England to prevent invasion by the Germans, only to have the nation otherwise given away through immigration. No wonder the older folks are joining the BNP. They feel betrayed and that their country is no longer their own. I can't say as I blame them. Label it racism of you'd like (athough as someone sensibly pointed out, in the case of the article topic, Islam is not a race but rather a religion) but there is a distinct difference between getting a family or two of immigrants in the neighborhood and having whole areas taken over. Again, call me racist, but how would a Muslim community in - say - Pakistan feel if I and 5,000 of my closest christian relatives and friends suddenly moved into their community? Would we be welcomed? I bet not. And how would any of you feel - living as you likely do in your comfortable and familiar communities feel to be so suddenly and strenuously 'invaded'? I'm not anti-immigration, but uncontrolled immigration is a proven nightmare.
Usermane at 08:51 AM JST - 15th September
yabits-
"Nazis were left wing (National Socialists) not right-wing..."
LOL!! Really? Are you saying that because of the "socialists" in the name? Then I suppose you believe that North Korea is actually a "democratic republic."
They were socialists.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/11422/ http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/
Moderator: All readers back on topic please.
dontpanic at 06:44 PM JST - 15th September
tigermoth - The UK has had large scale immigration for way more than the last 60 years, largely successfully too. Ghettos are nothing new either. Immigration isnt the issue.
The recent anti-muslim campaign by the English Defense League is an attempt to increase membership and gain influence, they even state its Islam they're against, not other races.
The young men of Britain that fought over the skies of southern England that you mention were fighting for their country and the freedoms and democracy that it still represents today. They had no issues with the many thousands that fled to Britain to escape the nazis, and other despotic regimes since.
The attitudes you talk about come from poverty and lack of opportunity. Using half truths and spinning the image of positive action, the perception that immigrants are to blame is as easy to perpetuate as the notion that the West, and Britain in particular, is to blame for all the problems that exist in the Muslim world but no less wrong. Poverty and frustration are a great breeding ground for hate on all sides. Its that that needs tackling not one group or another.