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UN official says US breaks rules in torture probe

World Jul. 12, 2011 - 05:37PM JST ( 11 )

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OkinawamikeJul. 13, 2011 - 07:51AM JST

Why does a "Torture Investigator" need access to a US Military member?

I would think there are a few other places he could be looking for victims.
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MolenirJul. 13, 2011 - 08:32AM JST

He's part of the Useless Nations, why wouldn't he?
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lucabrasiJul. 13, 2011 - 08:42AM JST

I would think there are a few other places he could be looking for victims.

So if it's happening in America we should all just forget about it? America's a special case?
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OkinawamikeJul. 13, 2011 - 03:18PM JST

So if it's happening in America we should all just forget about it? America's a special case?

If what is happening in America? Torture of an American service member who violated several UCMJ Articles? Don't think held until trial is torture.

Manning was arrested outside Baghdad on May 26 and is currently in a military prison. This guy is not Manning's lawyer, so he can just piss off.
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gonemadJul. 13, 2011 - 08:07PM JST

Once again the US claiming double standards. If they do not torture, then what is their problem with a routine visit by a UN investigator? Events like this do not only hurt the credibility of the US, but of the entire western world.
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SuperLibJul. 13, 2011 - 10:38PM JST

gonemad: Events like this do not only hurt the credibility of the US, but of the entire western world.

Yeah, because the people who actually use real torture will suddenly be emboldened by a bunch of rich Westerners whining about made-up torture stuff in our own countries.
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Eric SchneiderJul. 14, 2011 - 01:40AM JST

This is the same UN that has North Korea as chairman of a nuclear disarmament committee, right? I don't see double standards, I see grandstanding by a bureaucrat who is trying to a) keep his nice, fat budget and b) trying to deflect attention from the mess in both Argentina and it's ally, Venezuela.
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MolenirJul. 14, 2011 - 07:36AM JST

If they do not torture, then what is their problem with a routine visit by a UN investigator?

He can visit, what he's whining about is unfiltered access. No one but the mans lawyer is entitled to that.
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sfjp330Jul. 14, 2011 - 07:50AM JST

The U.S. government no doubt will want to make a harsh example out of Manning to deter others from daring to do the same, but taking the last full measure of devotion from a man in these circumstances might very well backfire on the government and anger others to rise up and do the same.
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gonemadJul. 15, 2011 - 01:22AM JST

Yeah, because the people who actually use real torture will suddenly be emboldened by a bunch of rich Westerners whining about made-up torture stuff in our own countries.

It will not embolden anyone, but it is jeopardizing all diplomatic efforts to help torture victims in other countries. Human rigths have become a luxury, so why care?

No one but the mans lawyer is entitled to that.

It may be right from a domestic legal point of view. Not sure which UN rules Mendez is talking about, but if such UN rule exists, then the US is bound by international law. Vice versa there is no law that forces the DOD to take such a counterproductive stance.
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MolenirJul. 15, 2011 - 07:25AM JST

Not sure which UN rules Mendez is talking about, but if such UN rule exists, then the US is bound by international law.

Actually, unless its in a treaty, then the US isn't bound by internal UN rules. I don't believe the treaty creating the UN forces the US to be bound by their internal rules.